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ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RESPONDS TO CLAIM SHE USED 'FAKE' ACCENT: 'I AM FROM THE BRONX. I ACT & TALK LIKE IT'
BY SCOTT MCDONALD ON 4/5/19 AT 7:45 PM EDT
New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spoke Friday at the National Action Network convention, and for all the praise she received for her message about taking pride in your work, she drew an equal amount of criticism for her accent.
Ocasio-Cortez, a first-term Democrat from the Bronx, offered a message to the working class through her speech, stressing that any work is good work. She reflected upon her days as a proud bartender, about which she declared, aint nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with working retail, folding clothes for other people to buy, Ocasio-Cortez said. There is nothing wrong with preparing the food that your neighbors will eat. There is nothing wrong with driving the buses that take your family to work. There is nothing wrong with being a working person in the United States of America and there is everything dignified about it.
It wasnt her pitch itself that got people on social media stirred up about the speech, but rather the delivery. A number of critics of the congresswoman claimed Ocasio-Cortez was using a fake African American accent or faux "Southern accent at the convention, which reportedly had an audience made up largely of African Americans.
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https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-defends-her-criticized-fake-accent-friday-1387980?piano_t=1
JI7
(89,261 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)accent she has but she really doesn't sound like she's from New Yawk as in the boroughs.
Tucker08087
(621 posts)as do many parts on New York and New Jersey. Im from South Jersey. Born and raised. Ive never heard anyone say Joisey in my life. Its probably from an area as small as the Bronx.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)I've met of course.
Tucker08087
(621 posts)It all kind of merges, but when we get back with our people the original accent tends to get stronger.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)typical "New Yorker" it doesn't make her any less New York. Any Republicans have any doubts about that and they'll be pullin' back bloody stumps.
monmouth4
(9,709 posts)Tucker08087
(621 posts)2naSalit
(86,748 posts)I know, but in that area it's often used as slang. Or was when I lived there for decades.
flyingfysh
(1,990 posts)Even Somerville MA (just north of Cambridge, just west of Boston) has its own peculiar accent.
ck4829
(35,081 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,525 posts)There's something about her that scares Republicans witless.
Judi Lynn
(160,598 posts)I don't feel myself getting all whipped up over anything she has ever said or done, and they've been climbing the walls over her from her first appearance in Washington, D.C., and one of them started howling her clothes look too expensive.
Jeezus.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)- my cynical take on it all.
still_one
(92,353 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,598 posts)at anything about her they can focus on.
It is actually worth a begrudging moment's reflection to question why it is they hate this woman.
2naSalit
(86,748 posts)she is way intelligent, knows her job, their jobs and everybody else's job along with the laws... and she just got there. Not only that, she's eloquent in her presentation in person and in media and she doesn't need much help figuring out how to respond in such a way that they cannot compete. And that scares the crap out of them, especially if she's influential enough to attract others like her to government. It would be O V E R for them and they know it so they have to distract her and engage in defcon five character assassination. It used to always work.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)I happend to make a facebook friend, who turns out to be very paranoid, and she was constantly posting about Ocasio-Cortez, so I looked into her further.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Rey in Star Wars being competent, or really any female in a role where they may possibly get the better of a man. They are petrified over being challenged.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)And I've lived in lots of places so my accent reverts from Masshole to Texian to Mexican depending.
2naSalit
(86,748 posts)She's traveled and lived in places where they speak other languages, she code shifts* in a different way as she combines what she's acquired from other languages, not that there aren't examples of that in the Bronx. And maybe she speaks more than one language at home. When I was a kid, that was common among my classmates at school, I wasn't in the Bronx but most of the northeastern states have many cultural influences. Whichever we experience and possibly use, we adopt and it changes from pureness.
*Not sure if there's a term for that, if there is, I don't know it...knowwhatImean?
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)But I've always thought of myself as a social chameleon; blending in to whatever environment I'm in.
My sister used to be a flight attendant for Aeromexico. When I visited her in Mexico city, my accent would shift within 24 hours of being there and nobody could guess I wasn't a chilango (native Mexico City resident). My sister hated me for that; after 5 years living in the city all she had to do was open her mouth to be instantly pegged as a Norteña.
Many a time traveling through rural Texas my accent would shift going into a grocery store or gas station; just another good ol' boy stopping for an RC cola and a Moon Pie. It was a defensive mechanism.
Of course, it takes effort and concentration to do that, and alcohol does not help.
2naSalit
(86,748 posts)the same thing to protect myself as a trucker traveling alone. I switch to whatever I'm hearing if I need to, sometimes I do it without noticing. Have friends with heavy accents from Europe and I sound just like them in a minute or two.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)I had to beg them to switch me to standard English classes because I was starting to pick up the accent of the other foreign students.
Laugh if you want, but I was terrified.
2naSalit
(86,748 posts)Just like English, Spanish and other languages have many dialects. Some are less desirable to adopt, like trucker drawl!
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)bartender....wouldn't that be his base??? Un fucking real.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Bernie's is old-school as well as Trump's. The population shifts and changes as does the accents.
2naSalit
(86,748 posts)thinking the same thing while writing something else.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)People in Brooklyn today sound nothing like Bernie.
2naSalit
(86,748 posts)I think that AOC also has acquired a little of the languages from places she's been, which like the Bronx, changes with new languages/accents present.
ecstatic
(32,727 posts)OK, I bit the bait and listened. I haven't listened to her previous speeches so I have nothing to compare it to, but clearly, you're going to have a different delivery when giving a speech vs. talking in a relaxed setting (like in the Instagram video they posted). Also, the topic probably changes the cadence of a speech as well--like the topic of Russia vs civil rights. In the latter scenario, you might be more inclined to draw inspiration from iconic civil rights leaders like MLK when delivering the speech.
I'm tough on AOC when she messes up, but I think this is silly.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)That was a good speech and I am sure it hit home with millions of everyday people.
dlk
(11,574 posts)That's just silly.
Liberal In Texas
(13,570 posts)We have a lying narcissist psychotic unstable asset of Russia in the White House and this is what's important?
TheRealNorth
(9,497 posts)Shows how pathetic that some in the MSM are at chasing whatever stupid controversy the cons throw out there. I'm not sure I want to even pick that magazine up now next time I visit my MD's office.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)enviros at school/work knows whats up.
Exactly. Moved around quite a bit and I know exactly what she means.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Brooklyn born and bred for the most part, shipped off to Warren PA for the summer before, during, and after the WWII. Because they were made fun of due to their accents while in Warren they learned to talk without a Brooklyn accent. You would be hard pressed to hear a Brooklyn accent in my mom's speech. My uncle you can hear some Long Island, where he lived and worked for most of his working life. But little to no Brooklyn accent. Heck, my uncle didn't start speaking English as his primary language until he went to school since his father was Swedish and his mother was 1st generation Swedish American. He went on to teach English in High School.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)So many reasons for accents and expressions of speech to shift.
Vinca
(50,300 posts)She wasn't using a "fake" southern accent, she was being AOC. She's everything. She nails it every time and on top of it all, I think she's got charisma flowing out of every pore.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)speak to various constituencies in different ways is our doing for being too irresponsible to educate ourselves well enough to be able to be especially interested in discussion of issues and processes.
In these days of highly sophisticated mind-tweaking methods, potential voters still react to the stupidest things on the most primitive levels. If politicians don't do what they have to to somehow keep and do their jobs in spite of it, well funded and well trained replacements who do will take their places.
I don't know if Ocasio is changing her accent, vocabulary, length of sentences with changes of neighborhood. I don't care. It's very easy and natural to adopt the speech patterns of people you're among, politicians have always done it, and these days more and more are of necessity training to do it particularly well.
Oneironaut
(5,519 posts)Second, why is Newsweek publishing this trash? People on Twitter get offended if the wind blows some on the opposing sides hair the wrong way. Its just fake outrage trolling.
KelleyKramer
(8,981 posts)This is both hilarious and pathetic at the same time
Conservatives are absolutely terrified of her
And Newsweek actually wasted ink printing that crap, SMH
spanone
(135,858 posts)what a pant load
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)that he was the only one in his family that had a "Texan Accent".
But seriously, in what universe would we have to be living in for this to be of any importance? Clearly, every problem facing mankind must have been solved.