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Wed May 15, 2019, 05:38 PM

Excellent NYT editorial explains what can be done to stop US building up to war in Iran

Last edited Wed May 15, 2019, 06:24 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/15/opinion/stop-iran-war.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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Reply Excellent NYT editorial explains what can be done to stop US building up to war in Iran (Original post)
emmaverybo May 15 OP
Me. May 15 #1
ginnyinWI May 15 #3
emmaverybo May 15 #8
ginnyinWI May 15 #14
Ghost Dog May 15 #2
emmaverybo May 15 #9
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Ghost Dog May 15 #13
saidsimplesimon May 15 #4
Me. May 15 #5
gratuitous May 15 #7
emmaverybo May 15 #10
Ghost Dog May 15 #6
yonder May 15 #11
Hotler May 15 #12

Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:40 PM

1. 4 Paragraphs Please

because of the firewall

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:43 PM

3. here you go

The best way to avoid war is to talk with Iran, which President Trump has said he wants to do. Prisoner-swap negotiations, to bring home Americans imprisoned or missing in Iran, could create an important channel of communication, and the leadership in Tehran is open to this. But a leader-to-leader meeting can happen only if the United States rejoins the nuclear deal — and at this point that unfortunately seems unlikely.

The good news is that Congress, America’s allies and others can intervene to avert a disastrous conflict.

Although bipartisanship is scarce, caution in sending American troops abroad remains a common cause. Both houses of Congress should immediately hold hearings on the leaked war plans. If the administration won’t provide Patrick M. Shanahan, the acting secretary of defense, as a witness, then Congress should agree to whoever the administration sends and include in the hearing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs or his designee. This hearing should be public, but Congress should also welcome a classified session to discuss leaked intelligence alleging plots by Iran.

Congress should also use its powers to challenge the legal authority for a war with Iran. The Senate is scheduled to mark up the fiscal 2020 National Defense Authorization Act next week. This provides an opportunity to limit the use of defense dollars for a new war and gives Congress a chance to develop a new Authorization for the Use of Military Force — another issue with support on both sides of the aisle. Those in Congress who wish to avoid a war need to remind the country that the debate over authorizing the use of force against Saddam Hussein, which was presented as a way to strengthen the president’s hand for diplomacy, ended up giving George W. Bush the authority he used to invade Iraq.

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Response to ginnyinWI (Reply #3)

Wed May 15, 2019, 06:29 PM

8. Thanks! Was not sure if could or should copy at length.

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #8)

Wed May 15, 2019, 11:41 PM

14. You can always do four paragraphs. Nt

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:42 PM

2. Do you mean US war mongering?

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #2)

Wed May 15, 2019, 06:30 PM

9. Good catch. Corrected.

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #9)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:26 PM

13. .

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:45 PM

4. Details of the article below

Great article, I missed it on my first look at news this morning. I'm going to expand a bit as NYT is behind a paywall for some of our members.

K&R and thank you for posting


How to Stop the March to War With Iran
Congress, Europe and business leaders can stand in John Bolton’s way.

By Wendy R. Sherman
Ms. Sherman is the former under secretary of state for political affairs.

May 15, 2019

snip.....lots more at the link, the copied text is the author's closing

Finally, it is crucial that the news media in the United States and elsewhere continue its crusade for the facts about what is going on with Iran. We cannot repeat the days before the Iraq war when even many of our most reliable news outlets repeated and amplified what was, in fact, a flimsy case for war.

It’s quite possible that none of these actions will halt John Bolton, President Trump’s national security adviser, in his long-held ambition for regime change in Iran, by force of arms if necessary. And maybe even Mr. Trump sees promise in a “wag the dog” strategy in the run-up to the 2020 election, rallying his supporters around a “wartime” president. But a military conflict with Iran would have historic negative consequences for America’s national security, economy and standing in the world. We cannot just let it happen.

Wendy R. Sherman is a professor and the director of the Center for Public Leadership at the Harvard Kennedy School. She is the former under secretary of state for political affairs, lead negotiator of the Iran nuclear deal, and the author of “Not for the Faint of Heart: Lessons in Courage, Power and Persistence.”

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #4)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:48 PM

5. It Is Excellent Advice

But I wouldn't expect otherwise.

I would also reply to the OP with thanks for the paragraphs but DU is doing something funny for me and makes replying directly impossible

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #4)

Wed May 15, 2019, 06:04 PM

7. The media has to play a crucial role?

Sounds like war is inevitable, then.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #7)

Wed May 15, 2019, 06:32 PM

10. Most of article about what congress should do and how experts's editorials can help

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:59 PM

6. I sometimes play Go. In Go, a common tactic

is to move aggressively on one part of the board and then, having gained 'tempo' (freedom and time to move) there, switch suddenly to another part of the board where you most desire to gain territory, attacking mercilesssly.

Perhaps Bolton is doing this: Iran distraction; Venezuela invasion.

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #6)

Wed May 15, 2019, 06:36 PM

11. +1.

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 07:33 PM

12. and we could take to the streets by the tens of thousands and protest...Oh, but wait.....

I forgot, I've been told protest don't work. Never mind, move along.

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