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https://www.thedailybeast.com/christopher-steele-the-trump-dossier-author-to-be-questioned-by-us-officials?ref=homeChristopher Steele, the Trump Dossier Author, to Be Questioned by U.S. Officials
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H2O Man
(73,671 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,124 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
Jarqui
(10,131 posts)An insider at Steeles Orbis Business Intelligence company said the former MI6 officer told the Department of Justice that he would only discuss his dealings with the FBI and wanted assurances that U.S. officials would secure the agreement of the British government, which has reportedly not yet been approached about the meeting.
I would stipulate that the discussion must be recorded and if the DoJ misquotes or misrepresents any aspect then Steele will release the recording to the media.
Cockroaches don't like bright lights.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,124 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
watoos
(7,142 posts)This looks to me like the Bill Barr witch hunt investigation.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Trump is planning on putting Hillary on the 2020 ballot. I live among Trumpers and to a person, every one I ask tells me that they could never vote for Hillary. She had been smeared so badly by the right that people didn't vote for Trump as much as they voted against Hillary. Trump wants a repeat of 2016.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)had to be the most effective mass brainwashing event in my lifetime. Think it even seeped into our side. You suddenly thought...baggage. then you had to slap yourself and remember it wasn't true.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)but you have to join.
I wonder why Steele would agree to speak.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,124 posts)Surely no good.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
watoos
(7,142 posts)Republicans have accused him of digging up dirt on Trump, maybe he just wants to set the record straight?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Why would they want to talk to him? Just to have him admit on a new record he was hired by Clinton via her law firm & Fusion? This is not any kind of new news.
watoos
(7,142 posts)make him out to be a Democratic conspirator, claim that his dossier was made up fiction. They probably already have their narrative ready to roll before Steele is ever interviewed.
I'm glad that Steele demanded guidelines to protect himself.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Wanting to talk to FBI and to get British government agreement. Like he needs to have people from British intell to accompany him.
pazzyanne
(6,560 posts)Of course this guy didn't invite Russians into the oval office to brag about firing Comey. And of course it wasn't behind closed doors either.
zentrum
(9,866 posts).....story just sounds so much like Trump. His ugly racism.
Too Trumpish to be a story anybody else could make up.
It's the least important part of the story and yet the very part of it that could bring him down with his base. They don't care about corruption, or the elections---but some creepy behavior with prostitutes? That would degrade him, even in their evangelical eyes.
watoos
(7,142 posts)Trump supported Roy Moore and Kavanaugh. Want to know what the Trumpers I live among said to me? Who didn't try to get in a girl's pants when we were young?
Wounded Bear
(58,772 posts)Trumplodytes love Trump because they want to be him, especially the part about being able to pay prostitutes to act out their fantasies.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)How it was Obama's bed that make it so much a Trumpian move.
zentrum
(9,866 posts)...what I mean. The perverse racism of it. Too weird to make up. But smacks of his mentality.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)So brilliantly at the correspondent dinner in 2011. And another tell...liar-in-chief claimed he never spent night in hotel which NBC said wasn't true.
The Mouth
(3,169 posts)It will invalidate everything else in the dossier in their eyes.
I don't believe the pee story, Trump's a germophobe. It's almost like it was planted there specifically TO be repudiated, thus (in the eyes of many) completely repudiating everything. At least that's what I'd do if I was working for that side.
watoos
(7,142 posts)isn't really a fact? A lot of people wipe off their shopping cart at the grocery store but that doesn't mean they are a germophobe.
The Mouth
(3,169 posts)It's a pretty well known quirk about him for many years. I mean it's a non zero chance of being a ruse, but I wouldn't bet on it, IIRC people have mentioned it going back long before 2016.
But I could be wrong, often am, but he said this about himself o Howard Stern back in 1993 or 2003, and in his book 'Art of the Comeback' 1997
I'm still suspecting a very slick Russian game of giving Steel a detail that can be later discredited, thereby seemingly discrediting everything else.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)can't resist telling you a detail that people may have missed to prove he is smarter EVEN while he is claiming the entire bad story is 100% - made up.
I can picture the event happening...but because he is a germophobe, just watched from a distance. They probably encouraged him to get on the bed but he refused.
The Mouth
(3,169 posts)I think what you say is entirely plausible.
Just saying that having a spurious detail that can be refuted or shown to be plausible is an old, old trick. If the Russians were in on anything, then they very likely were aware of Steele's operations; if you can't stop them -(an 'accident' might be too messy, or as a former(?) intelligence operative he may have had backups upon backups)- then you try to discredit them later.
Hell, if I were ex-KGB I'd have played someone like Steele with false info from the start so that after people took it, ran with it, used it as a basis for stuff then you pull the rug out under them.Not that Steel's info is false but that is what chess players do, feints within feints.
Whatever one thinks of Trump's cognitive capacity, if the Russians were involved in this game they didn't send the B team. I'd bet they had infiltrated McCain, Cruz, Bernie, Hillary and several other campaigns with at least some personnel, most political campaigns don't vet volunteers much, if at all at anything but the very highest levels.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)before they knew he could win because of his business dealings with them. And what about Rubio and Jeb. They had actually used Fusion too to find dirt, right? Albeit likely through a republican donor.
Roy Rolling
(6,943 posts)"We got Hillary dirt, CIA agent names for Putin, and three new girls we can call for a good time when in Russia". ---Republican Investigators (unemployed Benghazi investigators)
NCjack
(10,279 posts)amend his report and send it to all of the sponsors of the original Steele Report, the FBI, and Congress. Tell the FBI investigator that his information network is sleeping, but every time in the future that he is annoyed by the FBI, there could be more amendments.
lark
(23,191 posts)I hope those trump asses don't kidnap him and take him back to the USA for trial. I could just see Barr ordering this at drumpfs; request and the charge will be treason and malicious lies - even though lots of the dossier proved to be 100'' accurate - that will never be mentioned and the lies will be the ones drumpf and Barr invent to lock Steele up.
He better bring a bodyguard and insist on this happening at M16 to prevent international kidnapping and kangaroo trial.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Snip (from 2018)
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The Mouth
(3,169 posts)People can be made to talk, to say anything. Video can be edited. Heart attacks happen. This shit is real and the playbook is brutal.
If I was working on the other side, Mr. Steele *would* confess that it was a malicious and treacherous lie, that Hillary had put him up to it, the video would be oh so perfectly edited, and then he would have a convenient "MASSIVE heart attack" (gratuitous 'Wag The Dog' reference).
Takket
(21,695 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NY FBI he's not as smart as I thought.
watoos
(7,142 posts)He should bring his own person to record the interview.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Didn't remember that Steele talked to Mueller team. Maybe they found some inconsistency there???
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/special-counsel-russia-dossier-christopher-steele/index.html
kimbutgar
(21,258 posts)Steele needs to wear gloves and a respirator maskAnd refuse the offer of any refreshments!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Dingbat is in London
Hekate
(91,003 posts)...the interviews take place in Britain in the offices of MI6. If I were Steele, or the Brits, I would not trust Trumpists as far as I could throw them, and would not come here. Trump likes ambushes with cameras, as Pelosi and Schumer know.