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Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:08 AM

I laugh when pundits (mostly on the right) say the Dems will have a unity problem in 2020

The single-biggest unifying force in America is Donald Trump.

His mere presence got Democrats to turn out in record-breaking droves for a midterm election - something Democrats have historically not done.


It doesn't matter if we have 1 candidate, 2 candidates, 10 candidates, or a hundred candidates.

In the end, Democrats (and most independents) will vote for a Tree Stump for President if it has a (D) next to it in 2020.

The biggest Presidential vote share by a Democrat in the past 55 years came in 2008, when Obama got 54% of the vote. And that came after one of the closest and most divided and contentious Democratic primaries ever.

But Democrats had a singular unifying entity - the Bush/Cheney administration.

Barring a strong third-party run by someone that splits the anti-Trump vote, the Democratic candidate will win..... whoever he or she may be.

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Reply I laugh when pundits (mostly on the right) say the Dems will have a unity problem in 2020 (Original post)
scheming daemons Mar 2019 OP
redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #1
scheming daemons Mar 2019 #2
redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #3
Andy823 Mar 2019 #5
zipplewrath Mar 2019 #6
Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #8
LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #10
zipplewrath Mar 2019 #4
ancianita Mar 2019 #7
lame54 Mar 2019 #9
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #11

Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:39 AM

1. I thought that in 16 as well, and look what happened to us.

We should not say "never", if one candidates supporters take their toys and go home because their candidate did not win, or the candidate chosen did not pass the "progressive test" then we are in for a rough 2020.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:40 AM

2. Democrats didn't have a unifying factor of a abhorrent Presidency in 2016


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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:54 AM

3. We allowed one of our candidates to split the party, that is what happened.

I don't think hatred of Trump is enough, it might be, but I would rather be safe than sorry. Our party is truly splitting in two pieces, so are independents. We had better hike up our pants and get this done this time.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:12 AM

5. One thing to remember

46% of registered voters "sat home" and did not vote! That is not going to happen in 2020.

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:17 AM

6. How many will?

What are you predicting? I'd bet that number is still in the 40's.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:42 PM

8. It would be amazing if 60% voted

I can't remember a percentage like that. It's always in the 50s except 1996 which dropped to 49%.

2016 turnout wasn't bad except the uptick was among whites while we lost some numbers from our key demographics. I'll sign up for 58% turnout right now.

BTW, in reference to the OP, Obama did not receive 54% in 2008. He was a shade below 53% and then a shade above 51% in 2012.

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:26 PM

10. I think the number will increase in 2020. But for who?

I think there is a real danger that, along with an increase of fake news sites i hear going up, the new ownership of local stations by the Sinclair group, along with the dominance of Clear Channel's lineup of RW hate radio shows, that there will go out a huge rallying cry that evil Deep State Socialists are out to destroy Donald Trump, their last best great white hope.

I think it will be close even if we can get out more voters for our side.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:04 AM

4. Spot on

I think there could be a trickle down to the senate races too. It could be our best year in many ways. It's just a matter of the distribution. Only so much voting in California does you any good. 2016 had alot of votes that "didn't matter" because it was votes in WI, MI, and PA that were needed.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:29 PM

7. The public will look at their best option and see that Dems are smarter and more united than ever.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:44 PM

9. We are his anti-base

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:50 AM

11. Yes, now is the time for vigorous debate on policy & candidates. Unite 2020 late spring. . . . nt

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