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(100,099 posts)But then again they have no shame, no decency, no empathy, anything that makes them human.
Butterflylady
(3,547 posts)but power is an aphrodisiac and they'll cling to it as long as they can.
Botany
(70,567 posts)According to wife # 1, Ivana, Trump kept a copy of Hitlers speeches by his bed. When asked about it Trump said
something like, I dont remember that but if I did then Im sure I didnt read them.
Trump is pushing his racism to the limit to whip up his base in order to distract from Russia putting him into office.
Shanti Mama
(1,288 posts)The animal reference was about M15, over a year ago, not on the border yesterday.
Let's not repost inaccurate "news", please.
DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)trump is a racist. trump has always been a racist. trump will always be a racist. Please don't make excuses for him.
The racist's words speak for themselves.
We better start worrying more about them lowering the bar rather than upholding our high standards while polishing our halos.
Trump Calls Some Unauthorized Immigrants Animals in Rant
"WASHINGTON President Trump lashed out at undocumented immigrants during a White House meeting on Wednesday, warning in front of news cameras that dangerous people were clamoring to breach the countrys borders and branding such people animals.
Mr. Trumps comments came during a round-table discussion with state and local leaders on Californias so-called sanctuary laws, which strictly limit communication between local law enforcement and federal immigration officers, and which the Trump administration is suing to invalidate. It was hardly the first time the president has spoken in racially fraught terms about immigrants, but it underscored his anger about unchecked immigration the animating issue of his campaign and his tenure so far and his frustration that he has not been able to do more to seal the nations borders.
As he has in numerous private meetings with his advisers at the White House, Mr. Trump used the session to vent about the nations immigration laws, calling them the dumbest laws on immigration in the world. He exhorted his administration to do much better in keeping out undesirable people, including members of transnational gangs like MS-13.
We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in were stopping a lot of them, Mr. Trump said in the Cabinet Room during an hourlong meeting that reporters were allowed to document. You wouldnt believe how bad these people are. These arent people, these are animals, and were taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate thats never happened before."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/trump-undocumented-immigrants-animals.html
Shanti Mama
(1,288 posts)The graphic in the original post makes it seem like it was this week.
I'm not excusing the abomination that occupies the white house. I'm saying, let's let accurate facts speak for themselves.
DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)I understand your point but the facts haven't changed. trump has his goebbels now, stephen miller, running immigration and who knows what else?
Everyone says trump decides on his policies based on the last person he talks to. stephen miller is now that person. stephen miller, a pure fucking racist nazi if there ever was one. And to make matters far worse, he should really, really know better.
This is from last year too and it, likewise, has only gotten worse.
Stephen Millers uncle calls him an immigration hypocrite
Trump adviser advocates policy that would have condemned his own Jewish family when they came to US in 1903, says David Glosser
https://www.timesofisrael.com/stephen-millers-uncle-calls-him-an-immigration-hypocrite/
Shanti Mama
(1,288 posts)I still think we should present accurate facts. There's more than enough to condemn that man without conflation.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)If we are to publish these news, then the facts of when it happened and how it happened should accompany the pictures and the statements. This type of information is what republicans will run with to prove Democrats deal with fake news, it can harm more than to help show the evil of the buffoon.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Big huge,gangsters.etc,etc. just this week. He has a pattern of calling them names. That is fact,and he was ranting the same thing this week. He started this 3 years ago.
High standards indeed. Let us call a spade a spade!
Shanti Mama
(1,288 posts)There are so many terrible things he has said and done. Let's stick with those.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)The same terrible things he has been saying for 3 years now.
You choose to concentrate on a couple of words! I do not! Hate is hate and to quibble over when a couple of words were said is one of the reasons Trump is able to spread his racist rants..
I choose not to, your choice to do so.
Shanti Mama
(1,288 posts)I just don't want to spread untruths to the world, to be used against us.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,846 posts)True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Final word.
Fred Sandman
(43 posts)I hate when this happens. Thread trashed! Always check the source and info for accuracy, agents provocateurs are everywhere on the evil net.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
Joseph Goebbels, before and after reaction that the Life photographer taking his pictures is Jewish.
Here's another. Gee, the photographer sort of looks like Stephen Miller too.
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BSdetect
(8,998 posts)world wide wally
(21,754 posts)I'm not sure how you fight that.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)ananda
(28,874 posts).. I had convinced myself I'm not a Nazi.
I really hate being a Nazi.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)I know I am not one. But my Dad remarked he wondered if he was killing cousins. His parents migrated from Hanover. They were strongly family caring. So it bothered him.
Ford_Prefect
(7,917 posts)Trump is nuts and horrible but he's being fed far worse than he's capable of thinking of on his own. Miller's agenda and perverse views need to be made subject to public comment and discussion by Congress and the MSM in the same way De Vos has been.
Given his effect on national security, law enforcement, and policy it seems to me that several Congressional committees should be interested in interviewing him. I think his security clearance would also be in question. How did it get approved when he has such close ties to Spencer and other white supremacists who advocate terror?
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,917 posts)or is embarrassed publicly in front of Congress.
In my view Miller should be tried for Crimes Against Humanity in the World Court at the Hague for authoring the family separation program, and indicted for interfering in the due process of US law by advising Trump specifically to do so, many times.
He is not a legal scholar nor a lawyer. He is a self-promoting PR flack and a Neo-Nazi.
As a speechwriter for Trump, Miller helped write Trump's inaugural address. He has been a key adviser since the early days of Trump's presidency. An immigration hardliner, Miller was a chief architect of Trump's travel ban, the administration's reduction of refugees accepted to the United States, and Trump's policy of separating migrant children from their parents. On February 12, 2017, he appeared to question the power of the judiciary to limit the executive's role in setting immigration policy.
As a White House spokesman, Miller has on multiple occasions made false and unsubstantiated claims regarding widespread electoral fraud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(political_advisor)
SCRUBDASHRUB
(7,252 posts)be here if it weren't for this country (neither would Miller). My late grandfather was the youngest of 13 children, many of whom perished in the Holocaust, and he was able to emigrate.
If it were up to Miller, he would have turn away his own family.
dalton99a
(81,568 posts)IronLionZion
(45,514 posts)and totally turned against his own family and people
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Mr. Trump is trying to sell you something
He sells fear of immigrants, contempt of our daughters, sisters, and wives, and sows discord and anger. He knows the dictators disgraceful sales tricks of challenging the integrity of democratic elections, he finds an unpopular outside group to blame our troubles on, cooks up false electoral fraud theories if he doesnt get his way, threatens and bullies his opponents, and tells us that he is the only one that can lead the nation ahead. Hes trying to sell you something, and its not a good product. For the first time in my memory a major American political partys presidential candidate has proposed that laws and regulations be established solely on the basis of a persons religion and ethnic background. The legitimization of this as a basis of serious political discussion is a terrible step into darkness. Remember, what goes around comes around. If today its "them," then tomorrow it may be you.
~~ David Glosser (Stephen Miller's uncle)
He also mentioned that if what Miller is trying to do had been done when their family came to the USA, they would have been left in Germany to die in the ovens, and Miller would not be here.
spike jones
(1,686 posts)The Holocaust resulted neither from a confluence of circumstances beyond human control nor from historys inexorable march. It happened because ordinary people failed to stop it.
For those on the sidelines:
by @matthewamiller:
"If you've wondered what you would have done in 1930s Germany or during the civil rights movement, congratulations: you're doing it now." You are either doing it right...or you are doing it wrong. Your choice. Me. RESIST!!!!
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)A radio was the only thing they had. Many did not realize what was happening until it was too late.
People were turning on each other, they were killed. We do not have that excuse today!
spike jones
(1,686 posts)by 1941 the people of Germany knew what was being done. See the White Rose papers.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)And by that time families were turning on each other because they knew they would be dead if they complained or told.
Completely different world. I do not have to read nything to know what was happening then. I have known it all my life. I have little brownie pictures of the Concentration camps that members of my family took when they liberated the Camps.
calimary
(81,440 posts)at his bedside?
evilhime
(326 posts)Before I post a fact check link, let me say I despise the man and everything he and his minions stand for and are doing to our country. Comparing people to animals - in all honesty I prefer most animals to what is currently governing our country. alas that is not what he means. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/apr/08/tweets/tweet-leaves-out-context-donald-trumps-animals-rem/ While he said the words the context is not as inferred above. I do not dispute that is really how he thinks (and his puppeteer in charge - Miller) but with the context it is not quite what he said. I fear we hurt our own cause by misquoting or bending what is said. IMHO.
kpete
(72,013 posts)"Trump and Miller are looking to implement a new version of family separations, to force migrant parents to choose between indefinite detention as a family or agreeing to a separation under which...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/09/trump-cruelty-is-point-its-actually-worse-than-that/?utm_term=.7f5d75d8aa30
Link to tweet
Our cause is empoweted by truth and accuracy.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)Associates of Steven Miller have described him as a monster who hates brown people. This vile person has no problem putting little children in pens at the direction of tRump. Years ago an old friend mentioned he was convinced tRump was using the playbook from 1933 Nazi Germany. Steven Miller is the embodiment of that book.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)just like they are today, without stopping it before it was too late. He has already separated the government from the people by insulating himself with leaders who are not approved by congress but are "acting" (on his behalf). It's getting late people and our congress isn't stopping it.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Hekate
(90,774 posts)Answer: cage them. Even pets get crate-trained. Dogs get kenneled. Bad animals get put down. See: the border.
Trump has otherized brown immigrants and POC Americans. He has done so his entire life, and started his campaign with an incredible hate-filled screed against Mexicans.
I understand the concern with accuracy of dates and context, but in this case, the context is all of Trump's public life, and the quote is relevant.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Picking at when Trump said something when he has said variations of the same hate for 3 years now is senseless.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)and contact your local newspaper, radio station, tv station.
wrote letters to editors--
contact your congress critters and tell them to get on THIS and everythig else..
tell your dentist to turn off fox news
debsy
(530 posts)I still think dumpster fire is just that but we have to be accurate in our reporting if we don't want to wind up like FOX.
kacekwl
(7,021 posts)history is repeating itself. Whether he said it today or a year ago is immaterial.
KayF
(1,345 posts)I don't know who Bunch is. I was about to call him a liar for posting this. But I looked through his feed and he seems legitimate. He is affiliated with Philly.com, a mainstream source. There's nothing like this tweet on his feed, he just posts normal news articles and opinion pieces.
I think someone faked this, Notice there's no link to the actual tweet by Bunch, it's just a screenshot. I think it's fake, possibly to discredit Bunch, make him look like a liar.
BigmanPigman
(51,625 posts)when she told me she is reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.