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Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:45 PM

Mueller report sparks new DC war over Russia probe: Subpoenas, payback and more

The public release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on Thursday marked the dramatic final note of a lengthy and contentious investigation, but also sparked a tinderbox of new calls for subpoenas, congressional testimony, resignations, and even impeachment proceedings -- all despite the probe's central finding that no evidence showed that President Trump's team "coordinated or conspired" with Russia.

The whirlwind moments kept coming, even hours after the report's release, as more and more revelations from the 448-page document trickled out. The White House, for its part, claimed total victory and vindication for the president who, according to the report, once fretted that the special counsel's appointment marked the "end" of his presidency and that he was "f---ed" beyond the possibility of redemption.

"As I have been saying all along, NO COLLUSION - NO OBSTRUCTION!" Trump wrote on Twitter.

Wrote journalist Glenn Grenwald on The Intercept: "Robert Mueller Did Not Merely Reject the Trump/Russia Conspiracy Theories. He Obliterated Them."


Remember all the Glenn Greenwald supporters who used to post here?

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Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:02 PM

1. Wrong, the report did NOT say there was "no evidence" of conspiracy.

It said there was "insufficient" evidence to prove conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt. Big difference. Mueller thought the evidence was insufficient because Mueller could not prove scienter, i.e. he thought Trump, Don Jr. were too stupid to know they were breaking the law (a novel defense!) and he did not find documentary evidence of an explicit agreement to conspire (something DOJ never required to charge conspiracy against mob bosses!). However, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence of an agreement and knowledge that what they were doing was illegal (why else all the LYING about it?). And circumstancial evidence is used to convict people all the time. Honestly, I think Mueller is dead wrong here and chickened out on coming to the obvious conclusion that there was a conspiracy. But Mueller found LOTS of evidence of conspiracy. LOTS. Read the report, even redacted, it lays out literally hundreds of instances of Trump and his campaign coordinating with Russians and Wikileaks to influence the election.

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