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ancianita

(36,220 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:38 PM Apr 2019

Soon it's gonna get ugly. Now it's just exhausting

Deripaska sets up shop in Kentucky,
Lizard releases the Omar, AOC, Cuba, border troops rabbits,
hundreds of WH staff panic,
Barr and Rettig stall Congress,
Stone gets the full Mueller report,
"boys will be boys,"
Dershowitz gets served,
Congress serves subpoenas, slogs through bank records,
17 candidates warm up for Lizard.
Soon it's gonna get ugly. Now it's just exhausting.


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marble falls

(57,490 posts)
1. Like Michelle Obama recently said ...
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:45 PM
Apr 2019

“This may feel like a dark chapter but any story has its highs and lows but it continues. Yes, we are in a low but we have been lower. We have had tougher times, we have had more to fear. We have lived through slavery, the Holocaust and segregation.

“We have always come out at the other end – better and stronger. We are moving in a direction of diversity and inclusion. No-one ever said it would be easy. We are just in the throes of the uneasy path of change.”

ancianita

(36,220 posts)
2. (pulls head out from under faucet) Thanks. (puts head back under)
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:49 PM
Apr 2019

Old girl's going to have a drink, then lie down.

maxsolomon

(33,450 posts)
5. Obama Happy Talk. I appreciate her focus on optimism, but
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:03 PM
Apr 2019

she was wrong about "going high" when they "go low". We lost by taking that tack. We have to face reality.

We are demonstrably NOT "better and stronger" for the experience of having Asshole as POTUS, nor for the debacles and war crimes of the Bush the Lesser Presidency for that matter.

This is a "2 steps back" era; a time of Revanchist gains that could easily last 30 years, the remainder of my (and the Obama's) lifetime, while we wait for this high tide of White Resentment to subside/die off.

ancianita

(36,220 posts)
8. I'm not sure I'll live long enough to see the end of this, and I've played the long game.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:51 PM
Apr 2019

No denoument.

Bettie

(16,147 posts)
9. Wait, I missed something
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:54 PM
Apr 2019

ROGER STONE gets the whole report, but Congress doesn't? When did this happen?

ancianita

(36,220 posts)
10. It was reported on MSNBC this afternoon, with comment by lawyer, Joyce Vance.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:25 PM
Apr 2019

Stone's legal team filed today, under discovery and some other legal term, the entire unredacted Mueller Report because it contains material crucial to their defense.

And they can legally get it. Including the grand jury testimony. Judge Jackson will also get it, since she's handling the case.

EDIT: Oh, wait. It was also noted that Jackson can review the pertinent material. How much she allows them to use is up to her.

WaPo, Washington Examiner, Vox, Axios and Newsweek also report it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-wants-confidential-copy-of-mueller-report-for-his-own-criminal-trial

It's lawyer wars.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. So how come some low life like Stone can get access to the full report, while
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:39 PM
Apr 2019

our representatives in Congress can't? This is so effed up I can't even deal anymore.

ancianita

(36,220 posts)
13. Current judicial proceeding. If the Judiciary Comte began impeachment proceedings, they could
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:44 PM
Apr 2019

immediately get the whole enchilada, too. Because an impeachment proceeding IS defined as a judicial proceeding, too.

A fairly new DU member posted about that fact about four days ago. It really didn't get much traction here, but I was jumping up and down -- it would be a KILLER move.

Nadler and committee might decide to conduct impeachment proceedings if they get further stalled.

Everything will be on the table.

Lawrence Tribe is quoted by the Washington Post about it. Here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-full-mueller-report-could-be-released--if-the-house-opens-impeachment-hearings/2019/04/08/e47fff42-5a14-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html?fbclid=IwAR211go6GdHz4TpUQT6TjF_pwwBlXvBeyxeVSfWPJ2f5wuqjTasPJ_BRKNI&utm_term=.c8974cc34833

ancianita

(36,220 posts)
15. I feel ya. This IS so effed up. We get "news" in cycles that sound solid, but the battles,
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:54 PM
Apr 2019

with operatives creeping out of the woodwork of previous administrations -- like that reptile, William Barr -- remind me of the final battle scene in Lord of The Rings, so many going on all at once...

I feel so much darkness over this democratic house.


Thus, my OP.




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