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Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:13 PM

Good Question at Quora: Why hasn't Trump gone after Rachel Maddow like he did Mika Brzezinski?

With many good and funny answers.

https://www.quora.com/Why-hasnt-Trump-gone-after-Rachel-Maddow-like-he-did-Mika-Brzezinski

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Reply Good Question at Quora: Why hasn't Trump gone after Rachel Maddow like he did Mika Brzezinski? (Original post)
Kind of Blue Mar 2019 OP
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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:18 PM

1. Someone probably told Trump Rachel Maddow's IQ

That would have intimidated just about any Republican.

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Response to DFW (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:20 PM

3. Ha! One would think the very stable genius would take her

on by now.

Damn coward.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:24 PM

4. I think someone other than he added the "i" in genius. n/t

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Response to DFW (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:27 PM

6. That's good...LOL!

I see what you did there

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:07 PM

13. Shhhh! Don't let on!!

Maybe Trump will read DU tonight, and I want to keep him guessing.

Hmmmm, well, on second thought.....never mind!

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Response to DFW (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:15 PM

16. HA! Not letting on would be a hard one.

Whew!

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #16)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:16 PM

17. Well, at least....

Don't go posting it on an open internet board or anything like that............

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Response to DFW (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:22 PM

19. OMG, you're killing me

Okay. Okay. I won't post about it at Quora, too.

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Response to DFW (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:30 PM

8. Because she would hand him his ass. On national television.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:32 PM

9. As well as all sorts of other body parts he would rather not have exposed on TV. n/t

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Response to DFW (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:24 PM

21. STOP...

I can't handle it

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:25 PM

22. It's 1:25 AM here and I have to be on my way to work by 6:15 tomorrow, er, this morning

So you get your wish!

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Response to DFW (Reply #22)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:32 PM

24. I have to get back to work right now!

So Thanks because I cannot stop myself from good slams on 45.
Good night, DFW. Thanks for the belly rolls

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 06:41 PM

52. Lucky you, I didn't have time today.

A huge wind storm rolled through our part of Germany yesterday and this morning and half the trains were canceled. I didn't get home until late, and I have to be in Sprout City tomorrow morning, back here tomorrow night, and then in Spain (Catalunya, if you wanna get technical) 24 hours after that.

There is no rest for the weary!

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Response to DFW (Reply #52)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 09:45 PM

62. Oh, wow! And I thought I had it bad today.

But you're hitting parts of Europe, Germany and Spain, where I have family members. So I'm going to ask them to join me tonight in wishing you safe journeys, DFW. I'm imagining you successfully completing all of your tasks and yet refreshed when you get back home. Same from Köln and Valencia coming at you

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #62)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:43 AM

66. I'm in Koeln a lot

I haven't been to Valencia since 1969 (!!). I guess a return visit is overdue.

I picked up a nasty cold yesterday from having to wait outside in the cold wind forever for trains that never came. I have to fly down to Barcelona this afternoon, but my ears are clear, so it should be OK. The only downside is that my wife, who usually comes with me on this annual trip, can't make it this year, so it will be a little lonelier than usual.

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Response to DFW (Reply #66)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:38 AM

69. I do hope that you recover soon!

Traveling can be a lot of fun but not that easy. I frequently caught colds and suffered mild thrombosis especially from long flights. Always had to allow at least a few days to recover.

Yeah, my first trips were alone and they got progressively lonelier, until friends and then my sister joined in. Luckily, my husband is a military brat who's also done with traveling. But still on our bucket list is New Orleans if we could ever summon the will to pack

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #69)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:39 PM

72. With me it's just fatigue and worn-down resistance

This happens usually every February/March and October/November, which are my most work-intensive months.

Next month, I have to go over to the States for 2 weeks, less than 2 weeks after coming back, I booked a two.day working trip to Porto in Portugal. We've never been to Porto, and we'll have a day to explore the place.

I'm in Barcelona now, hoping my cough will calm down enough to let me sleep. I haven't been to New Orleans since 1981. I'll bet the food is still good!

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:11 PM

35. +100,000!

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:19 PM

2. Three women hasn't attacked that much

Nancy, Rachel and Kamala. Why?

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Response to RandySF (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:25 PM

5. I know! Nancy has slammed his manhood,

called his wall beaded curtains or something while Harris has called him a full-on racist and attacked his henchmen.

I think he's the typical predator who knows who to pick on.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:23 PM

20. I don't think he's mentioned AOC, either

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Response to RandySF (Reply #20)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:28 PM

23. I was thinking the same thing but needed to check

it first. But then again, why, there's no way it wouldn't be all over the place by now. AOC came for his daughter and still nothing.

And I noticed absolutely zilch about Rep. Waters recently.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:39 PM

25. He's attacked Maxine Waters many times

Calling her “low IQ”.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #25)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:43 PM

26. Yes, indeed! But I haven't heard anything recently.

Maybe she's an easy target for his base to grasp and he doesn't need to anymore. But Rep. Waters as the ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee might give him pause.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:27 PM

7. Their individual intellect

each of them, is exponentially greater than his and he's probably been told that he'd be pantsed in less than the first second by any one of them. He has tried to tangle with Nancy and it didn't go well for him, she reamed him on teevee when he was trying to set her up for embarrassment.

He's starting to figure out that the women he doesn't pay off are not going to fold in his favor.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:37 PM

10. No one takes on Rachel Maddow... Have you noticed that? No One...

 

She's one of a kind.

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Response to PeeJ52 (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:42 PM

11. Indeed, I have! As one Quora poster said, she's a born teacher

and I add now that people better come correct if and when they come for her.
Guess I better not hold my breath for that to happen any time soon.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:31 AM

41. "Born teacher." May be something here. How many

of these swamp creatures would want her team putting together one of their lengthy history lessons culminating in in-depth evaluation of their place in history?

As for Trump, he may recoil at the very thought of her. With his inability to concentrate, school was probably mostly 16 years of painful aversion conditioning, to the point of traumatic. PTSD,
post-traumatic schooling disorder, with seeing Rachel bringing back that cold, sick feeling?
Her endless repetitions might only intensify the flashbacks.

Whatever. Hard to imagine he didn't get bored and fall hopelessly behind, lost in a forest of somewhat complex sentences, in the first 3 minutes of any segment he tried to watch.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #41)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 11:12 PM

63. Too funny! But honest to goodness,

to me, they revere that place in history. As I heard Ann Coulter say a few months ago, "He is who we've been waiting for. Don't you get it," she recalled saying to one of her friends who was appalled by 45's ascending in the republican primaries. And then she actually cackled in ecstasy listing what he would do and the damage that was coming. She said her friend replied, "Yeah, I don't like him but he will do everything that we want."

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:47 PM

12. My guess is Steve Bannon warned Chump not to go after Rachel

Bannon has said many times that Rachel is badass, and he knows she'd tear Chump to pieces. It's likely Hannity told Chump the same thing. Come to think of it, Roger Ailes probably warned him too.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:10 PM

14. Thanks, I never knew that of Bannon!

I have no doubt now that that's their general consensus. I can imagine Maddow going more relentlessly after him than ever before if he ever gave her any reason on Twitter to do so. Yeah, they're not that stupid.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 03:41 AM

39. If he spoke her name his nagar would go check her to troll her

And they would be exposed to the truth, and evaporate.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:12 PM

15. Has he targeted MSNBC hosts other than Mika?

 

I feel like he prefers bitching about CNN anchors.

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Response to liberalnarb (Reply #15)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:20 PM

18. Well, there was this one about MSNBC before the elections

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Response to liberalnarb (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:25 AM

40. He has taken kicks at Lawrence O'Brien, can't remember what they were.

Probably something along the line of "no talent" or something.

Is there ANYONE he doesn't hate?

He has turned on all kinds of people he praised a short time before he attacked them.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #40)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:34 AM

43. Hasn't gone after Malcolm Nance either nt

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:48 PM

27. Doesn't wish to raise her profile?

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Response to California_Republic (Reply #27)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:54 PM

28. Agreed, but we know and he knows she doesn't need him

for that. She just about embodies everything his base detests. She's red meat to them so it's curious that he's never even tried, as far as I know.

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Response to California_Republic (Reply #27)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:52 PM

38. This is close, all the others he has shown he doesn't care about

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:57 PM

29. Probably it's

bedtime for Donnie when Rachel comes on.

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Response to obnoxiousdrunk (Reply #29)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:01 PM

32. LOL! Or he's watching comforting Hannity during

that time slot knowing that nasty Rachel is talking about him.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:59 PM

30. She's not part of the elite group Trump secretly clamors for approval from.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #30)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:07 PM

33. Yeah, but 45 Needs The Other to survive.

He holds on, even back to the Central Park Five that he'll never agree are innocent though DNA exonerated them. Come to think of it, none of his talking heads have gone after her either.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #33)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:13 PM

36. He desperately wants approval from the NY-DC centrist intellectual set, i.e. people like Mika.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #36)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:23 PM

37. Forgive me, but I've really been unaware of this.

And if I'm missing something then 45 is delusional on another dimension of insanity. I just don't see this working out for him especially with DINOs, if I can call her that, Brzezinski who really worked hard, IMHO, to make him acceptable.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:01 PM

31. Maybe he knows he's outmatched.




But most likely one of his flunkies had to tell him.
He's not bright enough to know this on his own.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #31)

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:09 PM

34. For damn sure!

And I suspect many, many, many flunkies have to hold him down.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:45 AM

42. He's probably never met her, so to him, she doesn't even exist.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #42)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:31 PM

53. I wish I could believe that. Found the article

from last month about the 567 people, places 45 has insulted, It is long and would be hilarious if isn't for the thick divisions in this country that he's master of exploiting. My God, seeing the insults in total is breathtaking and not one on Maddow.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 06:40 AM

44. My guess is that Roger Ailes told him not to take Rachel on. Ailes and Rachel were friends.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #44)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:36 PM

54. Had no idea that Maddow and Ailes were friends.

FakeNoose mentioned that Bannon spoke of her many times as a badass and so you two makes the best sense, IMHO.

But eww, come to think of it, Ailes and Rachel were friends. What? Got to dig into that a little more. Politics and strange bedfellows and all that.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #54)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:39 PM

64. Not from an ideological point of view, but she said she got great help from him, and he even told

her that he wanted to get her under contract at Fox, to silence her.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #64)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:13 AM

67. Got it and thanks for this.

Went searching a bit more and found this in a Rolling Stone interview https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/rachel-maddow-the-rolling-stone-interview-200759/

You had a collegial relationship with Roger Ailes, who helped create this toxic political environment we’re in. What made you seek him out?
I wasn’t seeking help from him on how to “create a toxic political environment,” I was looking for help on my camera angles! But I don’t want to talk about the technical advice he gave me, because I consider it to be both a gift and also proprietary – like, I use it, I don’t want anybody else to use it. It was a nice thing that he did for me, and it’s been very valuable – it helped me get an advantage over my competitors.

Was it hard for you to reconcile the Ailes you knew with the Ailes who was accused of serial sexual harassment?
It was just never my experience of him. I knew him in a very specific context. I’ve never been in his office. I’ve never seen him interact with his staff. I only ever saw him in public. We’d meet and have breakfast. I’m horrified by the allegations against him, and I am appreciative of how serious Fox must have found them to be in order to fire him. But I didn’t know anything about it. I was never in touch with Roger after those allegations became public.

Did you ever try?
It’s funny, the last time that we had any communication was within 48 hours of that story breaking with the allegations. I’d sent him a note saying that I wanted to see him. Nothing urgent, just let’s put a date on the calendar. After the story broke, I remember thinking, “I wonder if he’ll ask me to vouch for him or something.” But I never heard from him again.

Your not having any idea is a bit hard to swallow, when there were stories for years about how he dealt with women. Unless he treated you more like a guy?
Yeah, I’m not that female. I've been an out lesbian since I was a teenager. I look like a dude. I’m totally comfortable with that. I am not trying to be on TV because I like the way I look on TV or because I love the glamour.


Perhaps her sexuality in the last bit of the excerpt might be another reason for the administration's hands-off approach, they just don't know how to handle a PhD Rhodes Scholar, good-natured out lesbian political commentator who appears every day of the week; in re-runs on the weekend.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #67)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:11 PM

70. Perhaps, but my thought is that Ailes warned Trump off trying to take her on. It's distinctly off

that he hasn't tried, apart from the guffawing over her getting (being supplied with ) Trump's 2005 tax returns.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 07:38 AM

45. He might not even know she exists. I doubt he watches MSNBC

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Response to Takket (Reply #45)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:44 PM

55. Yeah, I doubt that he watches MSNBC, too, Takket.

But a list of a ton of people and places 45 has insulted includes people I am sure he's never met nor have spoken about him to the extent of Maddow, who he's got to know trounces his henchman Hannity in ratings during the same time slot.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 07:54 AM

46. I think this is it. Trump can't understand what she says....

"Maddow is extremely articulate, highly intelligent and provides compelling arguments and conclusions… , as such… she is so far out of Trump’s 4th grade conversational skills and outside of his comprehension."

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #46)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:52 PM

56. But those are the virtues, I think, he has to attack.

Maddow should be irresistible. So far, I'm thinking Roger Ailes friendly with her and Bannon warning him to lay off her are enough to never mention her.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 07:56 AM

47. Can you imagine the delight Rachel would take in digging deep into a Trump...

... attack on her? It would be SO MUCH FUN TO WATCH!!!!

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #47)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:55 PM

57. I know it would be deeply satisfying

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I mean to the bone. It would feel like love

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 07:57 AM

48. Rachel was never a Trump sycophant

 

who wanted a job in his administration.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #48)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 09:20 PM

58. I'm not sure what to make of that, Trumpocalypse.

I'm trying to imagine someone else in the media who has relentlessly gone after him, clearly would never have anything to do with his evil administration that he has not attacked. Wait now, maybe Joy Reid but then again, he sent Junior to do dirty work on her.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:01 AM

49. May I make an observation that is totally unworthy of DU's consideration.... still....

Rachel.... is not attractive (she never claimed to be);


What??? Every time I watch Rachel I'm struck by how easy she is to look at (74 year old hetero woman here, nothing extra implied). I love her quirky smile. I'm relieved she doesn't have a long loose hairdo. And she's just (forgive me) pretty!!

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #49)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 09:24 PM

59. What, who said that?

I know what you mean. I think she's pretty cute, too, LAS14. A natural beauty who doesn't need much if any make-up at all.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:07 AM

50. I had to stop reading the answers when I got to this...

"Tucker Carlson on Fox, who may be nearly as brilliant as Maddow..."

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #50)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 09:29 PM

60. WTF? is right.

I can't begin to imagine how that person even thinks to... forget it, my head just exploded.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 10:24 AM

51. Rachel seldom mentions trump by name. Yes she talks about

him a lot but she seldom names him. He is only interested in those parts of the world where his name is frequently mentioned. The rest of the world doesn't exist for him.

If we were smart, we would all use that like Rachel has.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #51)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 09:31 PM

61. Good point! I cannot stand writing that name

let alone speak it. 45 is all I can manage besides outright profanity.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:45 PM

65. Would you rather ? with Rachel

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #65)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:19 AM

68. Fun one. Thanks, OnDoutside!

You've helped me with excellent info, from serious to light-hearted

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Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:25 PM

71. Mika and Joe

Were Trump's friends. He knows them personally. I doubt he even knows who Rachel Maddow is.

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