My guess what's in the report: No collusion.

[DetlefK]

Oh sure, Russia was head-first up to its ankles in the 2016 election.
From russian online-trolls organizing grassroots-support for Trump on Facebook, to russian hackers hacking the DNC, to Guccifer 2.0 giving the hacked material to Wikileaks, to Don Jr. meeting with Natalya Veselnitskaya, an agent of the Russian Ministry of the Interior, in Trump Tower, to Jared Kushner trying to set up back-channel communications with the russian ambassador, to Jeff Sessions meeting suspiciously often with the russian ambassador, to Mike Flynn negotiating with Russia behind the back of the Obama-administration, to George Papadopolous meeting with russian secret agent Sergej Mifsud, to Carter Page meeting with russian secret agents, and so so much more.

However, I don't think that Mueller found evidence that connects Trump PERSONALLY to any of this.





But I guess what the report WILL contain is a detailed report of the many ways in which Trump was handed his victory on a silver-platter by foreign puppet-masters.

[Codeine]

1. Stop being reasonable.

I’m going to need a lot more ALL CAPS and preferably thirteen or fourteen exclamation points. Some f-bombs wouldn’t hurt either.

Don’t make me do your work for you, man.

[mr_lebowski]

2. I've said this all along ... don't be surprised if Mueller can't prove Trump was the ringleader

He's been a crime boss his whole life. He knows how to let people know what they should be doing without incriminating himself. This is why his underlings are falling, but he's not. This is why Cohen said the things he said about how 'you just knew what's expected of you, and you did it'.

Trump is a lot of things, but he's not actually dumb. He's rather a brilliant ... criminal.

He chose people around himself who he knew would compromise themselves as needed, who would just 'understand what they should do'. And of course Jr & Eric know what to do.

Of course, were this a Democrat the Wingnuts would be insisting that 'Hillary hired these people, so she's responsible for what they did!'. And the Corporate Media would ride with that story. But they won't with Trump. In part because prominent Dems have NEVER FUCKING SAID THAT, which is something I've thought was missing from our side ... all along.

Just the fact that the Trump Tower meeting had happened, combined with Russia helping the Dem candidate win by breaking into RNC servers ... would've been enough to impeach a Democrat.

Same with the Stormy coverup. Would've been enough in and of itself.

But NOW ... unless this report is a lot better for us than I'm imagining, not only are we going to hear 'Sour Grapes Cause the 2016 Election', but also 'Sour Grapes cause NO COLLUSION!'.

And sadly, many will believe this.

[OliverQ]

6. Trump doesn't need to be the ring leader to be guilty.

Conspiracy applies to anyone who was involved, regardless of their level of involvement.

[mr_lebowski]

7. That's the legal standard for poor/middle $ people, not for 'Billionaires' who happen to be POTUS

You may right about the letter of the law, but it's irrelevant here.

[AJT]

3. Why no charges against Kushner or Don Jr.?

[DetlefK]

8. Two possible reasons:

1.
Mueller has left sealed indictments as a time-bomb, to be triggered once Trump is out of office and can no longer obstruct justice.

2.
Kushner and Jr are subjects of on-going investigations.
- Jr is a member of the Trump Corporation, which is currently being investigated for bank-fraud, for breaking sanctions, and if Michael Cohen is correct, also for insurance-fraud and tax-fraud. Mueller could have left the sealed indictments as a gift for those investigators.
- Kushner is currently under scrutiny for selling top-secret information to Saudi-Arabia, and the FBI would be colossaly incompetent if they had nobody looking into that. Also here, it's possible that Mueller left the sealed indictments as a gift.



The biggest problem for an investigator is proving that the accused has a criminal mindset. That the crime wasn't an innocent mistake. With these sealed indictments and the evidence behind them, the investigators can show a criminal mindset via circumstantial evidence.

[Atticus]

4. As has been mentioned elsewhere, how do we not consider that Trump's repeated and continuing

obstruction of justice WAS his "collusion"? They interfered in the election and, in furtherance of the interference, he did all he could to impede any investigation of it.

[Hoyt]

5. I think you are correct. However, there are not enough people who care

to do anything about it, other than investigate.

[anarch]

9. my personal theory has always been that the orange fuckhead is basically just a patsy

in this situation, and not the...erm...mastermind. If you get where I'm coming from.


I mean, he was always a mob stooge and a money launderer, a rich kid who got in too deep trying to be a wiseguy like the thugs and strongmen he apparently admires most in life, not actually part of the administration of any organized crime family aside from that comprising his own father's personal business organization and real estate holdings.

And I don't think the fucker even really wanted to be president; he may have thought he did at one point, but really all he wants is attention and to feel like a smart person; he just happened to be in a position where the Russians could use him as a weapon against the U.S., along with a great many other "weaponized dumbasses" as I like to call them, they have done so to great effect, and along with Brexit have really inflicted tremendous damage to several of the main constituents of NATO that Putin sees as his enemies.

So yeah, that's sort of what I expect too--the bottom line being, "well, yeah, he's an asshole, and the Russians definitely ratfucked the 2016 election process, but there's nothing we can really charge him with" (although probably the state of NY can and eventually will, I would think...he'll probably die before he spends a day in prison though)

[ck4829]

10. Kick

[uponit7771]

11. The Russian ... ***GOVERNMENT***. Mueller's focus was very very very narrow.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

12. Right now, that's only Barr's focus.

Mueller could have had a much wider focus, but Barr seemed to hone in on one particular aspect as if it was in and of itself conclusive.

[uponit7771]

13. Yes, you're right... I'm still giving Barr too much credit for being honest. Hmmmm, I'm thinking Red

... Don will fight releasing the full report