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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy somewhat tin foil hat look at Russian collusion.
This is what I think Mueller found and may have or may not have put in his report.
Trump was, if nothing else, a willing dupe in all things Russia.
He may or may not have helped orchestrate Russian interference.
However, even if Mueller could prove collusion/conspiracy, he (and others like Barr and Rosenstein) didnt think the country could handle that information.
Also, these same people did not want other nations such as China and North Korea to know that our country was so easily compromised as to elect a Russian asset/Manchurian candidate.
Instead, let everyone believe that Trump just wittingly or unwittingly accepted Russian help.
So, its better to let Trump be known as stupid and/or naive rather than treasonous.
Let people think that Trump was just greedy in his dealings with Russia.
Let people think that Trump just has man crushes on strong dictators like Putin as a character flaw but not as any kind of alliance.
Let people think that all of the people in and around Trumps campaign were just rogue actors in their dealings with Russia with merely greedy personal motives but no coordinated campaign goals.
There are so many things that they need to explain away to dispel any coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, oligarchs, private citizens.
So, instead of doing so, they just go in a different direction.
Trump and his campaign did a lot of bad things, wrong things, unethical things, inappropriate things, errors and lies of omission, but they didnt do enough illegal things that led directly back to Trump to qualify as collusion or conspiracy or coordination of the Russians efforts.
Thats the way I see them playing this.
ananda
(28,860 posts)That would be investigatory malfeasance on a ridiculous scale.
Funtatlaguy
(10,875 posts)A treasonous President? Thats something to deal with.
lark
(23,099 posts)I bet the true answer is Mueller was blocked, forbidden to touch the children or drumpf by either one of the acting AG's and being the good repug he is, he just followed orders. We know we saw him commit conspiracy with Russia in plain sight and I always believe my eyes over the words of lying pols. If he didn't, why did every one of his staff, including him, lie about it? That is the proof as far as I'm concerned. In my darkest moments I always wondered if Mueller being a repug would trump him being an American, and so far party has won.
Now, I am saying this off of Barr's characterizations. He's part of the Bush clan, so he's a good smooth liar and puts party above everything but family. if he's lying about what's in Mueller's' report, and I'm hoping like hell that's the case, we should find out in time. I just hope it's before the next election or PUtin and the rw white nationalists around the world will have won and our country is gone. could be forever.
Completely agree....
Funtatlaguy
(10,875 posts)Mueller has dealt with many mob families before.
I think that he truly believes we have such a family in the White House.
But, I dont think that he believes its his place to get them out of there.
He thinks that should be done thru Congress or at the voting booth.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)I think Mueller realizes that it would be near impossible to charge trump with treason. Ar the very least, Manafort did collude with Russia.
There is VERY real possibility now that trump will be elected for 2nd term. Not mich has been done to secure election sustem in critical states so we can expect exponentially higher level of intrusion in 2020.
Funtatlaguy
(10,875 posts)Russia influence scores very low on issues of concern.
Even less so with Republicans who hear little of it on their news sources other than the cries of no collusion and fake news.
They would be totally unprepared to hear and believe we have a treasonous President.