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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:10 AM May 2019

Donald Trump's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

Trump can tolerate and even revels in all manner of criticism.

But one thing he cannot stand is to be laughed at or mocked as a nothing, especially when it comes to his financial worth, which he sees as the only real proof of his manhood.

Today, he's being laughed at and mocked up one side and down the other after it was revealed to the world that the Little Emperor not only has no clothes, he's also a financial eunuch.

This one's gonna leave a mark.

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Donald Trump's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day (Original Post) StarfishSaver May 2019 OP
You're right jcgoldie May 2019 #1
And you are right, as well! StarfishSaver May 2019 #4
"...that the Little Emperor not only has no clothes, he's also a financial eunuch." Lars39 May 2019 #2
I always figured that's why he wears such LOOOOOONNNNNG neckties. calimary May 2019 #13
Me, too. Lars39 May 2019 #15
He's probably below being broke even. If you have 1m but owe 2m you're in negative... brush May 2019 #31
Right, I'm going to steal that one. Laffy Kat May 2019 #36
Financial Eunuch! lol. Solid Burn. donkeypoofed May 2019 #3
+1 Financial Eunuch may be his new name. lagomorph777 May 2019 #7
It should be! pandr32 May 2019 #11
Should be said, Read, and SPREAD. calimary May 2019 #14
This means nothing Cartoonist May 2019 #5
But, they voted for him because he's a "Good Businessman" ... aggiesal May 2019 #18
I don't think so. Magoo48 May 2019 #28
Exactly! rusty fender May 2019 #32
That's how they feel ... aggiesal May 2019 #33
Yes🧐 Magoo48 May 2019 #41
True. He'll say that using losses to offset revenue is big bizness..he IS very rich. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #25
Talking about him losing money, not the crimes he committed... HopeAgain May 2019 #6
He just admitted to tax fraud. That just adds another crime to the pile. lagomorph777 May 2019 #8
No, he didn't. That's the tax code. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #26
Inflated value on bank forms; deflated value on tax forms. lagomorph777 May 2019 #37
If it can be proven, yes. But on the face of the return...no. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #38
Michael Cohen testified that he deflated assets and earnings for taxes StarfishSaver May 2019 #44
I have my seatbelt fastened and my plastic poncho handy! ...nt 2naSalit May 2019 #9
I have my passport ready. Lifelong Protester May 2019 #48
That too! 2naSalit May 2019 #50
I think so too Brainstormy May 2019 #10
The trumpsters don't care what he does or his financial worth. None of it matters to them. 33taw May 2019 #12
True enough. And I think I understand why. calimary May 2019 #17
Rich man Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #22
THIS shanny May 2019 #27
The only thing Trumpsters would find MUCH worse sop May 2019 #47
They had to take his twitter machine away from him today ... aggiesal May 2019 #16
Financial Eunuch. F.E. 3catwoman3 May 2019 #19
Or, Donald Trump BS, FE. dchill May 2019 #30
Ooh, i like yours... 3catwoman3 May 2019 #34
Don't tell me those aren't the real meanings! dchill May 2019 #35
He doesn't want it known because it explains how exposed he was Jarqui May 2019 #20
Biden a career politician was so broke Obama offered to loan him money to prevent Joe Pepsidog May 2019 #21
Where did you hear that? StarfishSaver May 2019 #24
I just fact checked my own post. In an interview with CNN some time ago, Biden Pepsidog May 2019 #39
Nice StarfishSaver May 2019 #43
That was a beautiful gesture on Obama's part. nt oasis May 2019 #45
He's doing fine now marlakay May 2019 #42
I wish I could believe that. No progress on Muiller Report/Impeachment Hearings Good day for him themaguffin May 2019 #23
Businessman for President? RicROC May 2019 #29
Rec for "financial eunuch" Stinky The Clown May 2019 #40
K&R Scurrilous May 2019 #46
That "I'm an Evangelical" thing is on solid ground though. czarjak May 2019 #49
My guess is the the POS POTUS will be siccing his top IRS goons MadLinguist May 2019 #51

jcgoldie

(11,645 posts)
1. You're right
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:17 AM
May 2019

That's why his immediate reaction is it was a "sport." He's saying he's a cheater not a loser. Unfortunately most of his followers are so anti-government after ten years of tea party bullshit that they celebrate cheating the IRS.

Lars39

(26,116 posts)
2. "...that the Little Emperor not only has no clothes, he's also a financial eunuch."
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:20 AM
May 2019

Excellent description!

brush

(53,857 posts)
31. He's probably below being broke even. If you have 1m but owe 2m you're in negative...
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:50 PM
May 2019

territory. With all those hotels and golf courses, there's got to be money owed to someone. I don't think he paid cash. Someone...er, ah Russian oligarch...fronted him the money. And we all know those oligarchs are controled by Pootie, thus trump is controlled by Pootie.

But most of us here knew that much already.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
3. Financial Eunuch! lol. Solid Burn.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:21 AM
May 2019

That's hilarious! Thanks for making me laugh. Between this and some DoDo videos (animals) that DU'ers post links to here, it'll help keep me sane today. I worry for democracy.

Cartoonist

(7,323 posts)
5. This means nothing
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:22 AM
May 2019

Lots of posts here lately celebrating the news. I don't think it will change anything. America already knew he was a serial bankruptcy filer. He's still a racist, and that's all that matters to repubs.

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
18. But, they voted for him because he's a "Good Businessman" ...
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:43 AM
May 2019

This should put them in their place. NOT!

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
33. That's how they feel ...
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:58 PM
May 2019

What they say, is that they voted because we need
a businessman to run our country.

I believe we are both correct!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. True. He'll say that using losses to offset revenue is big bizness..he IS very rich.
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:41 PM
May 2019

He would be right, generally speaking. It's not unusual for investors to use losses and such to offset taxes. The tax code was written for guys like that.

However, I think it's unusual for this to be the case EVERY year, for several years. That seems to indicate someone who's not good at business, to have that much in losses.

But no matter what, his followers are dug in. They're invested in him. Whatever he says, no matter how obviously silly or false, is enough for them to hang their MAGA caps on.

It's at the point where what he says isn't an explanation so much as it is a code to his followers of what he wants THEM to say in response to criticism of Trump. Like Cohen said, Trump gives codes more than he really talks like a normal person.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
6. Talking about him losing money, not the crimes he committed...
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:23 AM
May 2019

What Mueller report? It really hasn't been such a bad day for him.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. He just admitted to tax fraud. That just adds another crime to the pile.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:28 AM
May 2019

Not a happy day at all for President Turd.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. No, he didn't. That's the tax code.
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:43 PM
May 2019

You can use losses of other properties, or from other years, to offset your income in the current year.

But I would bet a bundle that there IS fraud in there...Cohen said Trump would give false values of properties, for instance, for tax purposes. That's fraud.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. If it can be proven, yes. But on the face of the return...no.
Wed May 8, 2019, 02:26 PM
May 2019

Not paying any tax by using losses or whatever was used, is legal. You'd have to audit it, and prove that parts of it were based on lies.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
44. Michael Cohen testified that he deflated assets and earnings for taxes
Wed May 8, 2019, 03:40 PM
May 2019

and inflated them for loans.

Either way, it's fraud and a crime.

And it can be easily proven since any discrepancy is evidence that one or both are false.

33taw

(2,447 posts)
12. The trumpsters don't care what he does or his financial worth. None of it matters to them.
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:32 AM
May 2019

They don’t care if he is religious - he is the savior.

There is nothing he can do or fail to do that will matter to them.

sop

(10,245 posts)
47. The only thing Trumpsters would find MUCH worse
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:24 PM
May 2019

is if Trump changed his views on race, immigration and guns.

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
16. They had to take his twitter machine away from him today ...
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:40 AM
May 2019

He might type something incriminating, ... on the record, ... again!

3catwoman3

(24,042 posts)
34. Ooh, i like yours...
Wed May 8, 2019, 01:02 PM
May 2019

...even better!

I always get a chuckle out of the explanation of the “real” meaning of bachelor, master and doctoral degrees:

BS - Bull Shit
MS - More Shit
PhD - Piled Higher and Deeper

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
20. He doesn't want it known because it explains how exposed he was
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:21 PM
May 2019

to the Russians taking control of him and provides a motive.

Donald Trump and the mansion that no one wanted. Then came a Russian fertilizer king
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html

Donald Trump stands in front of 515 N. County Rd., the estate he bought at auction for about $41 million, renovated and then sold in 2008 at a recorded $95 million


Trump saw what they did to Manafort and Cohen with their financial records - nailed them and put them in prison. His financial records will do the same thing because you can't play semantics with numbers. You can lie, cheat, defraud, etc with numbers. But a lot of that goes away when you have the real records and it becomes very hard to defend as Manafort and Cohen found out.

These 1985-1995 $2 billion in losses may well be overstated for tax evasion reasons. People with money will throw money into a losing entity to take on paper losses that can save them taxes in their holding company for example. Cohen testified that they would do one thing with their financial numbers (inflate) to get loans (bank fraud) and another to avoid taxes (deflate for tax evasion).

If they get into his financial records, I think he's finished.

I still feel like the GOP are playing us. They know how the chips are going to fall. It's all about timing for the 2020 election and making it look like someone else took him out to their base. Or, if he survives playing all the stall tactics, they can primary him or run a third candidate. The GOP have cheated or tried to cheat nearly every key election of my lifetime. I don't think they're going to do any differently this time around.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
21. Biden a career politician was so broke Obama offered to loan him money to prevent Joe
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:24 PM
May 2019

from losing his home. Biden can wear his financial condition as a point of pride He is just like the most of us working to keep afloat. What a stark contrast to Trump the Clown. Born with a golden spoon everything he touches turns to shit

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
39. I just fact checked my own post. In an interview with CNN some time ago, Biden
Wed May 8, 2019, 03:04 PM
May 2019

told the story of Obama offering to help him financially when Obama learned Biden was considered selling his home to help his dying son Beau support his family. Beau was considering resigning as Delaware’s AG for health concern. Obama told him not to sell the house and that he would help him out. Biden considers it one of his most memorable moments during his time with Obama. Shows what a truly decent both men are.

marlakay

(11,491 posts)
42. He's doing fine now
Wed May 8, 2019, 03:34 PM
May 2019

Just bought a 2.7 million dollar vacation home with money from the books they both wrote.

He deserves a treat after all he has been through but he’s financially okay!

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
29. Businessman for President?
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:48 PM
May 2019

If I hear one more voter say they want a 'businessman' for President, I will scream! Trump is what these high roller 'businessmen' do...they cook the books and claim they are using legitimate legal practices.

Also, these Banana Republicans (love that phrase I heard on MSNBC) know what trouble Trump is in financially because they do the same things themselves but on a lesser scale. 'Businessman' know only how to make money for themselves and their friends. Trickle down Economics means for them that at any chance they can, they make the cup larger so there is no trickle down. And then for extra insurance, they create a large saucer underneath that cup to catch any drop.

How about that Chris Collins (NY-25) who is indicted for Insider Trading? He can still somehow weasel out of that charge, and in his district, a dead skunk can run on the ballot, which would beat any good and moral Democrat.
(Unless Nate McMurray keeps up his positive campaign so that people see what a fine man he is. Nate could do it!)

MadLinguist

(790 posts)
51. My guess is the the POS POTUS will be siccing his top IRS goons
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:18 PM
May 2019

Charles P. Rettig and Michael J. Desmond (IRS Commissioner and IRS Chief Counsel) on the entire IRS work staff to find the whistle-blower source of the Times report. If so, my hope is that such skullduggery will embolden other whistle-blowers to dish out more.

As damning as the NY Times' October 2018 report on the Trump family's long history of money-laundering and sundry types of fraud, it did not quite shred the Donald quite as finely as this one does.

That said, the October report is SUCH a great read that I bought a print copy that day and have it displayed in my office.
Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
By DAVID BARSTOW, SUSANNE CRAIG and RUSS BUETTNER
Oct. 2, 2018

[link:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html|
Lovely reading

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