General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBased on Trump"s past 24 hours, estimate his IQ
He couldn't remember his father was born in New York, not Germany.
The noise from wind farms cause cancer.
He could only say oranges, each time he meant to say origins.
He thought congress could get rid of judges and that's what it should be doing.
He thought the midterm elections were rigged and that's why Republicans did badly.
He said he thought immigration could be fixed in 45 minutes.
He forgot he had already said he was happy for the Mueller report to be released.
He thought it was a good strategy to repeal ACA and come up with a replacement after 2020.
Closing the border with Mexico wouldn't be good economically, after saying on Friday that it would be a win.
Based on this, what do you think is his current IQ?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)What we're seeing is a combination of extreme narcissism and possible age-related memory loss.
Doodley
(9,089 posts)It isn't just memory loss. It is critical thinking.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)and the questions are intended to evaluate a variety of specific things. Some parts evaluate visual and spacial skills, abstract reasoning, math, vocabulary, etc., and the scores are added to arrive at a total, adjusted by a person's age. So it's completely impossible to know what any person's IQ is without them actually taking the test. I do think Trump is a right dumbass; I just don't know whether it's because he's developmentally disabled (probably not), intellectually lazy (almost certainly), too narcissistic to admit he's ever wrong (definitely), and/or suffering from age-related mental decline (very likely).
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)The condition is called aphasia and results from a brain injury or lesion. It causes lose of words and inability to say words. This is what happens to me. Oranges. He is a stupid ass in so many ways but this particular aspect maybe cant b helped. I give him an iq of 70.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)-1,000,000
IcyPeas
(21,871 posts)I change the channel every time he is on my tv.
womanofthehills
(8,703 posts)Doodley
(9,089 posts)0rganism
(23,953 posts)before he kills us all when his lumbago flares up.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)He is brilliant as a con artist. He knows his targets, knows how to "relate" to them, knows who to scapegoat, knows how to push buttons that will turn people against one another (divide and conquer), fraudulently casts himself as a superb deal maker who will improve people's lives, profits from marketing worthless products (Trump University), and is adept at concocting excuses and flat-out lying whenever things go south on his watch. He is woefully ignorant but is incapable of recognizing any limitations, and his "trust your gut" smugness actually inspires his followers who also happen to be ignorant beyond belief. Trump has them locked in, and one must give him "credit" for pulling it off so well in the short term. In the longer term, history will not be so kind.
Doodley
(9,089 posts)credit for scapegoating and playing to the very worst aspects of human existence.
Karadeniz
(22,514 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)all those diet cokes don't help either.
nolabear
(41,963 posts)He seems to be decompensating. I say this as a pro. I think something is changing.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)safeinOhio
(32,676 posts)SAT scores.
Release the results.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)He had a really good case for dementia. He was comparing the young Trump tapes with the current ones.
He seems to be in rapid decline based on his use of language.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)First and foremost he has his narcissistic personality disorder with a dash of paranoia thrown in. On top of that there is some sort of senile dementia going on and it's happening rather rapidly now.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)Celerity
(43,353 posts)Johonny
(20,850 posts)No, no we are not.
TheBlackAdder
(28,193 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)Everything we have observed about this asshole has origins other than low intelligence. He is the product of shitty, disgusting parents who were every bit as as nasty and hateful as he is. They raised him to be a spoiled, entitled brat on top of following in their asshole footsteps. He had everything handed to him, and never had to work a day in his life. We're seeing the same thing with his putrid, rotten offspring.
As for the forgetting and word jumbling, that is likely due to a range of other things, including cardiovascular disease, long-term drug use, and maybe even untreated venereal disease. And, some of that forgetfulness is probably just his usual games-playing. He loves to gaslight.
Luciferous
(6,079 posts)Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)Celerity
(43,353 posts)Would certainly be close to the truth.
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)Which is probably low average (85-100), but more a matter of possible cognitive decline due to the onset of dementia.
Dementia, combined with a lifetime of just Making Shit Up, could explain what we're seeing.
Turbineguy
(37,329 posts)Inseam
randr
(12,412 posts)That half the population ranks below 100 explains a lot
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Unfortunately for him, Obama nominated that judge is not grounds for impeachment.
Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)Trump is a pathological liar who suffers from ongoing cognitive decline made worse by the stress of his situation. He can't think straight anymore than he can talk straight. I seem to remember reading that malignant narcissists actually lose IQ points because of their condition. I believe that after two years of watching the orange buffoon.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Birds of a feather and all that.