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Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:16 PM

Rachel is laying it ALL out. There is an unbelievable amount of info in the Report...

You just have to read it and know how to read it -- and she does.

All you who are disappointed in Mueller -- tune in to Rachel. Now. And record her repeat show to catch up to what you are missing now.

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Reply Rachel is laying it ALL out. There is an unbelievable amount of info in the Report... (Original post)
Hekate Apr 2019 OP
donkeypoofed Apr 2019 #1
BadgerKid Apr 2019 #2
spooky3 Apr 2019 #3
dixiegrrrrl Apr 2019 #7
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #4
Still In Wisconsin Apr 2019 #28
Dawson Leery Apr 2019 #5
femmedem Apr 2019 #6
Corgigal Apr 2019 #10
JudyM Apr 2019 #32
Tipperary Apr 2019 #8
NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #9
Tipperary Apr 2019 #11
NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #12
Tipperary Apr 2019 #13
NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #15
Tipperary Apr 2019 #34
Woodwizard Apr 2019 #19
PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #33
jayschool2013 Apr 2019 #20
Hekate Apr 2019 #14
NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #16
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #17
Hekate Apr 2019 #24
BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #18
MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #21
Hekate Apr 2019 #23
johnnyfins Apr 2019 #26
H2O Man Apr 2019 #22
Hekate Apr 2019 #25
NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #27
progree Apr 2019 #29
Hekate Apr 2019 #30
progree Apr 2019 #31
Gothmog Apr 2019 #35

Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:22 PM

1. She's just the right person to explain it to us!!

Looking forward to her show tonight! I wont be able to watch till later but I already cant wait !

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:23 PM

2. Hoping there's a replay online. Nt

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Response to BadgerKid (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:24 PM

3. On tv they rerun her at midnight EDT, if that helps.

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Response to BadgerKid (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:39 PM

7. I catch her shows later in the pm on Youtube.



Youtube is real good about carrying hearings, etc. also, some of them live, some I have wait less than 24 hours for.
Nice to be able to hit "pause" when I need to while watching, as opposed to missing something live if I need a break.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:26 PM

4. This is fascinating. And if anybody thinks this report exonerates Trump, they're insane.

It's actually even worse than I thought it would be (for Trump).

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:44 PM

28. The problem is, LOTS of people think this exonerates Trump.

Of course it doesn't actually exonerate Trump, but we've lost the narrative on this one in the mainstream media... which like it or not really matters.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:26 PM

5. Andy Sullivan needs to go back to Trump.

Maddow will be 1,000,000 times that he will never be.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:34 PM

6. For folks who are missing it

In the first moments of her show, she explained that the report showed that Russian interference began in 2014 before Trump was on anyone's radar as a general attempt to sow discord and undermine our democracy. Then they latched onto Trump as a continuation of that effort.

She then explains that Mueller explains that he's constrained because, according to Justice Department policy, a sitting president cannot be indicted. Therefore, it would be improper to accuse a president of a crime, since the president can't have a trial to clear his name. However, Mueller goes on to say, if the investigation revealed that the president didn't commit a crime, the report would say that. But based on the investigation, the report can't say Trump didn't commit a crime.

It also points out that a president isn't immune from prosecution after leaving office, and that an investigation can be conducted while in office.

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Response to femmedem (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:11 PM

10. Makes you consider

Did Russia latch on to Trump, or set the table?

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Response to femmedem (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:06 PM

32. Thanks for the summary, femmedem!

Way to much going on today to catch up on it, and now I can go to sleep with a bit of a smile.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:40 PM

8. Thanks for this! Where is our lecturer that tells us not to watch cable news lol?

I just bet hes watching too.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:06 PM

9. I think you will find lots here cut the cable and stopped watching TV - we turned it all off 10

years ago, haven't regretted it for a second. Reading here - at DU - fulfills my news needs just fine.

But I don't preach about it - just my/my wife's choice.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:11 PM

11. I watch very little tv, but I think everyone gets to make their own choice.

I have never seen you lecture about it, nor most of the others here who have given it up. Lectures are annoying.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:12 PM

12. thanks - if I ever do get preachy, I would expect to get called out.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:15 PM

13. I agree with you about du being a good news source. Usually, that is where I first hear things.

Then I might tune in to see footage, but du is my go-to usually.

Hey, preach all you want about maters!!!

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:16 PM

15. I would love to be able to do a DU webinar on gardening!

Actually thinking of getting into the webinar thing at some point - I do like to travel to do talks, but can only do so many each spring. THis year was (is) busier than I ever expected...but it is such fun to be around gardeners!

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:19 AM

34. That is a great idea!

Go for it!

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:45 PM

19. We did too

It's been about 20 years we travel for work and my wife will put on the tv in the hotel the pontificating and histrionics are over the top, and its not just Fox news though they are really toxic.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:01 AM

33. I don't have regular TV

or cable. However, I have the internet, and it's possible to watch the Rachel Maddow show that way at the MSNBC website.

I also learned a long time ago that when some kind of serious breaking news happens local TV stations will often go to live coverage, and it's often much better than the Network version. Just Google "TV Stations" + the city or the nearest large city to the breaking news.

I do watch plenty of TV, since I subscribe to some streaming services, and sometimes the various networks will stream what I want.

I also wake up every morning to Amy Goodman.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:54 PM

20. Read your news

It's a suggestion, not a command. By and large, except for breaking news, traditional text-based media is more thorough and more thoughtful. There are exceptions.

Oh, and I was working all day and night, so I wasn't able to watch Rachel, though I wish I had.

Thanks for thinking of me.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:15 PM

14. She calls Vol. 2 a "road map" for Congress re impeachment and for judges re prosecution ...

Her various guests agreed with that characterizarion.

Russia wanted to disrupt America, and was laying plans here in the US in 2014 to kill off Hillary's campaign. Then along came Trump, narcissistic, dumb, and happy, the perfect tool. The day after he announced his campaign vicious "Tea Party" attacks against Hillary were posted, and a Kids for Trump group was announced online.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:18 PM

16. thanks - that's what I heard on several NPR radio shows - I was in the car a lot this evening.

I am just hoping...hoping...hoping that they get him. This whole "can't indict a sitting president" thing sounds like we've ended up with a horrendous king or emperor or dictator. I've had to invent words and emotions to describe how horrendous the asshole and his enablers are.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:35 PM

17. Interesting to the nth degree. But it leads us nowhere

If the choice of 99% of DU is behind Pelosi. She will say no, too divisive, nothing to see here. I would adore her forever more if I was wrong.

Like someone said tonight ..we gotta strike FAST

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:20 PM

24. The world changed today. Subpoenas are going out. Calendars are filling up. However, Spring break...

...is upon us, and Congresscritters will be at home. Barr chose his date well.

Speaking of calendars, if I heard right, Mueller will be at one of the House committees on May 2.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:39 PM

18. Her guest Andrew McCabe was really good too. He confirmed

that Mueller DID purposely lay out a step by step guide for Congress to go to work and get the truth out there.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:58 PM

21. I'm not sure we need a talking head to "know how to read" something for us.

 

That's a major part of why we're where we're at today. People are too lazy to be curious; they let someone on the tube tell them how to think.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:14 PM

23. So you have a printout in front of you at this moment? Dr Maddow does, as do her colleagues...

Do let us know what you think when you have read it.

I would not feel the need for this post if there were not so godsdamned many DUers wringing their hands about "Mueller's betrayal" and the like weeks in advance of anyone outside the Oval Ofdice having seen the damned thing. Talk about swallowing Barr's lies.

If you know what I mean.

Rachel Maddow doesn't tell me what to think, but in all my years of watching her she has seldom if ever pinged my Bullshit Meter. I know what research looks like, and she does hers.

As for the rest of the gang over at MSNBC, the printer and photocopier must have been smoking hot with all the copies they had open in front of them on the table by the camera. It looked and sounded like a high-quality grad school study session.

Your thoughts on the contents?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:25 PM

26. like all good journalists do


"Rachel Maddow doesn't tell me what to think, but in all my years of watching her she has seldom if ever pinged my Bullshit Meter. I know what research looks like, and she does hers. "

Absolutely 100 fing percent in agreement.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:14 PM

22. Recommended.

The report ranks high among the most important documents in American history.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:25 PM

25. I agree it is -- even in its redacted state. It's gratifying how much info is being wrung from it...

...by knowledgable professionals like Frank Figluzzi, Chuck Rosenberg, and the rest.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:28 PM

27. Leave it to Rachel

to call out Barr's egregious lies, using the report itself. We all knew he lied, but Rachel showed just how bald-faced he was, as late as this morning. It's like he didn't expect anyone to read the report, including Congress.

I need to finish reading it tomorrow, especially Volume II.

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:57 PM

29. "There is an unbelievable amount of info in the Report" yeah, but it's not serial axe murdering so

what's the fuss, I guess -- anyway that's essentially what the pundits say -- its not illegal, its not too bad blah blah blah blah blah. Its a political judgement that the voters must decide (heard that on MPR at least ten times in half an hour)

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Response to progree (Reply #29)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:00 PM

30. You may be listening to the wrong pundits

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Response to Hekate (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:02 PM

31. So far today, all I have listened to is Minnesota Public Radio / National Public Radio . very

distressing. Oh, and how brilliantly the admin / Justice Department rolled this out and changed the narrative (to one of no collusion, no obstruction).

I'm not shitting you -- that's what they said!!!! I sure wish it was otherwise !!!!!!

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Response to Hekate (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:32 AM

35. Rachel was amazing last night

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