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Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 07:12 PM Apr 2019

Cohen "discovered substantial files on a hard drive" - ready to trade for more time on the outside

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen is offering Democrats new information in a bid to stay out of jail while he cooperates with Congress.

Cohen's attorneys Lanny Davis and Michael Monico told lawmakers in a letter Thursday that Cohen has discovered substantial files on a hard drive that might be helpful to investigators.

Cohen is asking for additional time -- and congressional help -- to persuade the Southern District of New York to allow him to postpone reporting to jail in order to review the files. Cohen's lawyers wrote in the letter, obtained by CNN, they hoped Cohen would receive a reduced term, and that the May 6 date Cohen is scheduled to report to prison "will be substantially postponed while he is fully cooperating with prosecutors and Congress."

He is asking top Democrats on the committees where he testified to write letters outlining his cooperation that he could use to lobby prosecutors for a lesser sentence.

More:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/04/politics/michael-cohen-letter/index.html



Cohen could single-handedly bring down DT, I truly believe- there is SO much more he knows that we haven’t heard yet - bring it, Cohen

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Cohen "discovered substantial files on a hard drive" - ready to trade for more time on the outside (Original Post) Leghorn21 Apr 2019 OP
No more postponements. Chin music Apr 2019 #1
Newly "discovered" in a previously "forgotten" safety deposit box, perhaps? Nevilledog Apr 2019 #2
Yeah...he'd hidden a hard drive well before the raid. Very sensitive materials? Too bad. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #12
Just think how pissed off prosecutors will be if this is dynamite info. Nevilledog Apr 2019 #14
Cohen is in mea culpa phase. i'd rather he gets a reduced sentence and help Dems get to the truth onetexan Apr 2019 #17
I second that Perseus Apr 2019 #23
"break glass" scenario onetexan Apr 2019 #26
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2019 #34
A snippet from the letter manor321 Apr 2019 #3
*Clank!* gratuitous Apr 2019 #5
I don't think you get bricks on Trump's diet. Probably more like a horse on a flat rock. Midnight Writer Apr 2019 #9
If it shows 100 percent evidence of Trump committing a crime... cbdo2007 Apr 2019 #4
I was so completely bummed the other day, not knowing if we'll ever know what Cohen does - that Leghorn21 Apr 2019 #6
Cohen's heart is breaking facing separation from his family. IndyOp Apr 2019 #7
Lanny Davis also said "Cohen has a story to tell" about the Trump Tower 2016 meeting. triron Apr 2019 #8
Which might prove collusion. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #25
They do say that the prospect of being hanged in the morning wonderfully concentrates the mind... Hekate Apr 2019 #10
A get out of jail free hard drive? I hope this works for him/us because I'm gonna be REALLY PISSED UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #11
Bring it Michael. It's redemption time. And that is totally OK. Welcome back. Evolve Dammit Apr 2019 #13
"What have you got to lose", indeed! czarjak Apr 2019 #15
A trap for Democrats. mia Apr 2019 #16
yay... samnsara Apr 2019 #18
I'm Bothered By This DallasNE Apr 2019 #19
I don't like it either. It could also be a setup to make Mueller look bad. C Moon Apr 2019 #22
The Southern District of NY seemed to know all along that he's been holding out Jarqui Apr 2019 #32
Today Cohen Said DallasNE Apr 2019 #33
A temporary stay of 2 days is "all" he should be given unless there is compelling evidence of a cstanleytech Apr 2019 #20
You want to get Trump or what. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #24
Rather I want justice to be dealt to anyone that committed a major felony and if cstanleytech Apr 2019 #27
Hiding evidence? paleotn Apr 2019 #21
Wouldn't that also work against him if he failed to turn it over earlier? LiberalFighter Apr 2019 #28
Just because there were some subpoena's and such on MC doesn't mean they mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #29
I Realize Most Of What They Had On Cohen DallasNE Apr 2019 #30
If he really knew more, he would have spilled it by now. All he had to tell Hoyt Apr 2019 #31

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
1. No more postponements.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 07:16 PM
Apr 2019

They never amount to shit but, week by week, month by month, this 'admin' has postponed itself into 2.5 years of an illegitimate presidency. End the shit. Just gets dragged out and dragged out, and trumps still there.

Nevilledog

(51,093 posts)
2. Newly "discovered" in a previously "forgotten" safety deposit box, perhaps?
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 07:18 PM
Apr 2019

Might be good stuff if he's held of playing this card for this long. It would have to be pretty fucking important to help him now.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. Yeah...he'd hidden a hard drive well before the raid. Very sensitive materials? Too bad.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:22 PM
Apr 2019

I think his time is up. Just like Ted Bundy...he kept promising/offering to give out locations of dead bodies, a few at a time, in exchange for delaying his execution. There was a time, though, when they quit fooling around with him and just imposed his sentence.

Nevilledog

(51,093 posts)
14. Just think how pissed off prosecutors will be if this is dynamite info.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:33 PM
Apr 2019

Real double edged sword for Cohen. He wouldn't have been fully cooperative if he didn't disclose this info already. Guess it depends on how good his excuse is for lack of disclosure.

onetexan

(13,038 posts)
17. Cohen is in mea culpa phase. i'd rather he gets a reduced sentence and help Dems get to the truth
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:37 PM
Apr 2019

it's worth the exchange if we get further damning evidence to lock this crooked guy and his kids & cronies away.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
23. I second that
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:30 PM
Apr 2019

If it helps to put all the repub thugs, the orange buffoon and his family away then shorten his time in jail, extend the date...anything...I am all for it. He still needs to pay some, but if the information is good and helpful, then great.

The thing he is going to have to deal with is to answer why he didn't "find" the information before.

onetexan

(13,038 posts)
26. "break glass" scenario
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:42 PM
Apr 2019

files were probably marked "ONLY USE AS A LAST DITCH EFFORT WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS"

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
3. A snippet from the letter
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 07:21 PM
Apr 2019
Said drive contains over 14 million files, which consist of all e-mails, voice recordings, images, and attachments from Mr. Cohen’s computers and phones. To date, Mr. Cohen has located several documents that we believe have significant value to the various congressional oversight and investigation committees.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
4. If it shows 100 percent evidence of Trump committing a crime...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 07:22 PM
Apr 2019

And he gives it to Democrats and CNN...then they make a deal. Don't give him the deal before hand. Make him show the goods publicly.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
6. I was so completely bummed the other day, not knowing if we'll ever know what Cohen does - that
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 07:35 PM
Apr 2019

one lousy tape we heard gave us Allen Weisselberg, ffs - and he set up the deal with Broidy and Bechel, he brokered the deal between Falwell Jr. and the pool boy (??!?), he did SOMETHING for Hannity, we still need to know more about his LLC, and what was the deal with him and Keith Davidson, who brought both Stormy and Karen McDougal

YES I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS

stand and deliver or get yourself a new toothbrush, dude, let’s go here

IndyOp

(15,522 posts)
7. Cohen's heart is breaking facing separation from his family.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 07:38 PM
Apr 2019

Representative Cummings spoke to him about seeing his own daughter in Cohen's daughter - young teen, braces. That was the moment when Cohen expressed his emotions.

Chairman Cummings about Cohen's daughter
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4782923/chairman-cummings-cohens-daughter

Hekate

(90,669 posts)
10. They do say that the prospect of being hanged in the morning wonderfully concentrates the mind...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:15 PM
Apr 2019

Cohen appears to have been concentrating.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
11. A get out of jail free hard drive? I hope this works for him/us because I'm gonna be REALLY PISSED
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:17 PM
Apr 2019

if Michael Cohen is the only one here doing serious time. Fuck Manafort he's a Russian not an American so he doesn't even count.

This whole no collusion and his little fucking collusion delusion I WANT ROLLED UP TIGHT AND SHOVED UP RUMPS RUMP HARD. Sure sure I'll spank him with it first since he likes that....I have heart.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
19. I'm Bothered By This
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:48 PM
Apr 2019

Was not this hard drive the subject of a subpoena? If that is the case did Cohen withhold evidence under subpoena? If so, this should not be subject to negotiation although continuing to cooperate with prosecutors could weigh on his final sentence. But I sense a whiff of blackmail being played here.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
32. The Southern District of NY seemed to know all along that he's been holding out
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:28 PM
Apr 2019

That is part of the reason they were not as accommodating as Mueller was when it came to recommending a sentence.

Now, it appears he's playing his final card to see if he can shave time off his sentence.

One danger is if there is any evidence on that drive that shows Cohen lied to them ... I'm sure Lanny Davis would work out an arrangement with that contingency or they're being really stupid.

With that much new evidence, if the report is accurate, they could nail a few people.
Sean Hannity might be crapping his pants right now.

I'd go for it with conditions - he has to deliver some goods.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
33. Today Cohen Said
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 11:39 AM
Apr 2019

That prosecutors had the hard drive and returned it only a couple of days ago. That means that there is nothing new here for prosecutors. While it would be new to Congress, it seems that this hard drive has already been factored into the sentencing duration for Cohen. But this revelation does put Cohen in a more favorable light.

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
20. A temporary stay of 2 days is "all" he should be given unless there is compelling evidence of a
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:49 PM
Apr 2019

major felony that was committed by someone in the White House for which they can be prosecuted because otherwise its a bit late to try using something to get a deal now.

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
27. Rather I want justice to be dealt to anyone that committed a major felony and if
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:45 PM
Apr 2019

this evidence does not show that as occurring then Cohen needs to go directly to jail.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
21. Hiding evidence?
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:54 PM
Apr 2019

Be glad they're not teeing up additional charges....that we know of. Cohen...once a cheating, lying piece of shit. Always a cheating, lying piece of shit.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
29. Just because there were some subpoena's and such on MC doesn't mean they
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:56 PM
Apr 2019

required every single thing Cohen had from any interaction with anyone tangentially related to Trump ... be turned over. Generally there are specific cases, targets and timeframes and such laid out. You can't just say 'give us everything you've ever owned' in a warrant.

Seriously doubt that this is something that SDNY had a warrant to 'get', but Cohen 'held out' ... and now him and Davis think they're to negotiate with it.

Could be a drive from 8 years ago for all we know. He could also have proof in the form of testimony from an old IT firm he used to employ, saying 'we just found this', that kind of thing.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
30. I Realize Most Of What They Had On Cohen
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:24 PM
Apr 2019

Came from the search warrant the FBI executed and a special Judge ruled on what was protected by Attorney Client privilege and off-limits so I'm not even sure there was a subpoena involved. And if the FBI missed it when they performed their search he could be off the hook. But there is also the terms of his cooperation agreement and that should have called for full disclosure, including this hard drive.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. If he really knew more, he would have spilled it by now. All he had to tell
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 PM
Apr 2019

the House was that trump is a cad, racist, greedy POS, etc. I think even trumpsters know that.

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