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matt819

(10,749 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 01:59 PM Apr 2019

A thought about why the Mueller report hasn't leaked

Random thought. You'd think someone would have leaked the report by now.

Numbered, identifiable copies. A leak would track back to a specific individual.

As I said, a random thought.

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A thought about why the Mueller report hasn't leaked (Original Post) matt819 Apr 2019 OP
I'm more surprised qazplm135 Apr 2019 #1
Everything is electronic these days. marylandblue Apr 2019 #2
You have to know what you're doing zipplewrath Apr 2019 #4
I was shocked to learn that photocopiers leave ID on each page... Hekate Apr 2019 #10
Ask Reality Winner PSPS Apr 2019 #3
Because the DoJ is staffed by professionals jberryhill Apr 2019 #5
Agreed matt819 Apr 2019 #7
Leaking is very risky. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #8
I don't think compromising a criminal investigation is a "greater good" jberryhill Apr 2019 #9
It's somewhere on some DoJ computer system. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #6
Like Ellsberg, someone has to decide if they want to fall on their sword and expose the truth mitch96 Apr 2019 #11

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
2. Everything is electronic these days.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 02:05 PM
Apr 2019

So it would have been emailed to only a few individuals on a secure server. Only a few people would have access to it. With just a handful of suspects, who will take the chance?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
4. You have to know what you're doing
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 02:08 PM
Apr 2019

Printers have subtle features that identify which printer was used to make a physical copy that can be detected in the printed page. Electronic files can have underlying "meta data" that can reveal who saved the copy. Unless you believe you know EXACTLY what to do to prevent these things, one will do well to re-think the action. It will come out, ultimately. We've waited 2 years. 2 weeks or so isn't going to kill anyone.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
10. I was shocked to learn that photocopiers leave ID on each page...
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 03:37 PM
Apr 2019

Apparently in a pale yellow not really detectable with the naked eye.

We live in a post-anonymity world.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Because the DoJ is staffed by professionals
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 02:12 PM
Apr 2019

I hate to state the obvious, but there are gazillions of lawyers and law firms all over the place with all kinds of information, who are used to the rules of professional responsibility.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
7. Agreed
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 03:16 PM
Apr 2019

And it's great that there are still a few professionals. But we're not talking about those people. We're looking at leakers. Whistleblowers. People able and willing to take a risk for something resembling the greater good. I grew up (professionally speaking) in an environment where nothing was leaked. Nothing. At. All. My integrity and ethics, and those of my colleagues, was so ingrained that this was not ever an issue. And I never encountered a situation where I would consider otherwise (thank goodness). But we live in strange and dangerous times. The risks are high. The lines between right and wrong dangerously blurred.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
8. Leaking is very risky.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 03:30 PM
Apr 2019

Daniel Ellsberg was charged with espionage, theft and conspiracy for leaking the Pentagon Papers, and he faced the possibility of a 115-year sentence. Fortunately for him, all charges against him were dismissed when the judge was informed of the break-in of his psychiatrist's office and of the FBI's illegal wiretapping of Ellsberg's conversations. But he took a huge risk. Not many people would be willing to face espionage charges.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. I don't think compromising a criminal investigation is a "greater good"
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 03:35 PM
Apr 2019

Congress, which has the ability to act on it, is going to subpoena it if they don't get it.


The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
6. It's somewhere on some DoJ computer system.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 02:12 PM
Apr 2019

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That also makes leaking difficult because the computers will require passwords and the system would be able to track which computer is being accessed, by whom, and when, so if someone wanted to copy the report onto a flash drive it would be hard to get away with it.

Daniel Ellsberg leaked the Pentagon Papers by laboriously photocopying the whole document, which was much longer than the Mueller report - but that was back in 1969 when copiers didn't have access codes. Ellsberg took the original out of his office at the Rand Corporation and used a Xerox machine at an advertising agency where he knew the owner. It would be much more difficult to pull off something like that now.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
11. Like Ellsberg, someone has to decide if they want to fall on their sword and expose the truth
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 03:55 PM
Apr 2019

I think it would be more effective if the Mueller Report is released and then the unredacted report is released at or just after and they are compared...
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