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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf these fuckers dare to keep this report and most of its details and evidence from the public
after they released hundreds of thousand of documents relating to Hillarys emails, we MUST take to the streets.
That CANNOT stand.
Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)It will either officially be made public or someone will leak it.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)I think most of the stuff about Trump will be released.
But he also investigated a ton of Trump staffers that were never prosecuted. Congress may see some of that investigation, but i doubt the public will.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e), which enshrines the traditional rule of grand jury secrecy, establishes exceptions that allow grand jury materials (such as transcripts of witness testimony) to be disclosed to certain outside parties in limited circumstances. Some of these exceptions allow for automatic disclosureto necessary government personnel, for examplebut many of the exceptions require that disclosure be authorized by the federal district court in the jurisdiction where the jury is convened,as the court ultimately has some degree ofsupervisory authorityover the grand jury. Rule 6(e)(3)(E)provides in relevant part that the court may authorize disclosure . . . of a grand-jury matter (1) preliminarily to or in connection with a judicial proceeding; (2) to a defendant who shows grounds may exist to dismiss the indictment because of something that occurred before the grand jury; or (3) at the request of the government, to a foreign court or prosecutor or to an appropriate state, state-subdivision, Indian tribal, military, or foreign government official for the purpose of enforcing or investigating a violation of the respective jurisdictions criminal law.Persons seeking court authorization under one of these exceptions must make a strong showing of particularized need that outweighs the public interest in secrecy.
Relying on a robust conception of a courts supervisory authority over the grand juries that they have empaneled,three Circuit Courts of Appealsthe Second, Seventh, and Eleventhand a number of district courts have determined that the list of court-authorized exceptions in Rule 6(e) is not exclusive, and that courts in fact have the inherent authority to permit disclosure of grand jury information and materials in circumstances not expressly contemplated by the text of the Rule. The courts that have found such authority have emphasized the proposition, supported by early Supreme Court precedent, that Rule 6 is merely declaratory of the long-standing principle that disclosure of grand jury materials is committed to the discretion of the trial court. As such, according to these courts, Rule 6(e)s enumeration of circumstances in which courts may authorize disclosure of matters occurring before a grand jury does not, by itself, eliminate the courts power to address situations that the Rule does not describe.Courts that have found they possess inherent authority to permit disclosure of grand jury materials beyond the text of Rule 6(e) have nonetheless generally cabined the exercise of such authority to special circumstances, most frequently where there is significant public interestin proceedings that have already concluded.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/secrecy/LSB10201.pdf
TheRealistRealist
(180 posts)I will never trust anything less than the full report coming from Barr. It's obvious he's leaking otherwise why the Magat-largo celebrations on Friday. There was also a big ole smilefest on with Trump, Graham (aka lapdog), Melania and Gowdy. The photos are sickening and infuriating. I feel like the villains are winning and will become more emboldened. I am so scared for our country's future.
brooklynite
(94,737 posts)Trump was at a scheduled RNC fundraiser.
TheRealistRealist
(180 posts)The mood at Magat-largo was described as celebratory and victorious. This was after MSM confirmed Giuliani's statement that Mueller had no additional indictments and the report was complete.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)brooklynite
(94,737 posts)JAD
(187 posts)Mueller helped take down John (Teflon Don) Gotti. Audrey Strauss was just hired in the SDNY. Think RICO.
paleotn
(17,970 posts)At the very least, will find its way to the Washington Post, NY Times, etc. Some things just can't be kept secret.
certainot
(9,090 posts)protesting state capitols doesn't work anymore.
a recent article on a poll showing rw media attacks on AOC are working blames it on fox and that's the usual read by her supporters and that's dumb - limbaugh plays a major part in that and regularly calls her a commie, stalinist dunce to set the tone on 1500 radio stations and fox - as long as the left ignores that we're not getting her back
protesting his stations and the universities that broadcast sports on 260 stations that headline limbaugh would scare off most of their advertisers and destroy the rw radio monopoly messaging megaphone that's been so important in this disaster the last 30 years.
here's a list of 88 universities that broadcast sports on 260 limbaugh stations - they're some of the loudest in the
US - and if one or two of those unis was pushed to reread and honor their mission statements and started looking for apolitical alternatives other unis would be shamed into following. that attention will scare the crap out of the gop that depend on all that free help. that will increase media attention. advertisers on all RW stations would head for the hills.
otherwise republicans can ignore protests - how many protestors are a few hundred assholes on 1500 stations reaching 50 mil a week worth?
if republicans paid $1000/hr for radio infomercials x 15 hrs a day to defund public ed, deny global warming,excusing racism, protecting trump those stations would be worth about $1BIL/year FREE and endorsed by those universities.....
from republiconradio.org
$1000x 15 hrs/day x 5 days/week = $75,000/week working for trump attacking dem investigators, mueller, etc, polluting jury pools, and intimidating judges and GOP senators thinking about impeachment. and enabling the teabag trumpers in congress wanting more investigations of hillary ....
ALABAMA 8 $600,000 Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1
ARIZONA 1 $75,000 Arizona St. 1
ARKANSAS 3 $225,000 Arkansas 3
CALIFORNIA 5 $375,000 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 $300,000 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1 $75,000 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 $1,500,000 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 $1,050,000 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7 $525,000 Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 $525,000 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 $825,000 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 $375,000 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 $300,000 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 $225,000 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 $225,000 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 $150,000 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 $75,000 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 $1,425,000 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 $300,000 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 $450,000 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 $450,000 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 $450,000 Nebraska 6
NEVADA 1 $75,000 Nevada 1
NEW JERSEY 2 $150,000 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 $225,000 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 $525,000 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 $1,200,000 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 $750,000 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 $375,000 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 $900,000 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 $1,050,000 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 $300,000 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 $525,000 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 $1,200,000 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 $75,000 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 $450,000 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1
WASHINGTON 6 $450,000 Washington 5, Washington St. 1
WEST VIRGINIA 2 $150,000 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1
WISCONSIN 3 $225,000 Wisconsin 3
njhoneybadger
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Thekaspervote
(32,794 posts)End of problem
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ChiTownDenny
(747 posts)that there is a provision in the Special Counsel statute that the AG MAY release the report.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)Just demonstrating won't do much plus Americans rarely stick together on something like this, most are too busy working 2 jobs just to put food on the table, the rest are tRumpsters.
TheRealistRealist
(180 posts)An organized boycott on South Carolina and Kentucky and all Fox advertisers is needed. We should also boycott companies that have given campaign donations to Trump, Graham and McConnell in the past.