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global1

(25,263 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:36 AM Apr 2019

Was Barr Brought On To Protect More Than Just Trump?......

I'm thinking that all the obstruction that is going on to prevent the Mueller Report from being made public is more than just because Barr is protecting Trump.

Why would the Repugs always circle the wagons around Trump? Do they really care all that much for Trump to want to protect him?

My theory is that they are really protecting themselves as a Party because the bulk of the Repug Party has been involved - right from the beginning with the so-called collusion with the Russians to allow Russian interference for a major power grab to take over our government.

Now the obstruction goes beyond just protecting Trump. It goes to protecting the RNC. Reince Pribus. Mitch McConnell. Paul Ryan. Lindsay Graham. Steve Bannon, the NRA and a number of other high ranking Repugs.

This is why every path the Dems pursue to do the proper oversight that is required of Congress is being challenged and blocked.

I'm thinking that the Mueller Report goes far beyond only implicating Trump and his Administration; his family and his minions. I'm thinking that the very survival of the Repug Party is at stake.



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Was Barr Brought On To Protect More Than Just Trump?...... (Original Post) global1 Apr 2019 OP
I hate talking like a conspiracy theorist, but your point, in my opinion, is valid. Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #1
Occam's Razor BadgerMom Apr 2019 #38
Yes I've been saying this for months. Barr was brought on to protect the establishment. I would UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #2
That's what I've thought Faux pas Apr 2019 #3
Yes. Iliyah Apr 2019 #4
I think they're protecting him because they all got Russian money donated LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #5
BINGO! The Dallas Morning News had an article in 2017 on the Rs and Russian money -- OMGWTF Apr 2019 #12
Thanks for the link. Here's an updated one with add'l payments from the russkis. erronis Apr 2019 #13
I've thought for a long time that the NRA has been the conduit for Russian money for Republicans. PWPippinesq Apr 2019 #43
Of course he was. And now Trump is trying to rig the IRS to protect his Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #6
Certainly G_j Apr 2019 #7
Russia has turned God's Own Party to a branch of the KGB. nt Baltimike Apr 2019 #8
Of course. McCamy Taylor Apr 2019 #9
My first impression of Barr was that of a snow plow, BarbaRosa Apr 2019 #10
This Barr quote about his support for Iran Contra pardons is flooring EleanorR Apr 2019 #11
Of course not. If it was just him they would have rid themselves of him and moved on. SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #14
Yeah, well, the GOP is dead to me already. n/t dobleremolque Apr 2019 #15
Agree...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2019 #16
For Sure DallasNE Apr 2019 #17
Bingo! NCcoast Apr 2019 #18
and I believe someone(s) has gamed this all out way in advance... Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #19
Not just Russia jmbar2 Apr 2019 #20
And so was Kavanaugh too Botany Apr 2019 #21
Absolutely shanti Apr 2019 #26
No doubt, that has always been my thinking, many of them are compromised Perseus Apr 2019 #22
Well said. NacLeeFF Apr 2019 #23
of course nini Apr 2019 #24
Bud McFarlane's Trump Tower meeting comes to mind. Lars39 Apr 2019 #25
Nance book in Putin/Russia SMoss Apr 2019 #27
Yes cp Apr 2019 #28
I will just leave this here... WaitWut Apr 2019 #29
There's plenty of reason to suspect this to be the case. yardwork Apr 2019 #30
the only thing.. stillcool Apr 2019 #31
At this point, Barr Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #32
They're all dirty now...and scared. nt SunSeeker Apr 2019 #33
I believe that the GOP has been setting this up for decades. Stonepounder Apr 2019 #34
Who is behind Trump pulling the strings? Lonestarblue Apr 2019 #35
Duh. THe entire GOP leadership is complicit, compliant, and protecting their own asses. Amaryllis Apr 2019 #36
Considering that Michael Flynn's ties with foreign enemies LiberalFighter Apr 2019 #37
I think they are just knee jerk corporate slaves jimlup Apr 2019 #39
They are colluding together to protect their power, their lifestyle, their profits. YOHABLO Apr 2019 #40
Well, just fucking duh.. czarjak Apr 2019 #41
that has been my conjecture from the start anarch Apr 2019 #42

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
38. Occam's Razor
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:01 PM
Apr 2019

I think that as a group, we Democrats perhaps are too sensitive about being labeled conspiracy theorists. Who wouldn’t be after witnessing the stupidity of RWNJs when it comes to QAnon? The problem for us is that many theories involving Trump, Republicans and Russia are in plain view. We ignore them to America’s detriment.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
2. Yes I've been saying this for months. Barr was brought on to protect the establishment. I would
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:40 AM
Apr 2019

not be surprised if he was TOLD to send out that manifesto letter to hook rump the whale. The plan has worked like a charm. rump thinks he is protecting him...but he is protecting the party - and in his mind 'the country'.

Now I don't think the Muller report has all what you say in it but the Republicans need the dirt in this report like they need a hole in their head so yeah they don't want it out regardless and if it gets out it starts opening the cracks.

Faux pas

(14,689 posts)
3. That's what I've thought
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:43 AM
Apr 2019

since the beginning of this fiasco. I'd bet all of the hump's money it's the reason lyin' ryan "retired".

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Yes.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:47 AM
Apr 2019

Complete protection of the unpatriotic Republican party.

Oh yeah, didn't 3 Democrats voted for him too. ugh.

LuvNewcastle

(16,849 posts)
5. I think they're protecting him because they all got Russian money donated
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:49 AM
Apr 2019

to their campaigns. The Republicans didn't like Trump at first, but they were cool with him by the time of the convention. I think they were bought off. The Mueller investigation probably found out about it and they don't want it to be known. Maybe not all of the Republicans were bought, but I think the major players were. I think Paul Ryan quit because he knew it was going to be revealed and he wanted to get out before the big scandal. This is all just speculation, of course, but I think it's a good possibility.

Baitball Blogger

(46,755 posts)
6. Of course he was. And now Trump is trying to rig the IRS to protect his
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:50 AM
Apr 2019

tax returns. What these moves say is that he thinks little about the integrity of the process. Just what you would expect to find among someone who has been a carnival barker his entire life.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
7. Certainly
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:50 AM
Apr 2019

their behavior would lead a reasonable person to conclude that this is distinct possibility.

EleanorR

(2,393 posts)
11. This Barr quote about his support for Iran Contra pardons is flooring
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 11:14 AM
Apr 2019

"I favored the broadest pardon authority," Barr said. "There were some people just arguing just for Weinberger. I said, 'No — in for a penny, in for a pound.' "

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
17. For Sure
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 12:00 PM
Apr 2019

Last edited Sat Apr 6, 2019, 12:48 PM - Edit history (7)

Follow the dirty money from not only Russia but Saudi Arabia and even Addleson's buddies in Israel. Most are compromised by dirty money and that money has strings attached.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
19. and I believe someone(s) has gamed this all out way in advance...
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 12:17 PM
Apr 2019

...The placing of loyalists in every position that could be significant when the shit hit the fan, as they knew it ultimately would.

Even down to the chief attorney for the IRS.

Is this something a mob does? Deploy their mobbed-up loyalists all 'round the regulatory agencies?

And is Russian money backing up all these deployments in terms of paying off people?

Is this how a RICO investigation would find the stooges? Through a money trail from the campaign fund?

The corruption is bigger than we even imagined...

shanti

(21,675 posts)
26. Absolutely
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 12:45 PM
Apr 2019

Let's not forget about him. Trump takes everything and everyone to court. Now is no different, and his protection is well in place now.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
22. No doubt, that has always been my thinking, many of them are compromised
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 12:26 PM
Apr 2019

Loyalty to the buffoon cannot be, I cannot understand why anyone would be loyal to such a repugnant person like the orange buffoon knowing that he would throw them under the bus in one second if he saw fit. The history of republicans is not one of loyalty to anyone but themselves, trump is the mirror of republicans the only difference is that he is a republican to the 10th degree, but they are all the same, narcissistic, disloyal, unpatriotic, hungry for power, liars, corrupt, immoral, lazy, racists, misogynists, bigots, anti-Christians who only use religion as a cover-up, unprincipled, greedy, and a few more...Please complete if I have missed any republican attributes.

nini

(16,672 posts)
24. of course
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 12:34 PM
Apr 2019

This goes very deep - very deep. They need this covered up to protect themselves not just their asshole leader.

SMoss

(112 posts)
27. Nance book in Putin/Russia
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 12:51 PM
Apr 2019

I believe you are right. Read the book on Russian tactics and objectives by Malcom Nance. There objectives are the same as the Kock Bros.

cp

(6,651 posts)
28. Yes
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 12:52 PM
Apr 2019

That's why I always say "45 and his Republican enablers." He'd have gone nowhere without their complicity and protection.

yardwork

(61,698 posts)
30. There's plenty of reason to suspect this to be the case.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 01:03 PM
Apr 2019

We know for a fact that Russian money funneled through the NRA to lots of Republicans, for instance.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
31. the only thing..
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 01:09 PM
Apr 2019

that makes sense to me. I still want to know why those 8 Republicans chose to spend July 4th in Moscow with Russian officials. And then, shortly after Rand Paul found himself there as well. Must be like Disneyland?

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
32. At this point, Barr
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 01:10 PM
Apr 2019

is also there to protect Barr. I think he's already guilty of obstruction of justice.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
34. I believe that the GOP has been setting this up for decades.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 01:14 PM
Apr 2019

They (or their Russian/Chinese handlers) took the long view. They started at the grass roots level getting majorities on town councils, then county offices, then majorities in the statehouses. From there they could gerrymander and get majorities in Congress.

They have absolutely no desire to preserve our Republic. They want to turn the US into an oligarchy like Russia, where they have all the money and power and we are just wage slaves. Get rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. They don't care how fast we die because there is always someone to replace us. It is already happening. While life expectancy is going up in most 1st world countries, it is going down in the US. We rank toward the bottom of 1st world countries in infant mortality. We are going down in happiness. And the GOP is just fine with that.

Back in the 1800's during the heyday of railroad building, if your father was killed working on the RR, the 'retirement benefit' was that the son got his daddy's job.

And, unfortunately, I think the coup is already complete.

Lonestarblue

(10,049 posts)
35. Who is behind Trump pulling the strings?
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 01:27 PM
Apr 2019

When it comes to immigration and dreaming up better ways to create chaos at the border, we know that Stephen Miller is Trump’s man. But Trump did not move in political circles, and I doubt he even knew of William Barr’s existence. Barr is 68 years old. Why would he even want to become AG again? Who convinced him to write that letter to the DOJ? I feel like there’s a hidden hand here manipulating the plot, but who is it? Bannon? McConnell?

LiberalFighter

(51,020 posts)
37. Considering that Michael Flynn's ties with foreign enemies
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 08:43 PM
Apr 2019

suggests that it runs deep in the Republican Party.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
39. I think they are just knee jerk corporate slaves
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:23 PM
Apr 2019

who do what serves their corporate masters. Apparently, Trump still serves their corporate masters enough that they still circle the wagons but I think that could change. Trump is really really fucked up. Even the served corporate elites may become disillusioned.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
40. They are colluding together to protect their power, their lifestyle, their profits.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 11:45 PM
Apr 2019

Money controls everything in this country. Everything. Ronald Reagan tipped his hat to them and said 'let's get to work'.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
42. that has been my conjecture from the start
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:25 AM
Apr 2019

I think there was more than likely information uncovered during the investigation that implicates many Republican lawmakers as well as the GOP as an organization in all manner of corrupt dealings, almost certainly primarily involving the illicit transfer of funds, probably through certain well-known "conservative" lobbying organizations, not least the NRA.

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