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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Rose Window of Notre Dame (La Rosace Nord) appears to have survived.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/apr/15/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-paris-france-landmark-live-newsThere are several rose windows, some may not have made it. I was always fascinated by this one.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2019/apr/16/assessing-damage-notre-dame-cathedral-in-pictures#img-10
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)These are all precious works of art, they're historic artifacts. No modern copy of these stained-glass windows could ever do them justice. In some cases the medieval methods of glass-staining cannot be duplicated now. We don't know the formulas they used to stain the glass. The technology has not been preserved to the modern era.
mopinko
(70,103 posts)i used to do clay, and i had a lot of friends who did woodfiring for the fun/love of it.
and there are def those that know or have researched old glaze recipes from almost that time.
and there are lots and lots of experts in restoring this kind of glass, and crazies at the kiln looking for something different whether new or old.
i hope that as they search for experts, they look to the art world.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)... was considered a "trade secret." Sort of like the recipe for Coca-Cola for example. So it was never written down, and it was only passed from one generation to the next among the glass makers in certain families. With wars, plagues and social/economic problems, the generational chain was broken and the formulas were lost or forgotten.
I'm talking about the manufacture of the colors, not the making of the glass itself. Some of those stain-glass colors cannot be duplicated even today.
mopinko
(70,103 posts)i'm just sayin artists pass down secrets, they understand the process, they experiment for the fun of it.
possible no one now is making those colors, but if it were put out that the contract would go to the person who could come closest to those rare colors, you might find some of the secrets are hiding in plain sight. and where to look for them is w artists.
hell, i bet chihully has produced whatever colors that are supposedly lost.
i would be genuinely curious what, exactly, is not reproducible. and i would put money on someone finding a way to do it.
TheBlackAdder
(28,195 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Really? Are you sure? That's almost unimaginable.
TheBlackAdder
(28,195 posts).
Per wiki, it looks newer than that, though:
One of the earliest organs at Notre-Dame, built in 1403 by Friedrich Schambantz, was replaced between 1730 and 1738 by François Thierry. During the restoration of the cathedral by Eugène Viollet-le-Duc, Aristide Cavaillé-Coll built a new organ, using pipe work from the former instruments. The organ was dedicated in 1868.
In 1904, Charles Mutin modified and added several stops; in 1924, an electric blower was installed. An extensive restoration and cleaning was carried out by Joseph Beuchet in 1932. Between 1959 and 1963, the mechanical action with Barker levers was replaced with an electric action by Jean Hermann, and a new organ console was installed.
During the following years, the stoplist was gradually modified by Robert Boisseau (who added three chamade stops: 8', 4', and 2'/16' in 1968) and Jean-Loup Boisseau after 1975, respectively. In fall 1983, the electric combination system was disconnected due to short-circuit risk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris
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TruckFump
(5,812 posts)MFM008
(19,808 posts)Rose windows survived.
Which may qualify as a miracle....
deminks
(11,014 posts)Amishman
(5,557 posts)The vault was only breached in the center where the steeple collapsed.
Of the four ends of the cathedral, the east end got the worst of it, and lost it's stained glass - but the east is the only end without a rose window.
Raine
(30,540 posts)it could've been so much worse.