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''Sometimes I think no-one can actually be THAT stupid'' (Original Post) Soph0571 Mar 2019 OP
as dumb as idiot america that cheers this kind of ignorance. KG Mar 2019 #1
They Are Angry McKim Mar 2019 #11
You've got it. He wins on emotions while we are busy fact checking. marylandblue Mar 2019 #13
fuck them, they are angry at seeing women and POC doing well and having to compete with them so they JI7 Mar 2019 #14
Honestly, I don't think that Trump is stupid. watoos Mar 2019 #2
No, Trump actually is stupid, and ignorant. He is, however, cunning. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2019 #3
He isn't that stupid. But he's hoping other people are. n/t CousinIT Mar 2019 #7
I believe he really is now. Who sends lawyers to his schools threatening them is they divulge his LiberalArkie Mar 2019 #17
He's people-smart in some ways. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #8
THERE'S E.Q. (Emotional Quotient), as well as I.Q. maddiemom Mar 2019 #10
Where is Plaid Shirt Guy when you need him?? CDerekGo Mar 2019 #4
I've so often wondered how people with solar power function when the sun goes down Rorey Mar 2019 #5
wELL, SOME ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE... pangaia Mar 2019 #12
Dude has cognitive issues. IluvPitties Mar 2019 #6
This could be posed as a very good question. gordianot Mar 2019 #9
I watched his 2016 deposition for a court case. marylandblue Mar 2019 #15
Is it an act or is it dementia? csziggy Mar 2019 #18
I still think it's an act. His speeches haven't really changed much. marylandblue Mar 2019 #19
His speech patterns are a giveaway. gordianot Mar 2019 #20
Yes, I believe that when he is tried for his crimes, LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #16
So we can't turn things off when the wind IS blowing? Luz Mar 2019 #21
There are millions who are that stupid, unfortunately, for the rest of us. ooky Mar 2019 #22

McKim

(2,412 posts)
11. They Are Angry
Reply to KG (Reply #1)
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:50 AM
Mar 2019

They are angry at an economy and a world that has left them behind. Too much austerity and stagnant wages and cuts to Education have created these gullible angry people. We have to show them that we have something to offer them like hope and a better life. He has offered them anger, justification, glorification of ignorance and above all COMMUNITY! He made them feel important and vindicated in their anger. We must offer more! Please no more put downs of these victims of the Neoliberal Agenda!

JI7

(89,252 posts)
14. fuck them, they are angry at seeing women and POC doing well and having to compete with them so they
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:06 AM
Mar 2019

would rather destroy everything than ever let another black man be president.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. Honestly, I don't think that Trump is stupid.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:44 AM
Mar 2019

He plays to his base who is stupid. Trump, however, is mentally ill. I live among Trumpers in central Pa. and they are zombies who believe his every word, and importantly, the M$M is complicit with Trump, in giving him his platform and making him seem believable.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
17. I believe he really is now. Who sends lawyers to his schools threatening them is they divulge his
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:16 AM
Mar 2019

grades?

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
8. He's people-smart in some ways.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:07 AM
Mar 2019

That's why he's gotten as far as he has in life. He's a conman who accuses others of being conmen. He's a bullshit artist who accuses others of being liars. Donald should never have gotten this far in life, and he never would have if there weren't so many stupid people in the world. But he doesn't have any real, objective knowledge. He's a total idiot when it comes to the kind of knowledge that separates humans from the rest of the primates.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
10. THERE'S E.Q. (Emotional Quotient), as well as I.Q.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:46 AM
Mar 2019

We tend to think of E.Q. as a positive thing, but Trump uses it in a VERY negative way. He's also a master at projection: Anything of which he accuses others, is sure to be of what he,himself, is guilty. Perfect example: his accusations against the Clinton Foundation, versus all that eventually busted the "Trump Foundation."

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
5. I've so often wondered how people with solar power function when the sun goes down
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 08:39 AM
Mar 2019


It'll be so nice to someday (HOPEFULLY!) have a president with functioning brain again.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
12. wELL, SOME ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE...
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:02 AM
Mar 2019

oopps caps lock.

anyway...

anytime the power goes off in my home (all electric) it is NIGHT when it is DARK,, no SUN...

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
9. This could be posed as a very good question.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:31 AM
Mar 2019

What is Donald Trump’s actual cognitive functioning? Based on his seemingly immature speech patterns it should dawn on most people there is something seriously wrong. His actions embracing brutal murderous thugs, constantly lying, denial of the obvious, and projection would make a cognitive evaluation a monumental task. If someday Donald is actually charged or convicted of Federal crimes his behavior is so extreme there could actually be questions of sanity for Donald Trump. Having dealt professionally with people who are mentally ill I can see how his thought processes are different from most people by words and action. It might be questioned some day in a legal setting; is Donald Trump sane?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
15. I watched his 2016 deposition for a court case.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:10 AM
Mar 2019

He was very evasive and appeared ignorant of basic contract law, but spoke in a normal tone with complete sentences. So what you see on TV is an act.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. Is it an act or is it dementia?
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:38 AM
Mar 2019

He reminds me of Ronald Reagan towards the end of his time in the White House. Reagan could get up in front of a crowd and deliver his performance but he was kept out of the public view because he was not truly coherent.

He also reminds me of my mother. Three years ago she could have intelligent conversations. Two years ago she only became animated when talking about the past and only had memories from years and years ago. By last May she really was not able to talk, lost words, and could not respond to simple questions.

Maybe in 2016 Trump could make complete sentences but it's now over two years later and he could have lost that ability - until he gets in front of an adoring crowd when we can put together word salad that gets him a positive response.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
19. I still think it's an act. His speeches haven't really changed much.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:52 AM
Mar 2019

They sound a bit more unhinged but only a bit. He's just gotten better at feeding off the crowd's energy, and he no longer has anyone near him who can offer restraint. He spoke at a fourth grade level in 2016 and still does today. A level probably chosen to reach most of his audience without sounding too childish to them (how he sounds to us doesn't matter).

Also he's learned his crowd will believe anything he says, no matter what. That's why he can now say he has to finish the wall he never started. It's not a delusion. It gives him both an accomplishment and a reason for re-election. He knows what he is saying.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
20. His speech patterns are a giveaway.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:15 AM
Mar 2019

It would be fascinating to see what they are like in a clinical setting. This is his last defense.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
16. Yes, I believe that when he is tried for his crimes,
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:12 AM
Mar 2019

if he lives long enough to be tried, he'll probably get off with an insanity defense. He's obviously in bad health, physically and mentally, so I really don't expect him to live much longer. But if he does live for another ten years or so, his chances of doing any time in prison are pretty low, unfortunately. I wish it were otherwise.

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