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Hekate

(90,686 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:16 PM Apr 2019

Rachel is laying it ALL out. There is an unbelievable amount of info in the Report...

You just have to read it and know how to read it -- and she does.

All you who are disappointed in Mueller -- tune in to Rachel. Now. And record her repeat show to catch up to what you are missing now.

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Rachel is laying it ALL out. There is an unbelievable amount of info in the Report... (Original Post) Hekate Apr 2019 OP
She's just the right person to explain it to us!! donkeypoofed Apr 2019 #1
Hoping there's a replay online. Nt BadgerKid Apr 2019 #2
On tv they rerun her at midnight EDT, if that helps. spooky3 Apr 2019 #3
I catch her shows later in the pm on Youtube. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2019 #7
This is fascinating. And if anybody thinks this report exonerates Trump, they're insane. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #4
The problem is, LOTS of people think this exonerates Trump. Still In Wisconsin Apr 2019 #28
Andy Sullivan needs to go back to Trump. Dawson Leery Apr 2019 #5
For folks who are missing it femmedem Apr 2019 #6
Makes you consider Corgigal Apr 2019 #10
Thanks for the summary, femmedem! JudyM Apr 2019 #32
Thanks for this! Where is our lecturer that tells us not to watch cable news lol? Tipperary Apr 2019 #8
I think you will find lots here cut the cable and stopped watching TV - we turned it all off 10 NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #9
I watch very little tv, but I think everyone gets to make their own choice. Tipperary Apr 2019 #11
thanks - if I ever do get preachy, I would expect to get called out. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #12
I agree with you about du being a good news source. Usually, that is where I first hear things. Tipperary Apr 2019 #13
I would love to be able to do a DU webinar on gardening! NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #15
That is a great idea! Tipperary Apr 2019 #34
We did too Woodwizard Apr 2019 #19
I don't have regular TV PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #33
Read your news jayschool2013 Apr 2019 #20
She calls Vol. 2 a "road map" for Congress re impeachment and for judges re prosecution ... Hekate Apr 2019 #14
thanks - that's what I heard on several NPR radio shows - I was in the car a lot this evening. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #16
Interesting to the nth degree. But it leads us nowhere Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #17
The world changed today. Subpoenas are going out. Calendars are filling up. However, Spring break... Hekate Apr 2019 #24
Her guest Andrew McCabe was really good too. He confirmed BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #18
I'm not sure we need a talking head to "know how to read" something for us. MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #21
So you have a printout in front of you at this moment? Dr Maddow does, as do her colleagues... Hekate Apr 2019 #23
like all good journalists do johnnyfins Apr 2019 #26
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2019 #22
I agree it is -- even in its redacted state. It's gratifying how much info is being wrung from it... Hekate Apr 2019 #25
Leave it to Rachel NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #27
"There is an unbelievable amount of info in the Report" yeah, but it's not serial axe murdering so progree Apr 2019 #29
You may be listening to the wrong pundits Hekate Apr 2019 #30
So far today, all I have listened to is Minnesota Public Radio / National Public Radio . very progree Apr 2019 #31
Rachel was amazing last night Gothmog Apr 2019 #35

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
1. She's just the right person to explain it to us!!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:22 PM
Apr 2019

Looking forward to her show tonight! I wont be able to watch till later but I already cant wait !

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. I catch her shows later in the pm on Youtube.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:39 PM
Apr 2019


Youtube is real good about carrying hearings, etc. also, some of them live, some I have wait less than 24 hours for.
Nice to be able to hit "pause" when I need to while watching, as opposed to missing something live if I need a break.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
4. This is fascinating. And if anybody thinks this report exonerates Trump, they're insane.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:26 PM
Apr 2019

It's actually even worse than I thought it would be (for Trump).

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
28. The problem is, LOTS of people think this exonerates Trump.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:44 PM
Apr 2019

Of course it doesn't actually exonerate Trump, but we've lost the narrative on this one in the mainstream media... which like it or not really matters.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
6. For folks who are missing it
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:34 PM
Apr 2019

In the first moments of her show, she explained that the report showed that Russian interference began in 2014 before Trump was on anyone's radar as a general attempt to sow discord and undermine our democracy. Then they latched onto Trump as a continuation of that effort.

She then explains that Mueller explains that he's constrained because, according to Justice Department policy, a sitting president cannot be indicted. Therefore, it would be improper to accuse a president of a crime, since the president can't have a trial to clear his name. However, Mueller goes on to say, if the investigation revealed that the president didn't commit a crime, the report would say that. But based on the investigation, the report can't say Trump didn't commit a crime.

It also points out that a president isn't immune from prosecution after leaving office, and that an investigation can be conducted while in office.

JudyM

(29,246 posts)
32. Thanks for the summary, femmedem!
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:06 AM
Apr 2019

Way to much going on today to catch up on it, and now I can go to sleep with a bit of a smile.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
8. Thanks for this! Where is our lecturer that tells us not to watch cable news lol?
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:40 PM
Apr 2019

I just bet he’s watching too.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
9. I think you will find lots here cut the cable and stopped watching TV - we turned it all off 10
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:06 PM
Apr 2019

years ago, haven't regretted it for a second. Reading here - at DU - fulfills my news needs just fine.

But I don't preach about it - just my/my wife's choice.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
11. I watch very little tv, but I think everyone gets to make their own choice.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:11 PM
Apr 2019

I have never seen you lecture about it, nor most of the others here who have given it up. Lectures are annoying.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
13. I agree with you about du being a good news source. Usually, that is where I first hear things.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:15 PM
Apr 2019

Then I might tune in to see footage, but du is my go-to usually.

Hey, preach all you want about maters!!!

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
15. I would love to be able to do a DU webinar on gardening!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:16 PM
Apr 2019

Actually thinking of getting into the webinar thing at some point - I do like to travel to do talks, but can only do so many each spring. THis year was (is) busier than I ever expected...but it is such fun to be around gardeners!

Woodwizard

(842 posts)
19. We did too
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:45 PM
Apr 2019

It's been about 20 years we travel for work and my wife will put on the tv in the hotel the pontificating and histrionics are over the top, and its not just Fox news though they are really toxic.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
33. I don't have regular TV
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:01 AM
Apr 2019

or cable. However, I have the internet, and it's possible to watch the Rachel Maddow show that way at the MSNBC website.

I also learned a long time ago that when some kind of serious breaking news happens local TV stations will often go to live coverage, and it's often much better than the Network version. Just Google "TV Stations" + the city or the nearest large city to the breaking news.

I do watch plenty of TV, since I subscribe to some streaming services, and sometimes the various networks will stream what I want.

I also wake up every morning to Amy Goodman.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
20. Read your news
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:54 PM
Apr 2019

It's a suggestion, not a command. By and large, except for breaking news, traditional text-based media is more thorough and more thoughtful. There are exceptions.

Oh, and I was working all day and night, so I wasn't able to watch Rachel, though I wish I had.

Thanks for thinking of me.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
14. She calls Vol. 2 a "road map" for Congress re impeachment and for judges re prosecution ...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:15 PM
Apr 2019

Her various guests agreed with that characterizarion.

Russia wanted to disrupt America, and was laying plans here in the US in 2014 to kill off Hillary's campaign. Then along came Trump, narcissistic, dumb, and happy, the perfect tool. The day after he announced his campaign vicious "Tea Party" attacks against Hillary were posted, and a Kids for Trump group was announced online.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
16. thanks - that's what I heard on several NPR radio shows - I was in the car a lot this evening.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:18 PM
Apr 2019

I am just hoping...hoping...hoping that they get him. This whole "can't indict a sitting president" thing sounds like we've ended up with a horrendous king or emperor or dictator. I've had to invent words and emotions to describe how horrendous the asshole and his enablers are.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Interesting to the nth degree. But it leads us nowhere
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:35 PM
Apr 2019

If the choice of 99% of DU is behind Pelosi. She will say no, too divisive, nothing to see here. I would adore her forever more if I was wrong.

Like someone said tonight ..we gotta strike FAST

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
24. The world changed today. Subpoenas are going out. Calendars are filling up. However, Spring break...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:20 PM
Apr 2019

...is upon us, and Congresscritters will be at home. Barr chose his date well.

Speaking of calendars, if I heard right, Mueller will be at one of the House committees on May 2.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
18. Her guest Andrew McCabe was really good too. He confirmed
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:39 PM
Apr 2019

that Mueller DID purposely lay out a step by step guide for Congress to go to work and get the truth out there.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
21. I'm not sure we need a talking head to "know how to read" something for us.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:58 PM
Apr 2019

That's a major part of why we're where we're at today. People are too lazy to be curious; they let someone on the tube tell them how to think.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
23. So you have a printout in front of you at this moment? Dr Maddow does, as do her colleagues...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:14 PM
Apr 2019

Do let us know what you think when you have read it.

I would not feel the need for this post if there were not so godsdamned many DUers wringing their hands about "Mueller's betrayal" and the like weeks in advance of anyone outside the Oval Ofdice having seen the damned thing. Talk about swallowing Barr's lies.

If you know what I mean.

Rachel Maddow doesn't tell me what to think, but in all my years of watching her she has seldom if ever pinged my Bullshit Meter. I know what research looks like, and she does hers.

As for the rest of the gang over at MSNBC, the printer and photocopier must have been smoking hot with all the copies they had open in front of them on the table by the camera. It looked and sounded like a high-quality grad school study session.

Your thoughts on the contents?

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
26. like all good journalists do
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:25 PM
Apr 2019

"Rachel Maddow doesn't tell me what to think, but in all my years of watching her she has seldom if ever pinged my Bullshit Meter. I know what research looks like, and she does hers. "

Absolutely 100 fing percent in agreement.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
25. I agree it is -- even in its redacted state. It's gratifying how much info is being wrung from it...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:25 PM
Apr 2019

...by knowledgable professionals like Frank Figluzzi, Chuck Rosenberg, and the rest.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
27. Leave it to Rachel
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:28 PM
Apr 2019

to call out Barr's egregious lies, using the report itself. We all knew he lied, but Rachel showed just how bald-faced he was, as late as this morning. It's like he didn't expect anyone to read the report, including Congress.

I need to finish reading it tomorrow, especially Volume II.

progree

(10,907 posts)
29. "There is an unbelievable amount of info in the Report" yeah, but it's not serial axe murdering so
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:57 PM
Apr 2019

what's the fuss, I guess -- anyway that's essentially what the pundits say -- its not illegal, its not too bad blah blah blah blah blah. Its a political judgement that the voters must decide (heard that on MPR at least ten times in half an hour)

progree

(10,907 posts)
31. So far today, all I have listened to is Minnesota Public Radio / National Public Radio . very
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:02 AM
Apr 2019

distressing. Oh, and how brilliantly the admin / Justice Department rolled this out and changed the narrative (to one of no collusion, no obstruction).

I'm not shitting you -- that's what they said!!!! I sure wish it was otherwise !!!!!!

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