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The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:36 PM Feb 2019

Bernie Sanders Received Donations from all 50 states within the hour of his 2020 campaign announce

When Senator Bernie Sanders announced his 2020 presidential run on Tuesday, it sparked an immediate wave of donations from across the country.

“I wanted to let the people of the state of Vermont know about this first,” Sanders told Vermont Public Radio this morning. “And what I promise to do is, as I go around the country, is to take the values that all of us in Vermont are proud of—a belief in justice, in community, in grassroots politics, in town meetings—that's what I'm going to carry all over this country."

Shortly after his announcement, his campaign tweeted that “supporters from all 50 states have donated to our unprecedented grassroots campaign.” NBC News political reporter Alex Seitz-Wald tweeted that the campaign confirmed that Sanders had received donations from all 50 states within an hour of his launched 2020 bid.

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-donations-2020-states-election-1335509
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Bernie Sanders Received Donations from all 50 states within the hour of his 2020 campaign announce (Original Post) The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 OP
When do you think he will publicly affirm that he is a Democrat? ehrnst Feb 2019 #1
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #3
It matters if he announces at the time of running per DNC rules and releases FULL taxes like others uponit7771 Feb 2019 #4
*ZERO INTEREST* in knowing how rich Bernie is. The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #9
This is false on its face, tax returns are ... not .... about seeing how rich someone is there are uponit7771 Feb 2019 #13
We already know that he's in the 1%, due to the book royalties ehrnst Feb 2019 #17
You are wrong. MrGrieves Feb 2019 #20
Yeah, that's not what it is about.... NT Adrahil Feb 2019 #25
It doesn't matter what you want.. Cha Feb 2019 #30
It's not a question of being rich, no one cares if he's rich or not. It's a question of.... George II Feb 2019 #37
LOL.. that's not at all what the rule says. honest.abe Feb 2019 #6
He already did. The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #10
Sorry, we need hard proof with this guy. honest.abe Feb 2019 #12
This is false uponit7771 Feb 2019 #14
Can you point to where he "publicly affirmed" he is now a Democrat? ehrnst Feb 2019 #19
Maybe you should try your own Cha Feb 2019 #34
Not necessarily true. He can announce even without complying with the new rules. George II Feb 2019 #35
Below is the complete rule. I saw his announcement video today. He did not comply. George II Feb 2019 #43
No, you don't seem to understand: ehrnst Feb 2019 #11
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Feb 2019 #15
Thank you! R B Garr Feb 2019 #31
Also, can you explain "I'd suggest go find some other avenue to do. Like airplane model-building ehrnst Feb 2019 #23
Boom. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #41
He will affirm it (and then deny it after) frazzled Feb 2019 #7
If Sanders makes it to the general election then, GWC58 Feb 2019 #27
bernie is NOT A DEMOCRAT!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #28
This is a part of how Sanders promotes himself. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #2
Did Sanders plan to take campaign finance last time? brooklynite Feb 2019 #5
I wonder if Kamala Harris did as well? ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #8
Well, to be fair, running and winning as a Democrat, and voting as one ehrnst Feb 2019 #21
"take the values that all of us in Vermont are proud of" honest.abe Feb 2019 #16
All 623,657 of them. That's about 40,000 more than Wyoming... VOX Feb 2019 #22
+1, And only about 200,000 vote for him. That's all R B Garr Feb 2019 #38
When will he be required to explain the political realities R B Garr Feb 2019 #33
Surely, a sign from Gawd that Bernie should ride a golden chariot down Pennsylvania Avenue. VOX Feb 2019 #18
And yet, an hour after his announcement, he is still not a Democrat. PubliusEnigma Feb 2019 #24
And still...he will never win the primary or be president lunamagica Feb 2019 #26
Fool me once ... etc. nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #29
Won't get fooled again. yardwork Feb 2019 #36
Won't get fooled again. nt R B Garr Feb 2019 #39
NOT EVEN ONCE. Cha Feb 2019 #40
I'm guessing a LOT of "it's his turn!!!" posts like this one over the next 72 hours. LanternWaste Feb 2019 #32
You'd think a self-styled "Socialist" Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #42
$1.2M in first 3 hrs Duppers Feb 2019 #44
If I was Putin, Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #45
Does that mean he's finally releasing his donation info to the FEC? KitSileya Feb 2019 #46
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
1. When do you think he will publicly affirm that he is a Democrat?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:52 PM
Feb 2019

Because that's a requirement for getting into the Democratic Primary now.



Response to ehrnst (Reply #1)

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
4. It matters if he announces at the time of running per DNC rules and releases FULL taxes like others
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:01 PM
Feb 2019

... have.

 

The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
9. *ZERO INTEREST* in knowing how rich Bernie is.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:05 PM
Feb 2019

That's what the tax returns are about.

Go find another nit to pick.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
13. This is false on its face, tax returns are ... not .... about seeing how rich someone is there are
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:09 PM
Feb 2019

... more tell tales in regards to taxes returns than just knowing about money.

Go find another nit to pick.


... said those who voted for Red Don.

Not doing the same thing expecting different results, that's foolish
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
17. We already know that he's in the 1%, due to the book royalties
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:14 PM
Feb 2019
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/bernie-sanders-made-over-1-million-last-year-and-has-joined-the-1-percent.html

So, no, it's not how much he and Jane make, but where they have investments and debts is what is most revealing.

For instance, the 2014 returns showed income from Sierra Blanca Nuclear Waste site, and that Jane was sitting on the board.

Those things are all brought into the discussion of a candidate, and are not "nits to pick."

See also: Donald Trump... he's being investigated for his financial past, which he refused to disclose.

You do know now that Hillary released 10 years of her and Bill's financials, right?

Cha

(297,200 posts)
30. It doesn't matter what you want..
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:11 PM
Feb 2019

it matters what is transparent and fair to all the candidates, and the people of the USA.

George II

(67,782 posts)
37. It's not a question of being rich, no one cares if he's rich or not. It's a question of....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Feb 2019

....where the richness came from and where it's invested.

It would probably be a huge disappointment to Sanders supporters if they found out that he might have it all invested in "Wall Street". That's a big reason to want tax returns, to answer that question, "does he?" There are other questions that would be answered with tax returns.

An ancillary question would be, why is he so resistant to releasing the tax returns?

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
12. Sorry, we need hard proof with this guy.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:07 PM
Feb 2019

He's too slippery to assume anything.

That's what my logic tells me.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Can you point to where he "publicly affirmed" he is now a Democrat?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:16 PM
Feb 2019

Links, please.

The other candidates all ran as Democrats in their last run, except Shultz, who has never run, but has publicly affirmed he is a Democrat.

Last he voted in the Senate, he voted as an Independent.

Is that clearer? If not, use your logic....

Or your google.

Not seeing the word Democrat or "Democratic nomination" here:

"I am writing to let you know I have decided to run for president of the United States," Sanders wrote in an e-mail blast to supporters officially announcing his candidacy, "I am asking you to join me today as part of an unprecedented and historic grassroots campaign that will begin with at least a million people from across the country."

or here:

"I wanted to let the people of the state of Vermont know about this first," Sanders said. "And what I promise to do is, as I go around the country, is to take the values that all of us in Vermont are proud of — a belief in justice, in community, in grassroots politics, in town meetings — that's what I'm going to carry all over this country."

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. Below is the complete rule. I saw his announcement video today. He did not comply.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 08:23 PM
Feb 2019

The term “presidential candidate” herein shall mean any person who, as determined by the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee, has accrued delegates in the nominating process and plans to seek the nomination, has established substantial support for their nomination as the Democratic candidate for the Office of the President of the United States, is a bona fide Democrat whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings and/or public statements affirmatively demonstrates that the candidate is faithful to the interests, welfare and success of the Democratic Party of the United States, and will participate in the Convention in good faith. At the time a presidential candidate announces their candidacy publicly, they must publicly affirm that they are a Democrat. Each candidate pursuing the Democratic nomination shall affirm, in writing, to the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee that they:

A. are a member of the Democratic Party;

B. will accept the Democratic nomination; and

C. will run and serve as a member of the Democratic Party.

This requirement of written affirmation shall not supplant any necessary qualifications a candidate must satisfy at the state level, but is in addition to such affirmations required by individual states and territories. The written affirmation shall be done via an approved format by the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. No, you don't seem to understand:
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:06 PM
Feb 2019

He renounced the Democratic Party affiliation after the Convention, and went back to Independent.

He declined the Democratic nomination in VT, and then ran as an Independent.

He must publicly affirm that he is a Democrat, since last he ran for office, he identifies in the Senate not as a Democrat, but as an Independent.

You also seem to be under the mistaken impression that being voted for by Democrats automatically makes you a Democratic candidate.

Perhaps you missed this in the previous post:






 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
23. Also, can you explain "I'd suggest go find some other avenue to do. Like airplane model-building
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:27 PM
Feb 2019

because obviously, politics doesn't match your criteria" is about?

I have no idea what that means.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. He will affirm it (and then deny it after)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:02 PM
Feb 2019

Just as he did last time.

He will also raise a lot of small donations from all 50 states again. It didn't do him much good last primary, and probably will do even less this time around, when he has a dozen other primary challengers, not just one. He can't be the "anti" candidate any more.

But people will keep oohing here about raising money, and aahing about rally crowds. And it will be dispositive of nothing about the primary, because it's just about his core ... not the voting public.

I think Bernie has passed his expiration date with the Democratic voting public. Not sure if he's still safe for consumption.



GWC58

(2,678 posts)
27. If Sanders makes it to the general election then,
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:13 PM
Feb 2019

yes, of course, he has my vote. I will not vote for him in the primary. I’m taking a close look at Amy Klobuchar, myself. 😃

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
2. This is a part of how Sanders promotes himself.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:56 PM
Feb 2019

He is great at driving money into his coffers by talking about money.

He could have come out today and said he needed funding for a recount and money would have flown in from all fifty states.

brooklynite

(94,540 posts)
5. Did Sanders plan to take campaign finance last time?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:01 PM
Feb 2019

That would, to be blunt, be a reason not to support him. Trump definitely won't be, and we should be limited in our campaign spending.

ismnotwasm

(41,978 posts)
8. I wonder if Kamala Harris did as well?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:03 PM
Feb 2019

Or any of the other candidates. I’ve already sent Kamala $27 dollars...

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
21. Well, to be fair, running and winning as a Democrat, and voting as one
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:18 PM
Feb 2019

in the Senate is a public affirmation...

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
16. "take the values that all of us in Vermont are proud of"
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:14 PM
Feb 2019

He's going to make the same mistake he made in 2016. Assuming his version of life in Vermont is the same as the rest of the country. That will not work in the deep south or in many other places.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
22. All 623,657 of them. That's about 40,000 more than Wyoming...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:19 PM
Feb 2019

So the victory will be sweeping, as well as glorious.

R B Garr

(16,953 posts)
33. When will he be required to explain the political realities
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:20 PM
Feb 2019

of why none of his “progressive agenda” is implemented in Vermont —-“values that all of us in Vermont are proud of”.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
18. Surely, a sign from Gawd that Bernie should ride a golden chariot down Pennsylvania Avenue.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:15 PM
Feb 2019

Walking on water is strictly optional now. But flushing is mandatory.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. I'm guessing a LOT of "it's his turn!!!" posts like this one over the next 72 hours.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:17 PM
Feb 2019

I'm guessing a LOT of "it's his turn!!!" posts like this one over the next 72 hours.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
42. You'd think a self-styled "Socialist"
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:52 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Tue Feb 19, 2019, 08:49 PM - Edit history (1)

would be advocating against cash-fueled political campaigns instead of boasting about his daily haul, but that's just me

(I know nobody wants to discuss it, but we as a nation do need to have this conversation, and we needed to have it 20+ years ago)


I'll just leave this here:


 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
45. If I was Putin,
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:52 PM
Feb 2019

I would have my people in the US back him and if he wins the primary, make sure it got leaked that he was Putin's man. It won't be hard to convince the Republicans that he is a Communist.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
46. Does that mean he's finally releasing his donation info to the FEC?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:52 AM
Feb 2019

I recall he let the clock run out on his filings in 2016. I assume he wants to be transparent about finances - economics is his forte, isn't it?

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