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Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:11 AM

 

An under-educated television culture population

It's America's stupidity that will be our downfall.

The vast majority will roll their eyes at details.
They don't read.
They don't think critically.

I'm worried that the propaganda will override the truth revealed in investigations.
It's how he got in office.

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SHRED Apr 2019 OP
Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #1
lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #2
SHRED Apr 2019 #3
trev Apr 2019 #13
SHRED Apr 2019 #16
cynatnite Apr 2019 #5
lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #6
cynatnite Apr 2019 #8
bigbrother05 Apr 2019 #7
empedocles Apr 2019 #4
SMC22307 Apr 2019 #9
trev Apr 2019 #17
SMC22307 Apr 2019 #18
trev Apr 2019 #20
Ferryboat Apr 2019 #10
roamer65 Apr 2019 #11
FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #12
Books_Tea_Alone Apr 2019 #14
moondust Apr 2019 #15
monmouth4 Apr 2019 #19
AwakeAtLast Apr 2019 #21

Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:13 AM

1. +1000

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:16 AM

2. When we first attempted this democratic experiment, we were relatively better educated.

Now, our minds are addled with Big Brother, Dr. Phil, Housewives of Nobody Important ,and the Kardashians.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:21 AM

3. I know very little about pop culture

 

I think I'm better for that.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:35 PM

13. I'm still stuck in the 1960s.

I've never gotten into the smartphone/social media obsession of today's culture. I don't play video games. I read serious books and watch independent films.

I miss the Counterculture.

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Response to trev (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:46 PM

16. I miss it also

 

And good for you!

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:23 AM

5. When it was the white men who were educated? n/t

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Response to cynatnite (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:26 AM

6. And voted. The men who thought up this system were far, far better able to understand it than 90%

of the 21st century electorate.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:34 AM

8. Oh, yeah, we couldn't vote then and slave life sucked. Got it. n/t

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:28 AM

7. The Electoral College was to allow the informed to override the masses

The Electors were intended as single use officeholders to guard against populist hiccups.

The Voice of Reason has been replaced by The Voice, a 21st Century Fox Production.

BTW - have no clue which network airs The Voice.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:22 AM

4. It takes time to educate and move political cultures. Politicians like Pelosi know this.

Look at what it took for the heroic, popular FDR to engage the American culture into WWII. FDR knew he needed a unified, aggressive public behind the war effort. Timing was so crucial. Pearl Harbor was the 'attention' getting turning point - of a long, much needed process.

Pelosi knows the time is not yet right. Yes, there is continuing damage and future great damage, [like Germany and Japan rampaging], but the good politicians work to win 'the big ones'.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:41 AM

9. Once upon a time the American labor force voted for Democrats.

Many weren't "educated" beyond junior or senior high so I don't think it's so much an issue of "education." The Democratic Party delivered for them. Since, the Rust Belt has been destroyed and many switched allegiance. We're being killed by right-wing media funded by right-wing billionaires, prosperity gospel preachers, bought-and-paid-for GOPers, the NRA, etc. And many American voters believing that Democrats won't do anything for them. We've GOT to change that.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:55 PM

17. Yes, but until Johnson

the Democratic Party was the modern Republican Party. The Democratic Political Machines ran roughshod over the voters. The best known of these was New York's Tammany Hall in the 1920s.

We forget that it was the Civil Rights Act that turned the Democratic Party into what it is today. The Republicans merely transferred their tactics to the new regime.

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Response to trev (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:01 PM

18. You're entirely skipping over Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt...

and the rise of the middle class.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:41 PM

20. True. Didn't think about that....

But the New Deal was not intended to create the middle class. It was an attempt to save the banks and create jobs. The subsequent rise out of the Depression--stimulated by WWII--resulted in the newfound middle class.

You may be right that this was the initial turning point for the Dems, but the party didn't really get initiated into its current incarnation until the 1960s.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:49 AM

10. When TV first was available

Only the well to do could afford it. Programming was mostly high brow plays, thought provoking. It was only later when the cost came down that the general population owned one. Programming started trending toward more simplistic.

TV was a great idea at first, but also a squandered opportunity.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 AM

11. Think Roman Empire.

It became lazy and stupid as well.

What eventually extended it was splitting it in two. The eastern half lasted another 1000 years, the Byzantine Empire.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:27 PM

12. Propagandists have caused this

It's not just laziness or complacency.

Preachers, hate-radio personalities, and GOP politicians (as well as their co-conspirators in the news business), have been preparing this for decades.

We will not solve anything until we address that.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

14. Low-Information voters

Anecdotally, the people I know voted for the reality Apprentice star. They feed on an appetite of Kartrashians, Housewives and nonsense tv shows. You cannot discuss books, thought provoking films, relevant social issues with them. They are always distracted by the new shiny object and glom onto celebrity and 5-minute fame.
This is how we got this criminal clown in office- no one cared about his baggage only his fake "success" in business- and of course a hefty dose of racism.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

15. All lies and jests

Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

The Boxer - Paul Simon, 1968

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:03 PM

19. I remember looking at an old test my dad had to take in 8th grade. It was definitely college level.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:39 PM

21. Idiocracy n/t

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