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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPreventing his re-election is more important than Mueller's report
and I really think it's very do-able:
Wisconsin/Michigan/Pennsylvania are the key states... everything else is gravy..
The info from the report will take time to work thru the courts.. We just need to focus on not letting him win again.. His loser brigade will follow him over the cliff.. we just need to concentrate on the truly winnable states and let him have the rest..
Socal31
(2,484 posts)Cheers
allgood33
(1,584 posts)Trump insured that FL will never be in play for Dems with his new mantra that "Democrats hate Jews."
Socal31
(2,484 posts)FL would be flipped with a Gillum VP selection.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)states who are supporting the move to allow the states to choose whether or not to go with the electoral votes or the popular votes we will have a more realistic election outcome. We have enough states to get 181 electoral votes and need a few more to hit the 270 amount needed.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)decides ?
It's a great idea though.
Socal31
(2,484 posts)We can win as it is.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)Last night MSNNC had the man who is organizing this on and he seemed pretty hopeful that we will get enough by 2020.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)Some of those States. Hopefully the likes of NM and Va will follow in due course.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... the opposite is letting another group of people get away with some sick shit.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)By 2020 it's even possible that a few more states will change their electoral procedures.
I see two serious things to do...
We have already come up with some great candidates, and what we have to do is keep them looking great and avoid or derail any disruptions to the process. Debates and discussions, not fights, between the candidates.
More urgent is to pay serious attention to local races this year-- that's where we can see trends happening. I have my own gut feeling that many, perhaps most, people are sick of what's going on, but confused how to deal with it. This November they may start working it out locally.
Ford_Prefect
(7,895 posts)once again our local, state and congressional candidates and members. One must ask just how wise this approach has been in past attempts? (You do recall that one, right?)
One must also question just how fair it is to assume that candidacy for national office means you only really want the votes of certain party members even though you collect funds and election workers from the whole party?
The electoral college conundrum needs to be addressed without sacrificing Democrats whom you will certainly need in Congress and the Senate, let alone local and state government.
Perhaps you have forgotten that the Party of NO runs candidates for dog catcher, school board, town and county commission, along with state judges and local magistrates. If there is no national connection we are throwing away the family link of Democratic identity for our candidates for those offices.
The national agenda set by the national candidate matters to local and regional Democrats. Otherwise why vote for that candidate: why identify as a Democrat at all?
I also remind you of the 2016 outcome in states were the conclusion was assumed to the extent that the candidate did not campaign on the ground in the last push to the election. We have had numerous "debates" about that result.
We need to be challenging the Republican machine in EVERY state. The last Democratic President understood that and won by doing so. Why not ask him about that?