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So has Pelosi decided Trump is above the law (i.e. he is king)? (Original Post) triron Mar 2019 OP
So some prefer to take exactly what Pelosi said out of context hmmmmmmmmmm still_one Mar 2019 #1
Pelosi neither implied nor said anything of the sort. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #2
This year's Thanksgiving Turkey isn't on the table, either. LuvLoogie Mar 2019 #18
No, it is in the White House. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #19
Are people WILLFULLY leftynyc Mar 2019 #3
No. Demit Mar 2019 #4
That's why I am for impeachment The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #5
They would wear it like a badge of courage radical noodle Mar 2019 #20
Oh my matt819 Mar 2019 #6
+1 rusty quoin Mar 2019 #16
No RandySF Mar 2019 #7
Dinner is not on the table. iscooterliberally Mar 2019 #8
Oh for gods sake. ismnotwasm Mar 2019 #9
No. That is essentially what she said, I.e., KPN Mar 2019 #10
Want 4 more years of Trump? Impeach him redstateblues Mar 2019 #11
I stand with Pelosi. She seeks to preserve the rule of law with oasis Mar 2019 #12
This makes Abramson look rather foolish. NT WeekiWater Mar 2019 #13
Practically speaking.. Wouldn't it take about two years and a billion dollars to impeach. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #14
Lots of stupid comments about an off the cuff remark YessirAtsaFact Mar 2019 #15
Pelosi is doing the right thing. NanceGreggs Mar 2019 #17

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Pelosi neither implied nor said anything of the sort.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:43 PM
Mar 2019

She said that it was not on the table.

She did not say that it would never be on the table.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
4. No.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:44 PM
Mar 2019

She knows (unlike Seth Abramson, evidently) that convicting Trump can only happen in the Senate.

 

The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
5. That's why I am for impeachment
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:50 PM
Mar 2019

That is, to me, a vote of no-confidence from the People of the United States.

The 1% in the Senate can do whatever obstruction they care about, because they have a black mark tattooed on their foreheads - Trump Lovers.

radical noodle

(8,008 posts)
20. They would wear it like a badge of courage
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:20 PM
Mar 2019

I don't remember Democrats liking Clinton any less. His approval was high when he left office after his full 2 terms in office.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
6. Oh my
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:50 PM
Mar 2019

Look, I'd love the see trump impeached and then convicted.

Problem 1: He'd be impeached. He wouldn't be convicted. Exercise in futility.

Problem 2: In the polarized environment we're in, the RW will characterize the impeachment as a coup attempt. That's not how it should be, but it is. Exercise in futility.

Maybe Pelosi knows something about Mueller's report, upcoming indictments.

Maybe she takes the high road now only to apply the thumbscrews later in various negotiations with the republicans and trump.

Maybe she takes the high road now and changes course when circumstances change.

This is politics as blood sport, and Pelosi seems to have a pretty good grasp on things.

iscooterliberally

(2,861 posts)
8. Dinner is not on the table.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:52 PM
Mar 2019

I have to go home and make dinner before I can put it on the table. I'm sure Nancy Pelosi will let us know when we're all ready to chow down on some impeachment cobbler.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
10. No. That is essentially what she said, I.e.,
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:52 PM
Mar 2019

no impeachment because it would be better for the country if he was removed via the ballot box. As the clock ticks down on 2020, it’s more and more likely there will not be an impeachment vote by Congress.

LakeArenal

(28,829 posts)
14. Practically speaking.. Wouldn't it take about two years and a billion dollars to impeach.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:18 PM
Mar 2019

Wouldn't we have the impeachment vote in the senate near the election?

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
15. Lots of stupid comments about an off the cuff remark
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:18 PM
Mar 2019

Pelosi hasn’t changed anything. The investigations into Trump/Russia/Corruption will continue and once there is enough evidence available to the public, impeachment becomes viable because public pressure on GOP Senators is the only way to get them to vote for conviction

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
17. Pelosi is doing the right thing.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:37 PM
Mar 2019

As things stand right now, there aren’t the votes in the Republican-held senate to convict.

Pursuing impeachment that is 100% guaranteed to fail would hand Trump and his enablers the PR jewel of the century – he’d declare that the failure to impeach means he has been “exonerated” of any wrongdoing, and his idiot ‘base’ would buy every word of it.

What that would mean is that when Mueller’s findings are revealed, they will not have the impact they otherwise might have on Republican voters. Believing that Trump has – as he will tell them repeatedly – been found completely guiltless, they will view Mueller’s findings as having been fabricated in an attempt to frame their innocent “pResident”.

Remember one thing: Pelosi and other high-ranking Dems know things we don’t. A lot of them know what Mueller will uncover, and how devastating it will be.

So the best course of action now is to let Mueller, who's already doing the heavy lifting, finish his job.

Pelosi didn’t say impeachment is off the table forever – only for now, unless evidence comes forward that will be so compelling, even the Republicans will be left with no choice. And Pelosi knows Mueller has that evidence.

Besides, letting Trump believe that impeachment is no longer a threat means he’ll let his guard down – something that’s always to our advantage.

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