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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Not Surprising' But 'So Shameful': Ousted by Ocasio-Cortez, Joe Crowley Heads to K Street Lobbying
After losing a primary race against Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) in what's been called last year's biggest political upset, former Congressman Joe Crowley is headed to one of K Street's largest law and lobbying firmssurprising no one, but garnering a fresh wave of criticism nonetheless.
When Ocasio-Cortez, then a 28-year-old organizer, toppled the 10-term incumbent last year, she had said in her victory speech, "The message that we sent the world tonight is that it is not okay to put donors before your community." Crowley's move to K Street revived critiques of his priorities that tanked his bid to hold on to his U.S. House seat. As one New Yorker put it, "There is a reason that @AOC won my district."
Following months of speculation and reporting that he was being courted by various lobbying groups, news broke Tuesday that Crowleyalongside former Republican Congressman Bill Shuster of Pennsylvaniawas hired by Squire Patton Boggs. Squire Patton Boggs counts among its clients several major corporations and governments across the globe. As Politico noted, "The firm's dozens of lobbying clients include Coca-Cola, Procter & Gamble, and UnitedHealth, according to disclosure filings, as well as the governments of Cameroon, China, Croatia, Qatar, and South Korea, and the Palestinian Authority." The Washington Post's Jeff Stein, citing the Center for Responsive Politics, added Amazon, Samsung, and Royal Dutch Shell to that list.
Avi Asher-Schapiro of the Committee to Protect Journalists highlighted the firm's work for Saud al-Qahtani, an aide to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salmanthe man who is widely believed to have ordered the assassination of Post journalist and U.S. resident Jamal Khashoggi.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/02/19/not-surprising-so-shameful-ousted-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-heads-k-street-lobbying
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Fortunately, Bernie and Elizabeth, both now candidates for the 2020 nomination, are leading the charge on this.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
jalan48
(13,864 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
jalan48
(13,864 posts)R B Garr
(16,953 posts)jalan48
(13,864 posts)R B Garr
(16,953 posts)win from 8 months ago means some big movement for the rest of the country, lol. She won in a changing 80% Democratic district.
jalan48
(13,864 posts)R B Garr
(16,953 posts)big Movement from one persons election, as if being successful in targeting one incumbent Democrat is what you have to cling to. Joe Crowley himself was never the issue,
Katie Hill in Orange County beat an incumbent Republican. Ousting Republicans is much more great.
jalan48
(13,864 posts)R B Garr
(16,953 posts)in something else than beating Republicans. Its pretty obvious where you are coming from.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)R B Garr
(16,953 posts)with typical anti-Democrat brainwashing spin when I can listen to the actual transcript of what Crowley himself said.
You can tell his observation about her gaining traction because she beat him is exactly on point -- look at the continued gloating over it, months later, this thread is just another gloat.
Crowley quote: "I wish her well and I want her to do well on behalf of my constituents and for the country as well"
aidbo
(2,328 posts)And theyre not his constituents anymore.
R B Garr
(16,953 posts)the RT types make a name for themselves with their feigned pseudo/intellectual critiques of Democrats. I never said he was with RT, but I know the type,
They were Crowleys constituents and he said he wished everyone well. WTF is wrong with that?? Its fake news to try and mock and demonize him. The real interview is what he said, not biased distilled fake news.
RandiFan1290
(6,232 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)R B Garr
(16,953 posts)manipulate people with biased screeds from RT types is what is petty. I dont need Joes words filtered by anti-Democrats trying to make a name for themselves by exaggeration and phoniness.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)and a 12% turnout where someone won with 6% of the vote is not "bounced."
Joe has a right to make a living and he doesn't need permission.
He will be back.
theaocp
(4,237 posts)working a non-profit? Your defense of his influence-peddling choice is gross. Nobody forced him to become the enemy. Fuck corporate lobbyists.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)A fellers gotta make a livin
They also had a strategic relationship with trumps consigliere, Michael Cohen. Thats nice...
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)Cutting edge journalism and insightful commentary at its best!
Apollyonus
(812 posts)Apollyonus
(812 posts)KayF
(1,345 posts)lapucelle
(18,252 posts)Funny how the topic didn't come up, given its characterization as "shameful" by Zephyr Teachout on Twitter.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)was on a political talk show and didn't mention he was going to work at a lobbying firm? Quelle Surprise!
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)tonedevil
(3,022 posts)nor paid any attention to Mr. Kornacki up until now so thanks anyway. The hiring was just announced by Squire Patton Boggs today. A new job is something I would be talking about, but then I don't talk on National TV.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)the host chooses the topic and asks related questions. The guest then answers them.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)that's why I mentioned that I don't do so. Thanks for splainin' though.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)I took that to mean that you would ignore the host's questions, change the subject, and start talking about yourself even though that is not what is done on National TV.
I'm glad that you understand how it works, but confused by your assertion that you would do it differently.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)that sweet lobbyist money I would say whatever I had been told to. Apparently Mr. Crowley and I aren't very different in that respect.
What a stunningly revealing thing to say. Thank you for letting the community and the world at large know exactly what you would do for money. Forewarned is forearmed.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Coveting money is often a greater priority than we allow ourselves to realize.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)lapucelle
(18,252 posts)Given this news, I would imagine that Crowley has no plans to run again for his old seat. It will be interesting to see if someone else from the Queens organization will be running in 2020.
oasis
(49,383 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)He has a degree in political science and communications and many years as a Congressman. But he's not supposed to work for a DC law firm (he's not allowed to lobby, by the way, but he can provide advice and counsel to the lawyers and lobbyists) and he's not supposed to go on television as a commentator. I guess he could join a faculty, but faculty positions are few and far between and are filled very far in advance, so he likely wouldn't be able to get a position for the next year or so. He could join a think tank, but there aren't a lot of progressive think tanks, the jobs are few and the progressive organizations don't pay well.
We sometimes go too far with this "how DARE they make a living using their expertise in their field!" pristinity (yes, I know that's not a word - I made it up because it says what I mean).
oasis
(49,383 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Crowley's a private citizen now...
Hell, if this is news then folks would truly be shocked at what some other former high-profile Dem congresscritters are doing right now, if they dared to look...
shanny
(6,709 posts)This is disgusting. And, no, we should not be discounting it because "private citizen now." This is a real example of the pattern of corruption in our system. You are right, Crowley is only one guy and the rot is widespread. We need to fix it, or live with the results. Oh, wait...we've been doing that already. Is it working for us?
jalan48
(13,864 posts)theaocp
(4,237 posts)They actively defend it and even hope he'll run for office again. It's like arguing with table legs.
jalan48
(13,864 posts)theaocp
(4,237 posts)Being in leadership is currently a lot about getting the money. Pelosi is great at that. People fall in line, assuming that's the way of the walk, regardless of the corrupting influence.
jalan48
(13,864 posts)that differentiated us from the Republicans.
theaocp
(4,237 posts)Dems are people, too, and a lot of them will follow where the money leads. Get it out completely. Everything else (MAYBE climate change) is secondary. I say maybe b/c money could still trump efforts to save our planet.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)or are we only interested in cursing the symptoms instead of the disease??
I'm just saying this is BIGGER than just Crowley
shanny
(6,709 posts)Starting somewhere is required, is it not?
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shanny
(6,709 posts)(well also because AOC was a phenomenal candidate)
pecosbob
(7,538 posts)but last time I checked my moral compass, working as a lobbyist was about two steps below selling used cars. In a better world they would not exist.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)And he announced this to his list via email
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)if they pushed out of office before retirement.
theaocp
(4,237 posts)Morbid curiosity aside, there are a myriad of other peoples' future careers more important than any of these reps.
KayF
(1,345 posts)just accept whoever the bosses tell you is going to represent you!
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)in order to "make THEM pay" for broaching the topic of a primary challenge.
I'm not sure who "they" are, and it made very little sense that the politician expected me to pay when the politician was ominously hinting that "they" would be made to pay.
But you know how politicians are: never let an opportunity to collect the cash go to waste.
Mariana
(14,856 posts)to fund their re-election campaigns. I'll wait.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)in order to make anyone thinking of launching a challenge "pay" for that transgression.
So the answer to your question is "every single other politician and or candidate who has ever contacted me via email".
demmiblue
(36,850 posts)spanone
(135,831 posts)EllenJ
(12 posts)I worked for years for a nonprofit and part of my job was lobbying on behalf of low-income and minority communities. I worked with many other people from other nonprofit civil rights organizations who did the same thing. We lobbied for increased stimulus funding, ACA, infrastructure in underserved communities, jobs programs, the extension of the Voting Rights Act, against and for judicial nominees, among other things. Our work was important, meaningful and effective.
One of the concerns I have about lobbying reform and how its presented to the public is that it lumps all lobbying together, gives it all a terrible, sordid reputation based on how big money interests abuse the campaign finance system. If not done right, this reform will decimate the ability for civil rights organizations, environmental groups and other smaller entities that fight for people to seek redress and influence policy and government spending.
When I told people I was a registered lobbyist and they gave me that look like I had just eaten an onion sandwich and then belched in their face, I always added, I use my powers only for good.
spanone
(135,831 posts)The organizations that you work for are not the problem, I agree. They should not be lumped in with corporate lobbying which I believe is
wrong and detrimental to democracy.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Lobbying is fine. In fact, it's a good thing. Lobbying can be anywhere from emailing Congressperson, to signing a petition, to participating in a letter-writing campaign, to visiting their offices or attending a town hall. That's all part of democracy.
It's when people use the campaign finance system to buy greater access and influence that it becomes a problem. Take the big money out of campaign finance and its contamination of lobbying will go down significantly.
I'm glad you used your powers for good.
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