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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn Election Night 2016, former US Ambassador Michael McFaul sent a sarcastic tweet "congratulating"
...the Russian government on their victory.
For months prior, McFaul had been targeted ruthlessly by online Russian trolls and propagandists who were making no secret about the fact that Russia was doing all they could to throw the election for Trump.
Bottom line: Of course there was collusion.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)The question we're waiting to have answered by Mueller and maybe other prosecutors is whether those acts of collusion also constituted prosecutable conspiracies, because they aren't the same thing. If it's determined that Mueller won't/can't prosecute Trump for the crime of conspiracy, either because he didn't find evidence sufficient to establish proof beyond a reasonable doubt of an underlying crime, or (more likely) because he will observe the old OLC opinions that a sitting president can't be indicted, there is still the political fallout from all that collusion.
Maybe Trump might be able to say "No indictable conspiracy!" but "No collusion!" - not so much.
fountainofyouth
(409 posts)Russia and Trump both independently benefited from the interference. An approving nod from a distance was all that was needed to keep it going.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)fucking saying it a short time later.