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Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 12:59 AM Apr 2019

What could be done to encourage Kentucky to dump McConnell?

Maybe Tom Steyer ought to take his money there, for a cause as good as impeaching Trump.

Are the demographics in Kentucky so rigid that dumping Mitch is impossible?

Do the voters there know about his deep corruption?

Could a challenger get any traction?

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What could be done to encourage Kentucky to dump McConnell? (Original Post) Grasswire2 Apr 2019 OP
Let's just take back the Senate and make Mitch irrelevant struggle4progress Apr 2019 #1
Mitch McConnell has about a 25% approval rating in Kentucky Poiuyt Apr 2019 #2
He will keep getting re-elected as long as there is an Eastern Kentucky leftofcool Apr 2019 #9
Mitch is originally from Alabama but one of his opponents may be from Eastern KY... kentuck Apr 2019 #22
Tell Kentuckians McConnell has an African-American boyfriend misanthrope Apr 2019 #3
Because the truth about him being a Russian asset makes no difference to them ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #34
I moved here, Corgigal Apr 2019 #4
That's good info to know. Thanks! BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #6
Schumer is trying to get Amy McGrath to kick over turtle's shell Celerity Apr 2019 #14
I voted for her against Corgigal Apr 2019 #19
She was impressive! smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #38
The existence of McConnell and what other posters have pointed out about Kentucky begs the obvious: PufPuf23 Apr 2019 #5
the problem there is the perception of Dems as coastal elites. Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #7
The perception of Red Staters and rural USA needs and should be changed. PufPuf23 Apr 2019 #10
The conclusion to all that blather is the Democratic party needs to go strong into PufPuf23 Apr 2019 #13
adds larwdem Apr 2019 #8
Education ? OnDoutside Apr 2019 #11
Get Dolly Parton to kick his ass lame54 Apr 2019 #12
Dolly is from Tennessee, not Kentucky. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #26
My apologies to all from Tennessee lame54 Apr 2019 #33
I hate to say it, but a Howard Schultz type of candidate... BluegrassDem Apr 2019 #15
I have no idea. Kentucky seems like a lost cause. When you've got a bunch of people who Vinca Apr 2019 #16
Find a tape of him trashing UK basketball or football DeminPennswoods Apr 2019 #17
Prove he fathered an African American child? maxrandb Apr 2019 #18
Dead Girl/Live Boy hatrack Apr 2019 #20
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez plans to visit Kentucky fescuerescue Apr 2019 #21
A Dem in the House or Senate should open an investigation on him and Russia... cbdo2007 Apr 2019 #23
I also thought of that. Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #25
Back when Rand Paul first ran for Senate.... RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #24
Booze, Bourbon and George Clooney, maybe appalachiablue Apr 2019 #27
well, if we could get a Democrat to be SoS.... Takket Apr 2019 #28
The Kentucky Secretary of State is a Democrat, Alison Lundergan Grimes. Tanuki Apr 2019 #35
fantastic! Takket Apr 2019 #36
How corrupt is the vote-counting in KY? fierywoman Apr 2019 #29
We have never haad any problems in our small county leftofcool Apr 2019 #30
Sounds like a Beto-type campaign might have an effect... fierywoman Apr 2019 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author denbot Apr 2019 #32
As my 16 year old daughter says, Kentucky is a beautiful state full of ugly people Buckeyeblue Apr 2019 #37

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
2. Mitch McConnell has about a 25% approval rating in Kentucky
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:08 AM
Apr 2019

That doesn't mean he'll be voted out, but at least we can say he has some vulnerabilities.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
9. He will keep getting re-elected as long as there is an Eastern Kentucky
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:52 AM
Apr 2019

This is a red state. Unfortunately, he isn't going anywhere. Do the people like him? No. Will they vote for him? Yes

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
22. Mitch is originally from Alabama but one of his opponents may be from Eastern KY...
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 12:47 PM
Apr 2019

...Matt Jones, if he chooses to run, is from Middlesboro, near Cumberland Gap.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
34. Because the truth about him being a Russian asset makes no difference to them
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 05:45 PM
Apr 2019

I can't believe the number of traitors who vote for this scum.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
4. I moved here,
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:19 AM
Apr 2019

and haven't met anyone who claims to have voted for McConnell. Also the current governor.

We need a young candidate to run against this old hack. I think, maybe I can rent out the garage to people to get residency. Just be sure to vote. I live in the blue areas, they exist.

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
14. Schumer is trying to get Amy McGrath to kick over turtle's shell
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 04:29 AM
Apr 2019

Schumer recruits famed fighter pilot to challenge McConnell in 2020



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/12/schumer-amy-mcgrath-1167184

Chuck Schumer is actively recruiting a high-profile fighter pilot to take on Mitch McConnell in 2020 — a calculated act of aggression against a leading Republican foe.

Schumer met with Amy McGrath, a Marine veteran-turned 2018 congressional candidate, at Democratic Party headquarters last month to pitch her on running against McConnell. McGrath listened and didn’t rule it out. The Democratic leader first contacted McGrath in December.

McConnell, the longest-serving Senate GOP leader, is gearing up for a reelection fight and leaving little to chance. His political team has begun compiling opposition research on McGrath and delving into video tracking footage of her. On Wednesday, senior Republican Party officials involved with a pro-McConnell super PAC will meet in Washington to begin mapping out a potential campaign against McGrath.

The Republican leader has also tapped a 2020 campaign manager: Kevin Golden, a veteran party operative who worked on McConnell’s 2014 reelection bid and oversaw Tennessee Republican Marsha Blackburn’s successful 2018 Senate campaign.

snip

dirty fuckers

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
19. I voted for her against
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:23 AM
Apr 2019

silly congressman Barr. She only lost by 2 percent. I would again for any seat, just announce please.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
38. She was impressive!
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:15 PM
Apr 2019

I hope she tries again. Other than McConnell's dirty tricks there is no reason she shouldn't wipe the floor with his flabby, white ass.

PufPuf23

(8,775 posts)
5. The existence of McConnell and what other posters have pointed out about Kentucky begs the obvious:
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:27 AM
Apr 2019

The Democratic party in preparation for the future and specifically the 2020 election needs to go all out in outreach and (potential) service to Red State and rural USA. A strong Democratic presence is necessary to win the Senate and electoral college. FDR was extremely strong in rural USA and that position has been allowed to erode ever since. Regardless of Trump or anything else we need to bring these voters and potential voters, especially young voters, to our side of the aisle.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
7. the problem there is the perception of Dems as coastal elites.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:46 AM
Apr 2019

Red staters hate coastal elites more than they like Trump, and will do anything to smack Dems down for that reason.

As I've said previously, if Dems could reframe as the party of FDR, the party of workers and unions and bread and butter issues --returning to the righteous history of the Democratic Party -- we could get traction among independents and even some Republicans.

PufPuf23

(8,775 posts)
10. The perception of Red Staters and rural USA needs and should be changed.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 02:45 AM
Apr 2019

Part of the problem is the very attitude of "coastal elites" and urban folks regards rural USA.

Red States and rural USA are far from monolithic. There are Democrats of all flavors (liberal, leftist, progressive and moderate). They are ignored and not supported well by the national party.

I live in eastern Humboldt county on the north coast of California, an extremely rural area with at least 50% Native American population. This was my childhood home and my home in old age but I left for university and have lived much of my working adult life in the SF Bay Area, Redding, and Portland and Corvallis, OR; except for Redding, liberal Democratic dominated areas.

In the 2016 POTUS primary and general election I did not see a single local sign or bumper sticker for HRC, I did not receive a mailer nor a phone call from HRC nor the Democratic party.
There was essentially zero effort in this and adjacent zip codes by the Democratic party. I have been registered and voted Democratic since 1971 and have never voted for any candidate that was not Democratic (except for 1980 CA POTUS primary voted for John Anderson as a direct vote against Reagan). I sent $1000 to POTUS Obama. In the POTUS primary Sanders was first and HRC 2nd, both far ahead of Trump and HRC did win the POTUS in Humboldt county but it turned out much closer and I strongly suspect the vote local to me was overwhelmingly Trump. I am actually not that befuddled as to why many people especially the Native Americans voted for Trump even though it was a poor decision on their part. One would be amazed about how much education there is among the local population, not in the oldest and "Boomers" (like me) but in those that came here to work for the government and stayed or came as part of the back to land movement (and their children) and many younger NAs have various degrees and work for the three local Tribes (two nearby Reservations and where I am is "Ancestoral Territory" for a 3rd Tribe within National Forest.

There is an element of local distrust towards the government towards the US Forest Service and Bureau of Indian Affairs and more recently county planning. At the county level, the candidates for any party do not visit nor address the area even for the one of 5 county Districts where we are included.

My Dad and I never saw eye to eye on politics; part was the times (Vietnam) and part was I wanted to leave (and did) where he was born and spent his entire life except WWII. But he hated the Feds and gave money to the Bushes (and Dole), loved Reagan yet also loved FDR. He would be a Trump supporter if he was still alive.

There was a CCC camp here in the 1930s. That CCC camp is fading into history now but it was beloved and brought local people together and brought in the outside world, not like the other subsequent government institutions that treated the area like a colony to extract natural resources (mining, timber, fish). There was much more tourism. The last 4 men that came here with the CCC (and stayed) passed on 10-15 years ago. The evidence of the CCC work is all over in roads, camp grounds, etc. that were built. In the past 20 years the Feds have put much money in improving the NA situation (housing, clinics, natural resource programs). There was much more tourism. Now besides the Tribes and a skeleton crew at the USFS, the main source of income is the now legal marijuana (which really isn't working out that well for locals). The town cannot support a decent store and there is not even a restaurant nor motel or resort now. But there are endless projects that could be done in environmental restoration (nearby has been subject to forest fires) and as part of a green new deal (like what was the CCC).

Part of the problem is the very attitude of "coastal elites" and urban folks regards rural USA.

PufPuf23

(8,775 posts)
13. The conclusion to all that blather is the Democratic party needs to go strong into
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 02:55 AM
Apr 2019

Red State and rural USA.


Make them a thriving part of the USA, offer programs provided by the Democratic party that provide for their wants and needs and deliver with respect.

There are dead enders but they mostly will be going extinct anyway.

This is how to rid ourselves of McConnell and those others like them. This is also how to bring younger people to our side.

larwdem

(758 posts)
8. adds
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:46 AM
Apr 2019

Put adds out saying Mitch is married to a china girl. All we need to do is tell the truth.
GOP hates foreigners. Evan if they are American citizens.

 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
15. I hate to say it, but a Howard Schultz type of candidate...
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 04:56 AM
Apr 2019

someone with a load of money and not affiliated with politics. It would take someone out of the box to beat McConnell. The Dem bench in Kentucky is not that big. Amy McGrath won't cut it. She couldn't even win in a winnable swing district during a blue wave. Not sure how the heck she will win in the rest of the state where it's Alabama north. I have no idea why Schumer is fascinated with her. She's a very poor campaigner and tactician.

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
16. I have no idea. Kentucky seems like a lost cause. When you've got a bunch of people who
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:16 AM
Apr 2019

love "KYnect, " but hate "Obamacare" . . . If they were halfway normal, I might suggest exposing the family finances, the Russia ties and padding the coffers off the backs of the peons. But a large chunk of them not only don't pay attention, they're drooling, slobbering, cult members who kneel at the feet of the giant orange turd. We need to take back the Senate and put Mitch back where he's most comfortable: complaining and cashing checks from lobbyists.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
23. A Dem in the House or Senate should open an investigation on him and Russia...
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:30 PM
Apr 2019

just the imagery of him being under investigation is enough to put him in a bad light and may be enough to sway the public away from him.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
24. Back when Rand Paul first ran for Senate....
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:51 PM
Apr 2019

....Chris Matthews was at the UofK in Lexington for Hardball.

There was a young woman there with a Rand Paul sign.

Chris asked her why she supported Paul. She replied, "Well for one thing he believes in term limits. We need these career politicians gone".

Chris replied "Oh, so you'd like to see Mitch McConnell gone then?"

The sheepish grin on her face that she'd just been outed told it all.

He's a Rethug. That's all that matters.

Takket

(21,565 posts)
28. well, if we could get a Democrat to be SoS....
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:23 PM
Apr 2019

we could just purge the mcconnel voters off the rolls. It worked in Georgia for kemp

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
35. The Kentucky Secretary of State is a Democrat, Alison Lundergan Grimes.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 05:46 PM
Apr 2019

She unsuccessfully challenged Moscow Mitch in his most recent Senate race.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
30. We have never haad any problems in our small county
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:32 PM
Apr 2019

here have been a few instances of late starts, machines breaking down etc... But I have never heard of outright corruption. Oddly enough, there are more registered Democrats in Kentucky than registered Repukes. They don't come out to vote.

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