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BloombergThe international buyer has basically gone away over the past two years, said real estate broker Martin Eiden at Compass, who sells about $50 million of residential property a year. Theres only so much that people will take -- theyll either go somewhere else or theyll just get a hotel room.
The proposed tax would apply to properties above $5 million owned by non-residents. Governor Andrew Cuomo says the state needs it to pay for transit fixes. Mayor Bill de Blasio says the rich should pay more, especially those who pay no income taxes while full-time residents bear the costs of services that make New York City so attractive to foreigners and out-of-staters.
The tax may slow sales at the upper end of New Yorks housing market, but it could also bring benefits that go beyond fixing the subway, including encouraging developers to focus on units that are more affordable to permanent residents, said Moses Gates, a vice president at the Regional Plan Association. In the long run, everyones property values benefit from safety, security and cultural amenities funded by full-time residents.
DBoon
(22,395 posts)We are fighting back
Lindsay
(3,276 posts)They only call it warfare when we fight back.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)are the ones who directly make commissions off of sales to them. I am not troubled over a possible slow down in the sale of 5 million dollar plus residential units to part time out of state and/or foreign residents. I am troubled over the lack of affordable rental full time housing units.
emulatorloo
(44,175 posts)reasonabletexan
(40 posts)It is progressive capitalism!
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)Thanks.
Wounded Bear
(58,698 posts)if NYC slows down the market? I mean, one can only sell so many paintings at inflated prices, you know.
SWBTATTReg
(22,156 posts)residents of NYC don't want such people like this in their city? Also, I wonder if they'll beef up current enforcement efforts since it looks like rump and ilk engaged in fraud just about everywhere, including NYC?
2naSalit
(86,767 posts)maxsolomon
(33,384 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)You know thats where all the cool cats wanna live!!!
It is a good idea to tax these places; they also take up valuable space(apartments)...
London has a similar issue...
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)On a 6% commission basis, that means he makes $3 million a year, and Martin Eiden doesn't want to have to hustle and scramble for that little chunk of change. Have a heart!
Also, I don't think many of the high end buyers are going to care all that much. Part of the reason they buy these expensive properties that they live in for just a couple of weeks a year is so that they don't have get a hotel room. The nosy hotel employees might notice something amiss in their suites when they happen upon the domestic slaves. Having a private residence avoids the inconvenience of explaining to suspicious cops who those haggard women with the haunted eyes are.
getagrip_already
(14,825 posts)A Foriner, who is going to spend in excess of $5M for a piece of property they will neither live in nor use, will not buy that unit now, because TAX, and they then won't be able to not live in or not use it?
The humanities!
TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)Now theyll have to invest in stocks or t-bills or something. The horror.