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marble falls

(57,080 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:37 PM Mar 2019

Old Rape Kits Finally Got Tested. 64 Attackers Were Convicted.

Last edited Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Old Rape Kits Finally Got Tested. 64 Attackers Were Convicted.

The Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., committed $38 million in forfeiture money in 2015 to help other jurisdictions test thousands of backlogged rape kits.CreditJeenah Moon/Reuters

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/nyregion/rape-kit-tests.html

By Ali Watkins

March 12, 2019


By February 2017, Maisha Sudbeck had made peace with the idea she would never get justice. It had been five years since she was raped in Tucson by a man she had met online. The police had brushed the case off as a he-said-she-said standoff. For years, her rape evidence kit had sat untested. With two children and a new marriage, she had moved on with her life.



The detective said a grant from the Manhattan district attorney’s office had helped the Tucson authorities clear a backlog of untested rape kits, which preserve the DNA evidence left by an attacker. After five years, Ms. Sudbeck’s kit had finally been tested, the detective said. And the police had found a match in a database of people with criminal records: a man named Nathan Loebe.

“My chapter was reopened,” Ms. Sudbeck said. “Having my kit finally tested was a catalyst for hope.”

In February, Mr. Loebe was convicted of sexually assaulting Ms. Sudbeck and six other women. Ms. Sudbeck testified against him at trial.



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Old Rape Kits Finally Got Tested. 64 Attackers Were Convicted. (Original Post) marble falls Mar 2019 OP
This issue makes me see red. genxlib Mar 2019 #1
It's a national scandal. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #2
Do they routinely test for DNA in murder cases? If so they should do so in all rape cases, too. Liberty Belle Mar 2019 #6
Note: James48 Mar 2019 #8
Should go without saying. However, if... Pacifist Patriot Mar 2019 #24
It is sex discrimination. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #12
Thank you four your aloha. Just to note that women aren't the only rape victims mahina Mar 2019 #27
"Old Rape Kits Finally Got Tested." mitch96 Mar 2019 #3
I wonder about that, too. Maybe the Kochs would like to spend some conscience money. marble falls Mar 2019 #9
I wonder how many of those rapists committed additional rapes in the interim. suffragette Mar 2019 #4
Plenty. marble falls Mar 2019 #10
Exactly. This needs to be taken to a federal level in some way. This evidence MUST be tested!! oldsoftie Mar 2019 #15
The Fed put $108M into the pot, too. marble falls Mar 2019 #16
Good. Thats $432 per kit for 250k tests. That should be enough to put a dent in it. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #20
At the least it will dent it. But as wise men used to say, "Justice delayed is justice denied". marble falls Mar 2019 #21
Yes, too many. And too many victims who would not have been attacked if these had been processed suffragette Mar 2019 #18
You'd think if two average folks like you and I can figure that out the authorities could, too ... marble falls Mar 2019 #22
Yeah, you'd think so. Agree as well about the misplaced priorities. suffragette Mar 2019 #23
About 250,000 kits remain untested across the country??? PatSeg Mar 2019 #5
Six years ago it was 400,000. marble falls Mar 2019 #11
About 9,200 of those matched with DNA profiles in the system mercuryblues Mar 2019 #7
We have the same shit here... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #13
Victims of serial rapists should sue TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #14
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2019 #17
Amazing link is the story of my friend..22 years later her rape kit brings results likesmountains 52 Mar 2019 #19
Thank you for posting this!!! ... marble falls Mar 2019 #26
kick -- national disgrace needs more visibility Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #25
And did you notice this? MyOwnPeace Mar 2019 #28
Simple choice for Trump, he really, really wants that wall. marble falls Mar 2019 #29

genxlib

(5,525 posts)
1. This issue makes me see red.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:56 PM
Mar 2019

Even as a male, this pisses me off. I can't even imagine how it makes women feel. What a fucked up disrespectful way to treat victims of such a horrible crime.

I am really glad that we are making progress working through the backlog. It is just a disgrace that it ever came to this.

Someday we will get caught up. And some enterprising young women will do a PhD thesis on the data. They will surely find that this neglect led to 1000's of rapist running free for years creating new victims along the way. It will be a case of national shame.

We need to just bite the bullet and fund all of them. Now! Before another single woman is needlessly raped by someone who should already be behind bars.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
6. Do they routinely test for DNA in murder cases? If so they should do so in all rape cases, too.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:21 PM
Mar 2019

Otherwise this is just sex discrimination.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
24. Should go without saying. However, if...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:48 AM
Mar 2019

men were raped at a proportion equal to women, I'd be willing to bet the backlog on rape kits wouldn't be nearly as bad.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. It is sex discrimination.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:45 PM
Mar 2019

"“I believe fundamentally there was a gender bias at issue,” Mr. Vance said Tuesday, when asked about the backlog. “A crime mostly involving women was simply not viewed as important to solve.”

mahina

(17,651 posts)
27. Thank you four your aloha. Just to note that women aren't the only rape victims
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:10 PM
Mar 2019

Justice for all.
It seems crazy to take such dismissive liberties with people in such terrible distress. I’m hopeful.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
3. "Old Rape Kits Finally Got Tested."
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:02 PM
Mar 2019

I would have been nice if one of these law and order mulit millionairs cough up the money to test ALL rape kits.. Hello Bezos? Gates? Buffet?Zuckerberg? Bloomberg??
I don't think any staunch wealthy conservatives would throw a few bucks in this direction..
m

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
15. Exactly. This needs to be taken to a federal level in some way. This evidence MUST be tested!!
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:16 PM
Mar 2019

There is NO excuse for waiting. Put it to a vote for money dedicated to only this and i'd bet it would pass OVERWHELMINGLY

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
18. Yes, too many. And too many victims who would not have been attacked if these had been processed
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:30 PM
Mar 2019

promptly, as they should be.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
22. You'd think if two average folks like you and I can figure that out the authorities could, too ...
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:46 PM
Mar 2019

how many billion do police forces all across the county spend on training for the military crap they get? Does Mayberry need a personnel carrier, machine guns, and all the uniforms, helmets ... doesn't it look weird to you when you see militarized cops jumping out of a military vehicle in jump pants? Wouldn't it make more sense to find funds to process evidence?

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
5. About 250,000 kits remain untested across the country???
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:11 PM
Mar 2019

This is outrageous, especially seeing how many attackers were arrested and convicted using the results of rape kits.

It is like rape isn't considered a real crime to some people.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
7. About 9,200 of those matched with DNA profiles in the system
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:27 PM
Mar 2019

About 9,200 of those matched with DNA profiles in the system, providing new leads and potential evidence.

Detroit's recent discovery of more than 800 serial rapists underscores the national problem of rape kit backlogs—and how ignored evidence leaves serial predators free to attack again

snip>
The goal is to stop serial rapists, according to End the Backlog, which said that the testing of backlogged rape kits in Detroit, Cleveland and Memphis found almost 1,300 serial offenders who committed crimes in at least 40 states. And researchers at Case Western Reserve University last year studied backlogged kits in Ohio and found over half the sexual assaults were connected to serial attackers, according to the organization.

https://www.newsweek.com/rape-kit-untested-sexual-assault-serial-rapist-detroit-prosecutor-nation-752440


A national disgrace is right.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
14. Victims of serial rapists should sue
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:58 PM
Mar 2019

Hundreds, if not thousands, of rapists are walking free and raping additional victims because of untested rape kits. If I was one of those victims of entirely PREVENTABLE rapes, I would sue those counties so fast their heads would spin off. It should not be OPTIONAL to process rape evidence.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
26. Thank you for posting this!!! ...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:23 PM
Mar 2019

Most important paragraph ...

Christensen explained during the trial the reasons police gave in the past for not sending the kits to the lab. Sometimes detectives suspected the case couldn’t be prosecuted or a victim’s participation wasn’t assured, he said. Sometimes the lab was busy with other crime analysis or a victim wasn’t believed because of her lifestyle, drug use or uneven memory.

Way too angry to say the obvious in a civil voice. This what happens when cops go for easy conviction numbers over justice.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
28. And did you notice this?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:16 PM
Mar 2019
Vice President Joe Biden announced a parallel federal program the same day.

My guess IQ45 won't be adding any $$$$ to that program - too many of his buddies might get caught up in the evidence (if not himself!).

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