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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:46 PM Mar 2019

It's FITZMAS, Y'all! Ready for Pardons all around, for everyone? Manafort, Cohen, Flynn, etc?

Gotta pretty good feeling that's what's coming next.

Well, maybe not Cohen, but everyone else who's not already served their time, who DIDN'T sellout the Mob Boss.

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RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
1. Pardoning a convicted multi-count tax evader and admitted liars?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:49 PM
Mar 2019

For what, exactly?

"I'm not a crook" didn't work for Nixon, and even he didn't pardon his cronies. Ask John Dean.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
3. Pardon him because he was 'treated unfairly' and the only reason Manafort is in trouble is because
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:52 PM
Mar 2019

he worked for rump so yeah it's pretty obvious that is what he will do.

AND Manafort kept his mouth shut and truly protected this fuck and others.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. You forgot 'likely mastermind of the whole scheme, who put Trump in office, through his RU connects'
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:56 PM
Mar 2019

and who apparently DIDN'T TALK.

Yeah, I fully expect a Manafort Pardon, shortly.

And if Stone, Manaforts old buddy, gets convicted? He'll get one, too.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. When was Nixon exonerated by a Special Counsel, RH?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:09 PM
Mar 2019

Gentlemen's Bet ... I bet Manafort is pardoned.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
10. Agnew?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:40 PM
Mar 2019

Agnew?

Mitchell?

Kliendienst?

Stans?

And the list goes on...

The GOP's owners knew it wouldn't help them then; I doubt they see it as helping now.

I'll bet Manafort is charged and convicted in NY state before he's pardoned.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. I appreciate your positive outlook RH, but I'm about 20 shots into my day at this point ...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:53 PM
Mar 2019

I'm not feeling it.

With Watergate you have the benefit of hindsight, KNOWING that Nixon ordered HIS henchmen to physically break into the DNC HQ, AND that there were tapes proving he did so.

We don't have that right now. You seem to ASSUME Trump colluded, is guilty, there's a big coverup, and that there's definitive proof out there ... but we don't actually now that right now.

If I knew about this situation what I know in hindsight about Watergate, I'd share your enthusiasm. But I don't. And frankly neither do you ...

Good talk

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
13. The thing is....
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:55 PM
Mar 2019

The thing is....

you need fire to produce smoke, and there's a hell of a lot of smoke.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. Agreed, but I think ultimately the problem is the weakness in the Laws ... nobody thought anyone
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:02 PM
Mar 2019

running for POTUS would ever try to pull shit like this.

We DEFINITELY need the House to get the full report though, lets see if we have anything that rises to impeachment level, even if it doesn't rise to 'actual criminal' level.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
16. Agreed back at ya.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:03 PM
Mar 2019

Agreed back at ya.

I think this was Trump's last "good" day, to be honest.

The Democrats are ready to drag every single Republican protector into Congress for sworn testimony.

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
4. I've been afraid that this would be the outcome, although I did expect some findings
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:53 PM
Mar 2019

of collusion by some of his campaign personnel, if not Trump himself.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
12. I really, really wish people would stop with this "Fitzmas" bullshit
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:54 PM
Mar 2019

it's not clever.

not in the least.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. Really?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:03 PM
Mar 2019

This is fucking Fitzmas Part II if there ever was one.

Not being 'clever', being Real.

Sorry if it hurts. I'm hurt, just like I was then.

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