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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan anyone explain to me
Why the events surrounding the Tower meeting and actual Trump Tower meeting was not prosecuted?
mahina
(17,652 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)Mueller won't "rock the boat" and volunteer this info.
We must get him under oath in a public hearing and ask these questions.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I think they lost interest in that meeting when it was discovered the previously unidentified calls after the meeting were not to trump.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)To seek aid from hostile foreign powers.
Got it.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)He knew.
I'm not buying the "stupid" defense.
And don't you find it odd that a prosecutor offers a defense?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)they didn't have the intent to break the law.
I agree those smirking trump kids and Kushner should have been prosecuted, at least for selling out our country's interest for their personal gain.
Unfortunately, too many ignorant white wingers don't care how trump the Racist-in-Chief got elected. Until a significant portion turn against trump, successful Impeachment (with conviction) -- or even indictments against kids -- are unlikely.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... other nation groups into America's elections.
What's bad is Mueller didn't interview them, how did he know !?!??!
This would be the first question I'd ask Mueller when he gets in front of house
Very first.
But will it be asked?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)apparently.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)mahina
(17,652 posts)ScratchCat
(1,989 posts)Could charges for conspiracy or campaign finance violations be brought? Yes.
Would it be prudent to do so when the Statute for conspiracy requires a tacit agreement and when the campaign finance law requires the receipt of "something of value" when this is very difficult to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt? That is the crux.
And what I believe may have happened is that in this one single area, Mueller decided it would look "too political" and the chances of a conviction were nill, so he didn't go there. Its also possible that some of the data destroyed prevented them from having solid evidence.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Why didn't he spell some of that out instead?
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... which I 100% disagree with.
Not only that there was the "attempted campaign finance" violations, I don't know why that was not in the report.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... Hillary?
There's also the "attempt" here ... if they thought it was of value, and Don Jr DID... then there are elements of attempted campaign finance violations.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)If that's the case than we cannot prosecute obstructing of justice unless there is an underlying crime. This is what Barr believes.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)ScratchCat
(1,989 posts)that they couldn't identify a Federal Statute that was clearly broken.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)What about intent?
Also, sting operations use props many times. They have no "provable value" either.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... crazy !!!
Then it goes into intent and something of value.
Like you said, all someone has to do now is say "I didn't know that was illegal and you have no proof I knew" and that persons colluding with another country is legal.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)See if you can get your fine doubled.