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Notre-Dame this morning... (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author FM123 Apr 2019 #1
Heartbreaking.... jcmaine72 Apr 2019 #2
They need to get tarps covering everything asap to protect from rain/water damage Rene Apr 2019 #10
:) Instead look at at that was saved from the fire. Hortensis Apr 2019 #11
Those firefighters earned and deserve a very special recognition. sarge43 Apr 2019 #12
Thank God they didnt take Idiot's advice and dump tons of water on it from airplanes. honest.abe Apr 2019 #22
There aren't enough electrons in the Time/Space Continuum to detail what's wrong with that "advice". sarge43 Apr 2019 #30
I'm happy that the gorgeous historic windows were saved FakeNoose Apr 2019 #23
Yes. Amazingly, most remain. I was afraid that, Hortensis Apr 2019 #27
+1 dalton99a Apr 2019 #26
Saved? Oh Thank God! calimary Apr 2019 #28
Same here. The firefighters must have doubted also as Hortensis Apr 2019 #32
The one time Trump could use the word»sad» in context DFW Apr 2019 #3
Oh my, there are just not enough words.... FM123 Apr 2019 #4
I feel better seeing these images. redwitch Apr 2019 #5
I feel the same. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2019 #7
They can and will rebuild. Dave Starsky Apr 2019 #8
Remarkably intact. honest.abe Apr 2019 #25
The French and the world can look to the future. madaboutharry Apr 2019 #6
I am a BigOleDummy Apr 2019 #9
Is this an opportunity for Citizens of the US to show their gratitude for the gift received... NeoGreen Apr 2019 #13
Yes! Any idea yet where we could send contributions? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #14
Yes, I would donate to this cause. Lonestarblue Apr 2019 #15
This link was in a Newsweek article. KatyaR Apr 2019 #20
Thanks. Glad to hear they've already had pledges of nearly 500 million euros. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #24
as of this morning melm00se Apr 2019 #18
Yep! Fitting return-of-the-favor. calimary Apr 2019 #29
SO many churches, and other historic buildings, catch fire during renovation. Incredible that FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #16
Looks great. I mean, it's a fixer upper, but the main structure held. pdsimdars Apr 2019 #17
Amazing that they were able to save so much Hulk Apr 2019 #19
Did I read or hear that all the wooden structures did burn on the inside?? a kennedy Apr 2019 #21
Even in devastation, it is still stunningly beautiful jmbar2 Apr 2019 #31

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. :) Instead look at at that was saved from the fire.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:58 AM
Apr 2019

I wanted to use the word "miraculously" given the inferno we watched last night, but I think it's owed to the competent and heroic efforts of France's firefighters.

Just look at that magnificent window alone! The north towers. Even the crown of thorns survived.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
22. Thank God they didnt take Idiot's advice and dump tons of water on it from airplanes.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:37 AM
Apr 2019

That would have likely demolished the entire structure.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
30. There aren't enough electrons in the Time/Space Continuum to detail what's wrong with that "advice".
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:03 AM
Apr 2019

The International Counsel of Village Idiots are taking exception for including Moron among their number.

FakeNoose

(32,636 posts)
23. I'm happy that the gorgeous historic windows were saved
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:41 AM
Apr 2019

It's a miracle, because I assumed the heat from the fire would have ruined them. There will surely be smoke damage though, and the precious artworks and artifacts will need to be examined and cleaned for smoke and ash. This will take a long time, as will the rebuilding of the damaged roof and spire.

I'm sure there will be a fund-raising campaign to help the restoration, and we Americans will be generous, as always.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Yes. Amazingly, most remain. I was afraid that,
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:45 AM
Apr 2019

with France itself so wobbly as right-wing extremists attempt to take over, this might weaken their national spirit. But far more than enough of this world's treasure remains to rally commitment to restore while rebuilding stronger.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
28. Saved? Oh Thank God!
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:53 AM
Apr 2019

The priceless art and relics and statues - the historical significance - gifts to civilization. Of civilization. For, and by civilization. Notre Damn is a World Treasure. I’m so glad those heroic firefighters didn’t let the inferno take it from us.

Yesterday as I watched the coverage I kept thinking about the hell we’re already going through and thought - “and now THIS TOO, on top of everything...”

Those firefighters’ struggles basically told the world “NOPE. NOT this, too.”

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Same here. The firefighters must have doubted also as
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:05 AM
Apr 2019

they fought that holocaust. That poor fire marshall, whatever his actual title is, felt a need in the middle of their battle to prepare the world for losing it.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
3. The one time Trump could use the word»sad» in context
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:03 AM
Apr 2019

And of course he doesn’t, probably because the only Notre Dame he ever heard of is in Indiana.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
4. Oh my, there are just not enough words....
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:05 AM
Apr 2019

I saw the first photo and thought, the exterior looks bad but not as much as I thought it would be - then I saw the interior and my heart just fell.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
5. I feel better seeing these images.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:12 AM
Apr 2019

There is much that remains intact. The rebuilding will take years but it will happen and Norte Dame will still be a beautiful, historic and sacred space.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
25. Remarkably intact.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:43 AM
Apr 2019

I was sick to my stomach yesterday thinking we will never see that beautiful building in its glory again. It now sounds like it can be restored to very close to what it was. Thank God.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
6. The French and the world can look to the future.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:14 AM
Apr 2019

It is heartbreaking to look at the damage today, but the hard work will no doubt begin soon.

There will be a day when Notre Dame is magnificent again.

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
9. I am a
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:50 AM
Apr 2019

Atheist but was heartbroken to see the flames yesterday. Notre Dame is not just a "church" and does not belong to any one sect or religion in my opinion , it belongs to the world.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
13. Is this an opportunity for Citizens of the US to show their gratitude for the gift received...
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:23 AM
Apr 2019

...many years ago?



I think this Atheist will be making a donation to help restore an icon of our fellow French citizens of the world.

Liberté, égalité, fraternité

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
15. Yes, I would donate to this cause.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:34 AM
Apr 2019

It would be great if someone like the Obamas or the Clintons would make a generous donation and then set up a foundation for donations to help rebuild Notre Dame and show our support for an ally.

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
20. This link was in a Newsweek article.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:31 AM
Apr 2019
http://www.notredamedeparis.fr/friends/donate/

Here's the article link:

https://www.newsweek.com/notre-dame-fire-donations-fundraising-damage-repairs-rebuild-billionaires-1397667

They were taking donations for the renovations, but the money will now be used to restore the cathedral.

I plan on donating once I'm back to work.

#risingfromtheashes

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
18. as of this morning
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:54 AM
Apr 2019

The next day, French entrepreneur and billionaire François-Henri Pinault pledged €100 million from his family's investment company, Groupe Artémis. Soon afterward, LVMH owner and billionaire Bernard Arnault and his family pledged another €200 million. The Île-de-France region announced it would allocate €10 million, and the City of Paris declared it would make €50 million available. Patrick Pouyanne, the CEO of Total, the French energy major, told Reuters the company would also donate €100 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_fire#Fundraising_effort

that's almost €500 million

calimary

(81,238 posts)
29. Yep! Fitting return-of-the-favor.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:57 AM
Apr 2019

A transatlantic gift exchange that can now come full circle. I’m gonna contribute.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
16. SO many churches, and other historic buildings, catch fire during renovation. Incredible that
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:37 AM
Apr 2019

there wasn't some plan in place to mitigate that possibility.

Our historic church burned to the ground because the company repainting the steeple used heat guns and torches to soften and scrape the old paint. Old wood has a lower flash point. Once caught, the wooden structure was fully involved in matters of minutes. Gone. Only the bell survived, but cracked as it fell.

Yesterday's tragedy in Paris brought back all those bad memories, and anger.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
19. Amazing that they were able to save so much
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:54 AM
Apr 2019

I had a difficult time sleeping, thinking about this tremendous tragedy. Thank God they were able to save so much with no loss of life? (Not certain of those details yet.)

jmbar2

(4,878 posts)
31. Even in devastation, it is still stunningly beautiful
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:03 AM
Apr 2019

I will donate as well, just to send them some love. Maybe if there is extra, they can handsomely reward the fire crews.

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