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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:11 AM May 2019

He is mentally ill. Use whatever other more colorful terms you care to---unhinged, erratic, loony,

not right in the head, even "evil"---but, the basic fact remains: Donald Trump is mentally ill.

We are watching in collective horror as this person with the morals of an alley cat and the impulse control of a spoiled 5 year old "runs" our nation's governmental apparatus. He has filled the room with crumpled newspapers, sprinkled gasoline onto the furniture and is now smiling insanely as he opens a large box of matches

Wait? Be patient? Build the case?

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He is mentally ill. Use whatever other more colorful terms you care to---unhinged, erratic, loony, (Original Post) Atticus May 2019 OP
I agree with your assessment handmade34 May 2019 #1
Because they're getting what they want. Saviolo May 2019 #22
... Anon-C May 2019 #28
You forgot: Trump is making it okay to be racist again. Poiuyt May 2019 #31
There's that, too... Saviolo May 2019 #34
I think a lot of people have felt that way since the day the election results were announced. kentuck May 2019 #2
Been more like a nightmare, except you never wake up from it... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #3
That 'sex tour of duty' in the '80s crazytown May 2019 #17
it's about sex sex on the wrong brain nails it certainot May 2019 #30
or he was spoiled rotten as a child. Or he has that family trait of everyone in the demigoddess May 2019 #35
This guy went to bed each night with Hitler speeches on the bed table, per Ivana... hlthe2b May 2019 #4
Those pictures say it all world wide wally May 2019 #8
They sure do!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #40
The description that makes me go huh is- dawg day May 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #39
As my father would say: He ain't right. Sneederbunk May 2019 #6
He is a crazy and dangerous criminal. dalton99a May 2019 #7
A firest, to the point and accurate assessment. BigmanPigman May 2019 #37
Fruit Loops Nuts colsohlibgal May 2019 #9
Totally agree, they need to stop worrying about rocking the boat and do their JOBs! pdsimdars May 2019 #10
Yep. I've said since late in his campaign that there's something wrong with him. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #11
Yes. ITMF now! What the hell are we KPN May 2019 #12
Barking mad or bat shit sarge43 May 2019 #13
Insane in the membrane... Blue Owl May 2019 #14
Well he's a white male with towers... ananda May 2019 #15
There isn't just one word that describes him. CaptYossarian May 2019 #16
the word i've been using is rigid. whatever the cause, his brain is rigid. mopinko May 2019 #18
He's touched. watoos May 2019 #19
Please don't insult alley cats. For one, they don't usually want incest with their daughter. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #20
So...you think his morals are that good? Because I have a cat who was once feral and PatrickforO May 2019 #21
sounds like a severe case of sex on the wrong brain, or sowb certainot May 2019 #23
Early on, I had been hoping for SOME kind of pivot... TommyCelt May 2019 #24
No. He's just an asshole leftstreet May 2019 #25
I agree except for the BigmanPigman May 2019 #38
I think he is a shrewd, ruthless, manipulative, narcistic ,lieing megalomaniac. oldlibdem May 2019 #26
With apologies to alley cats everywhere. But I get your point. calimary May 2019 #27
K&R BlueJac May 2019 #29
It is entirely possible to be nocoincidences May 2019 #32
Mental illness gives him an out Bettie May 2019 #33
He is leading the republican party, with few if any objections by any of it's members EleanorR May 2019 #36
And it's not just trump. With barr as AG, he is above the law, as is barr. ecstatic May 2019 #41
He is koo koo cray cray kimbutgar May 2019 #42
Mentally ill and clearly UNFIT for office vapor2 May 2019 #43

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
1. I agree with your assessment
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:14 AM
May 2019

and have the same questions... but I also question how this came to be and why the Republicans are acquiescing??

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
22. Because they're getting what they want.
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:08 AM
May 2019

They're getting far right judges appointed everywhere, they're getting tax cuts on the wealthy, they're probably getting Roe overturned, they've got a case in front of SCOTUS about whether LGBTQ+ are protected by federal nondiscrimination laws, they're getting the votes of groups they fear suppressed, they're getting environmental regulations softened or rolled back. Not that Trump is directly doing this, but he's super cool with it all happening. The GOP have been dreaming of a president like Trump since Nixon.

If you've ever read Frank Herbert's Dune, I sort of think of Trump as the GOP's kwisatz haderach.

Poiuyt

(18,129 posts)
31. You forgot: Trump is making it okay to be racist again.
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:25 AM
May 2019

I have no doubt that much of his base support are racists, bigots, and xenophobes, and they know that Trump has their back.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
34. There's that, too...
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:22 PM
May 2019

... but this is more about the party itself. I have no doubt that a bunch of the GOP are casually racist, but I think there are few that are actively white nationalists like Steve King (R-obviously).

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
2. I think a lot of people have felt that way since the day the election results were announced.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:20 AM
May 2019

There has been a foreboding feeling since the beginning. The boy ain't right!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
3. Been more like a nightmare, except you never wake up from it...
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:32 AM
May 2019

My theory is that Dolt45 has syphilis, which has caused severe brain damage.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
30. it's about sex sex on the wrong brain nails it
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
May 2019

impatient satisfaction-demanding sex energy diverted to parts of the brain that do logic and mathematics. it wants more bigger faster with numbers/calculation etc resulting in greed, materialism, unregulated capitalism and when it power logic it wants to get the thinking over with as fast as possible, resulting in an irrational need for certainty. since nothing is certain it causes fear so it has to be created. that's when logic connects with the creative side of the brain to deny reality and rationalize the lies, releasing trapped sex energy for emotion and pleasure. that's why he's always so certain, never wrong.

most humans have some sex on the wrong brain, females less. there are a lot of factors making it worse. we have to start sex ed to make sure kids stop learning sex with the wrong hand.



demigoddess

(6,644 posts)
35. or he was spoiled rotten as a child. Or he has that family trait of everyone in the
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:34 PM
May 2019

family thinking they are superior to the whole world. Have a sister in law like that!

hlthe2b

(102,332 posts)
4. This guy went to bed each night with Hitler speeches on the bed table, per Ivana...
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:34 AM
May 2019

Yet everyone seems to feel that taking this seriously is inappropriate. We are to believe that he did not learn and emulate in order to message and control effectively.

I noted this cautious retweet from the preeminent Laurence Tribe. I share his concern.


dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. The description that makes me go huh is-
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:39 AM
May 2019

"He is not well."
"He is unwell."

That sounds like he's got a stomach upset from eating too many Big Macs, like this will go away and tomorrow he will be "well".

He's not "unwell." He's a vicious nut.

Response to dawg day (Reply #5)

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
9. Fruit Loops Nuts
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:48 AM
May 2019

Crazy and evil, a complete bad actor, yet 35 or so percent think he is great no matter how unhinged he acts.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. Yep. I've said since late in his campaign that there's something wrong with him.
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:51 AM
May 2019

It was obvious.

If this were grandpa or a great-uncle, I'd be called him crazy Uncle Don, and make sure someone is keeping an eye on him.

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
13. Barking mad or bat shit
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:02 AM
May 2019

He'd give a nuke to a spider monkey. Wait. He is a spider monkey. (My apologies to the League of Spider Monkeys)

ananda

(28,873 posts)
15. Well he's a white male with towers...
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:09 AM
May 2019

That’s all that matters and he’s got a bunch
of other whites in the Senate and the courts
to rubber stamp his malicious idiocy.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
16. There isn't just one word that describes him.
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:12 AM
May 2019

He's narcissistic, not well-read, evil, xenophobic, a traitor, hates the environment, flippant, a poor businessman, and has dementia.

And 60 million people voted for him to lead America.

mopinko

(70,190 posts)
18. the word i've been using is rigid. whatever the cause, his brain is rigid.
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:36 AM
May 2019

he can no longer take in new info, and especially cannot jettison wrong info.
it is probably, physically, calcifying or something.

there was never gonna be a pivot, because his brain can no longer pivot.

i heard barbara res, his former, long term employee, say that his business went into a long slide in the 80's because he refused to take advice.
it was an aha! moment for me.
i think the coke broke his brain back in the day.

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
21. So...you think his morals are that good? Because I have a cat who was once feral and
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:59 AM
May 2019

he actually turned into a good cat.

I don't think we can turn Trump around so he's good.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. sounds like a severe case of sex on the wrong brain, or sowb
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:09 AM
May 2019

and that explains his followers too. the researchers really need to look into this

It’s not human nature or lizard brains causing these cycles of greed, war, and self destruction. For hundreds of thousands of years life was short and humans reproduced as soon as possible. In the last few thousand years we began to delay the age of reproduction and our brains weren’t wired for it.

Sex on the wrong brain explains how the extra frustration and sexual repression leads to long-lasting neural associations that divert impatient satisfaction-demanding reproductive impulses meant to fuel emotion, creativity, and orgasm to brain functions that are supposed to be patient and objective, like mathematics and logic.

Sex on the wrong brain exacerbates greed, fear, authoritarianism, racism, misogyny, terrorism, and even sexual dysfunction. Symptoms vary widely on individual and societal levels, affected by behavior, culture, genes, and even by gender.

Greed, materialism: In parts of the brain where numbers are processed the misplaced reproductive energy demands more, bigger, faster.

Irrational need for certainty: When reproductive energy fuels logic it wants finality, conclusion, and certainty. Humans evolved in complex natural environments surrounded by uncertainty. Uncertainty is supposed to stimulate curiosity and creativity but sowb wants to end the thinking and turns everyday uncertainties into sources of suspicion, stress, anxiety and fear.

Uncertainty avoidance and certainty creation: Humans try to avoid uncertainty by using order, structure, conformity, and destruction to impose simplicity and predictability. Artificial certainty can be created by reducing degrees of belief and judgement to binary absolutes like good or evil, right or wrong, black or white.

There are various ways to reduce sowb in adults but the ultimate cure is sex education to reduce the number of adolescents who learn sex with the wrong hand.

Misogyny: Sex on the wrong brain explains why sowb is generally worse in men. It suggests the disparity can cause men to view women as a source of uncertainty needing to be controlled and that pushes our belief systems to institutionalize and normalize misogyny, paternalism, and sexual abuse.

Authoritarianism: The need for certainty is a defining characteristic of authoritarianism, which is measured with the Uncertainty Avoidance Index, or UAI. For authoritarians and fascists certainty is the currency of power and more important than truth. Authoritarian leaders like Trump must appear decisive, certain, and never wrong. They describe the world in absolutes and offer order and quick easy answers to create certainty and ease the fear. You're either white or you're not. You’re on one side of the wall or the other. Fear and chaos increases the leader’s appeal.

Capitalism: Unregulated free market capitalism reduces uncertainty in complex problems like climate change and poverty, which can be simplified, ignored, denied, and conveniently left to market forces.

Fundamentalism, extremism, racism, nationalism, and terrorism: All are made worse by sowb-driven fear and binary belief systems that promote absolutism.

There are various ways to reduce sowb in adults but the ultimate cure is sex education to reduce the number of adolescents who learn sex with the wrong hand.

Reward for denial and accepting lies: sowb-based belief systems cultivate thinking patterns that redirect sowb to creative areas of the brain to deny reality and rationalize lies. That is when the misdirected reproductive impulses can finally fuel emotion and pleasure, as a reward for accepting the fake reality.

Age: sowb can get worse with age, with brain circuitry reinforced through repetition, ritual, dogma.

Sexual dysfunction: More sowb means less energy for emotion and orgasm. Humans may also use behavior such as violence to trigger emotions to help redirect sowb for pleasure.

Cannabis, marijuana: THC may reduce some sowb symptoms.

The 'sowb gene': Susceptibility to particular sowb symptoms may be inherited when populations favor them for competitive advantage, survival value, or cultural preference. How long ago our ancestors began to delay the age of reproduction may be a barometer of sowb levels in particular gene pools. Native Americans and African Americans generally may exhibit less sex on the wrong brain than Americans with European ancestry, for example.

Sowb vs democracy: Sowb favors authoritarian patriarchal top-down leadership, which inhibits its recognition and prevention. Strong democracies regulate and moderate sowb symptoms but with global warming and the proliferation of nuclear weapons it’s even more important now to finally treat the central problem.

TommyCelt

(838 posts)
24. Early on, I had been hoping for SOME kind of pivot...
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:11 AM
May 2019

...or at the very least that the bureaucratic apparatus/checks and balances would shield us from this trump's very worst tendencies. He has been dutifully chipping away at said apparatus since 1/20/2017. His daily twitter insanity has electrified the easily-lied-to and has benumbed the rest of us. We are punch drunk.

I had no idea it would be this bad. I hoped against hope and tried to have faith in the process. This trump is sledge-hammering that process to splinters.

leftstreet

(36,111 posts)
25. No. He's just an asshole
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:11 AM
May 2019

He knows right from wrong. He can control his behavior. He just likes to fuck people over.

Narcissism isn't mental illness, it's a personality disorder

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
38. I agree except for the
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:49 PM
May 2019

"he can control his behavior" part. He is a sociopath and a narcissist (and a sadist) and those personality disorders are almost impossible to control or cure even if you really want to and work hard at it with a therapist for a long time. He IS dangerous to the country.

oldlibdem

(330 posts)
26. I think he is a shrewd, ruthless, manipulative, narcistic ,lieing megalomaniac.
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:12 AM
May 2019

With an ego the size of his comb-over. Crackers? Not so much.

nocoincidences

(2,227 posts)
32. It is entirely possible to be
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:45 AM
May 2019

shit-house rat crazy (thanx to my father for that phrase), demented, and psychopathic at the same time, one does not preclude the others.

He's a perfect example of that kind of shitstorm.

And the good old USA allowed him to become president.

Yeehaw.

Bettie

(16,120 posts)
33. Mental illness gives him an out
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:01 PM
May 2019

it assumes that he could be different.

I don't accept that. He's just an evil, nasty POS.

EleanorR

(2,393 posts)
36. He is leading the republican party, with few if any objections by any of it's members
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:43 PM
May 2019

The fight is against the whole, complicit, corrupt cabal.

ecstatic

(32,727 posts)
41. And it's not just trump. With barr as AG, he is above the law, as is barr.
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:29 PM
May 2019

Failure to do anything and quickly will be unforgivable. We are so close to becoming russia. Infrastructure, healthcare, etc. will be meaningless if we morph into russia.

vapor2

(1,249 posts)
43. Mentally ill and clearly UNFIT for office
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:46 PM
May 2019

My dad said he was mentally ill months ago and I have to agree. Your analogy is spot on. Recently saw Elizabeth Warren at a rally and while her staffer was taking our photo, I told her that "this man scares me" and she said, "me too". The 25th amendment should be invoked and who gives a crap about any consequences. He needs to be removed from office immediately.

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