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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 05:05 PM Apr 2019

As a Jew... I find Orthodox Jews who support..

Trump with strong numbers absolutely disgusting..
I'm in L.A. watching the news concerning Trump's visit to Beverly Hills to gain more support from conservative /Orthodox Jews.

It makes me just fucking sick.. His lies and his inability to put a sentence together which actually makes sense... never ends! Evident in News Clips today..

But what irks me most is the love he is acquiring from Conservative and Orthodox Jews.
I realize that Jews in general have a foul taste for Trump...Yet I just can't get over the fact that any Jew could support this ill man!

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/trump-neo-nazi-comment-world-leaders-react-241703

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As a Jew... I find Orthodox Jews who support.. (Original Post) busterbrown Apr 2019 OP
I am unsurprised... Iggo Apr 2019 #1
It is very difficullt to fathom, but so too otherwise rational, educated women who support him AND hlthe2b Apr 2019 #2
The enemy of my enemy is my friend? Farmer-Rick Apr 2019 #3
More complicated, aee below. sharedvalues Apr 2019 #5
but he's the enemy of just about everyone & everything else, too.. whathehell Apr 2019 #8
True that. Farmer-Rick Apr 2019 #17
The GOP has a full on propaganda campaign to get Jewish votes sharedvalues Apr 2019 #4
But Isn't Caring About Values Key To A Better Society? Me. Apr 2019 #6
Selective concern about "values" is a Republican hallmark... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #12
She's horrible: just repeats talki points, no insight sharedvalues Apr 2019 #21
Quite Me. Apr 2019 #23
Bari Weiss: a conservatives idea of what a smart person sounds like sharedvalues Apr 2019 #24
They are calling it "Jexodus"... jberryhill Apr 2019 #27
Exactly sharedvalues Apr 2019 #28
I'll never understand how religious people can laugh at refugees and cheer when he calls them animal dawg day Apr 2019 #7
They are not religious - they are hypocriltes demosincebirth Apr 2019 #9
They are "religious," just not spiritual at all... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #13
High priests were called hypocrites by Jesus demosincebirth Apr 2019 #20
I find it absolutely disturbing and disgusting that the GOP is trying to court the Jewish vote. Initech Apr 2019 #10
Dump says Dems are anti-semitic. moondust Apr 2019 #11
He's said it before... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #14
More of the Rep. Omar thing. moondust Apr 2019 #18
As a Jew, I find Rump disgusting as hell ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #15
Do they not know what happened to them the Doreen Apr 2019 #16
Same level of hypocrisy as the evangelicals The Blue Flower Apr 2019 #19
I'm an Orthodox Jew Dazbog Apr 2019 #22
why do some women, AAs, LGBTQ, ect. support trump? Mosby Apr 2019 #25
Yes. Liberal Jesus Freak Apr 2019 #26
usually because they are bigoted against some other group JI7 Apr 2019 #29
My conservative shul and its members don't support Trump sakabatou Apr 2019 #30
Same here karynnj Apr 2019 #34
As a human being Dorian Gray Apr 2019 #31
Jews are far less likely to support Trump Nonhlanhla Apr 2019 #32
What is most amazing... kentuck Apr 2019 #33
Stephen Colbert called at the 3.10 mark in the video below OnDoutside Apr 2019 #35

Iggo

(47,564 posts)
1. I am unsurprised...
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 05:09 PM
Apr 2019

...that orthodox or fundamental anything-or-others eschew what they say they believe in favor of what they actually believe.

hlthe2b

(102,342 posts)
2. It is very difficullt to fathom, but so too otherwise rational, educated women who support him AND
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 05:13 PM
Apr 2019

both men and women who are POC.

It only goes to show that humans are quite often NOT rational.

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
3. The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 05:23 PM
Apr 2019

Trump is an enemy of the Palestinian people and an enemy of most Muslims except those who run feudal governments. So maybe conservative Jews see Muslims as their enemy and Trump as their friend.

Except for the glaring fact that Trump support Nazis who see Jews as their enemy. But I guess a little political power is worth ignoring the Nazi connection. Or they are more afraid of Muslims then they are of Nazis?

Strange times. I suspect it has more to do with money and how they feel safe from Nazi attacks because of their money.

whathehell

(29,082 posts)
8. but he's the enemy of just about everyone & everything else, too..
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 05:55 PM
Apr 2019

Women, children, human decency, etc.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. The GOP has a full on propaganda campaign to get Jewish votes
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 05:39 PM
Apr 2019

Bari Weiss and Bret Stephens at the NYT amplify conservative talking points in EVERY COLUMN. They amplify examples of anti-Semitism on the left. Some are even true. Meanwhile, Trump encourages anti-Semitic violence.

The GOP plot to recruit Jews involves rightwing propagandists, Trump and insane Jews who put power over values like Kushner, Netanyahu, and US Christian evangelicals.

One of the key talking points is that liberal Jews only care about values, not Israel.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. But Isn't Caring About Values Key To A Better Society?
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 05:44 PM
Apr 2019

I find Bari Weiss and her reasoning quite nonsensical whenever she is on Morning Joe.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. They are calling it "Jexodus"...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:31 PM
Apr 2019

...because, and I shit you not, it’s like an “exodus”, but Jewish.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
7. I'll never understand how religious people can laugh at refugees and cheer when he calls them animal
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 05:52 PM
Apr 2019

When refugees were turned away before World War II, it was a historically disgraceful action.
After WWII, there were many thousands of refugees, and yes, some with tattoos, who were given asylum here.

And as for those who call themselves "Christians"-- they must close their eyes and ears here-
Matthew 25:35-40 New International Version (NIV)
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

Initech

(100,099 posts)
10. I find it absolutely disturbing and disgusting that the GOP is trying to court the Jewish vote.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 06:46 PM
Apr 2019

And I'm not Jewish either. Do they really think that the party that made white nationalism and Nazism fashionable again is going to get the Jewish vote because Derangement Syndrome? WTF?

moondust

(20,002 posts)
11. Dump says Dems are anti-semitic.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 06:50 PM
Apr 2019

Just saw him on NBC News pushing this nonsense at a rally today. It's possible he's playing on advice from Farage or somebody as U.K. Labour Party has had some divisive issues lately with accusations of anti-semitism. I don't know much about it.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. As a Jew, I find Rump disgusting as hell
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:00 PM
Apr 2019

And I believe his tactics to lure Jews to the dark side would not work if those Jews did not already possess some sort of proclivity for authoritarian rule.

But, hey, we represent only 2% of the American population. Just how much extra support could he hope to gain?

 

Dazbog

(39 posts)
22. I'm an Orthodox Jew
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:52 PM
Apr 2019

and I hate Trump and Republicans with a passion. I've always thought Jewish Republicans were like Jews for Hitler and Chickens for Col. Sanders.

Liberal Jesus Freak

(1,451 posts)
26. Yes.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:35 PM
Apr 2019

I saw a meme on FB this morning. Salt shaker at the podium, the mob of slugs all shouting “Slugs for Salt! Slugs for Salt!” Some people always seem to vote/support/proselytize for the very things that harm them.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
29. usually because they are bigoted against some other group
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 12:10 AM
Apr 2019

same reason most white people support him.

it's all about bigotry.

it doesn't matter if he is also bigoted against their own group or does nothing for them. they are voting their hatred.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
32. Jews are far less likely to support Trump
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 07:20 AM
Apr 2019

than Christians are. As a Christian, I am deeply saddened by evangelical support for Trump - it marks a betrayal of our faith on so many levels. None of my Jewish friends and colleagues (mostly Conservative Jews) support Trump.

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