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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:04 PM Jun 2019

The Queen served 1990 Chateau Lafite Rothschild at the state dinner (OK, wrong year)

Last edited Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:10 PM - Edit history (3)

That's a $15,000 bottle of wine. From the Queen's private cellar.

It was available only at the head table.

Trump doesn't drink.

The Queen knows how to throw some stank.

(As was pointed out below, it was 1990, not 1900, and that makes it $8K, not $15K. Still, fun story)

(As was again pointed out below, that makes it $1K. FFS people it's still an expensive bottle of wine.)

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The Queen served 1990 Chateau Lafite Rothschild at the state dinner (OK, wrong year) (Original Post) Recursion Jun 2019 OP
Sitting at the same table as Trump C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #1
Lol! StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #22
were there hamberders? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #2
No. SergeStorms Jun 2019 #83
Not me, I hope he at lard and lots of it. 33taw Jun 2019 #101
Lard. SergeStorms Jun 2019 #103
Yep, he is gross. 33taw Jun 2019 #107
But Trump does drink, was caught drinking multiple times, and probably helped his older brother out. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #3
"Helped his brother drink himself to death?" Nitram Jun 2019 #11
I'm sure he was messing with him to exacerbate his alcoholism. He is not the type to be the #2 son. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #16
Correct. Anything else is a reach. dameatball Jun 2019 #30
He's driven me to drink jayschool2013 Jun 2019 #42
Hey!! Smoke weed every day! yuiyoshida Jun 2019 #81
very possible if brother was trying to reduce, quit. trump shows up with a bottle. certainot Jun 2019 #110
She, Charles, Camila, William, and the rest all f'ing needed that bottle!! The Queen knows. (nt) IndyOp Jun 2019 #4
I'll buy Meghan a shot for being in the same room with the creep Recursion Jun 2019 #5
They didn't attend mcar Jun 2019 #6
Trump vs. baby? MicaelS Jun 2019 #67
Lucky Meghan is still on maternity leave Hekate Jun 2019 #19
Neither Meghan nor Harry was there. Tipperary Jun 2019 #36
He lies about not drinking, just like he lies about everything else. nt AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2019 #7
Ask mgardener Jun 2019 #21
Roger Stone claimed that Chief of Staff Gen John Kelly may be drugging Trump. keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #23
And some say.... lunatica Jun 2019 #31
Adderall Maine-i-acs Jun 2019 #68
Wait a minute... are you talking about trump's good friend, Lotta People? calimary Jun 2019 #99
Red Don is a Red Whine Connoisseur Blue Owl Jun 2019 #8
Yep. His favorite Red Whine is "Witch Hunt" from the CryBaby Region... FM123 Jun 2019 #9
Ah yes, a fine 2018 vintage with notes of bitterness and desperation... Blue Owl Jun 2019 #12
...with stubby legs and a note of flop-sweat, Sugar Smack Jun 2019 #32
Funny you should mention Red wine.. mitch96 Jun 2019 #41
I read it was a 1990 Chateau Lafite Rothschild onenote Jun 2019 #10
Let me re-check my source on that Recursion Jun 2019 #13
1900 is very unlikely to be drinkable. TygrBright Jun 2019 #15
Ewww, you're right Poiuyt Jun 2019 #46
I have seen 1900 edhopper Jun 2019 #14
Wouldn't a 1900 pretty much be high priced basalmic vinegar by now? nt Blue_true Jun 2019 #40
that is beyond edhopper Jun 2019 #43
Goodness, that's been in the cellar a long time! Hekate Jun 2019 #17
It was a 1990 Lafite Rothschild charlyvi Jun 2019 #18
Coffee and petit fours yonder Jun 2019 #35
I so hope you are right about your interpretation... 3catwoman3 Jun 2019 #54
Petit fours are tiny, bite-sized mini cakes forgotmylogin Jun 2019 #72
If it was from 1900 and burrowowl Jun 2019 #37
you link (Eater) made yet another mistake, it gave the price for the 1900 vintage, 1990 is $700-1000 Celerity Jun 2019 #47
lamb larwdem Jun 2019 #55
Me to. MFM008 Jun 2019 #79
And the Pauillac doesn't even rate a mention... The_jackalope Jun 2019 #56
Chateau Latour is wickedly good, I like it better that CLR Celerity Jun 2019 #64
Yes, the glass I had was an 82 The_jackalope Jun 2019 #65
I've been happily with the same woman for 32 years. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #109
Pesonally, I would rather have a Bud and Burger on the backyard patio with a couple friends. olegramps Jun 2019 #76
You might want to double check your source... brooklynite Jun 2019 #20
What a waste royalty is. former9thward Jun 2019 #24
Really? BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #87
Sorry, our worship of political dynasties is bad enough. former9thward Jun 2019 #104
"under royal protocol guests cannot continue eating after the Queen has finished" dalton99a Jun 2019 #25
The queen has a sense of humor Gothmog Jun 2019 #26
What, no Trump Wine??? Best_man23 Jun 2019 #27
Did he eat the same thing as everyone else? captain queeg Jun 2019 #28
He was probably waiting for his Happy Meal! japple Jun 2019 #34
"Is there a children's menu!" Codeine Jun 2019 #91
I hope King Trump & 'Grand Duchess' Melania enjoy it all while it lasts. YOHABLO Jun 2019 #29
Cornhole enid602 Jun 2019 #45
It was for his entourage and family, I suspect. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #33
You should update your post. Tipperary Jun 2019 #38
We need to spread the word. Blue_true Jun 2019 #39
1990 Chateau Lafite Rothschild is nowhere near 15,000 USD a bottle, its around $700-1000 or so Celerity Jun 2019 #44
The post says 1900 not 1990 (nt) IndyOp Jun 2019 #57
the OP got it wrong (the year), look at multiple posts on the thread Celerity Jun 2019 #59
Thanks C - I am out of my depth talking about wine costing more than $40 (nt) IndyOp Jun 2019 #60
yw! Celerity Jun 2019 #62
You would think he would amend his op, but I guess not. Tipperary Jun 2019 #69
I have done all I can do to try and present the correct info Celerity Jun 2019 #71
I enjoyed learning; so thanks for the lesson! Tipperary Jun 2019 #74
YW! Celerity Jun 2019 #77
Link showing cost at 9500 - IndyOp Jun 2019 #58
lol, again, that is the wrong year, even Eater made a mistake, they got the right vintage, but then Celerity Jun 2019 #61
I don't drink but this is fascinating stuff.... thanks! n/t Locrian Jun 2019 #96
yw! Celerity Jun 2019 #100
She doesn't realise she's dealing with sophisticated people here RandiFan1290 Jun 2019 #48
There are snails on her plate! lol blockhead Jun 2019 #49
Nah. As others have pointed out to you... cwydro Jun 2019 #50
The Rumps should be served something befitting their refined tastes. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2019 #51
More "vino" for the Queen to enjoy herself. democratisphere Jun 2019 #52
The Orange Anus brought plenty of stank of his own. CentralMass Jun 2019 #53
It has been a long time since I last quaffed a Rothschild ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #63
A friend (who used to co-own a Napa vineyard) was once gifted an 1899 bottle of CLR... brooklynite Jun 2019 #70
Pearls Before Swine DFW Jun 2019 #66
You stole the words right out of my mouth. Texin Jun 2019 #73
All right, Queenie! You show em, girl!! Firestorm49 Jun 2019 #75
Not $8K, around $800, or so, smdh Celerity Jun 2019 #78
Correct. $825.46 to be exact. honest.abe Jun 2019 #80
There are pics of him drinking wine. I think maybe he just drinks wine, not harder stuff. nt tblue37 Jun 2019 #82
Not 1900. 1990. Selling for a little over $600 a bottle. Nitram Jun 2019 #84
Yes, I corrected the year Recursion Jun 2019 #85
It still shows up on the home page with the original wording. Nitram Jun 2019 #86
Yeah, no Recursion Jun 2019 #88
LOL! Nitram Jun 2019 #89
But, also: apologies, and you were right Recursion Jun 2019 #90
Thanks! Nitram Jun 2019 #93
Trump may not drink but I would bet his nostrils get a hell-of-a INdemo Jun 2019 #92
Video of the queen... Takket Jun 2019 #94
Looks like a bottle of the stuff can be had for around $700 in the UK. pangaia Jun 2019 #95
Only $700? Do yer mind picking me up a flask while yer're out and about? marble falls Jun 2019 #97
You bet, a 750ml bottle or a magnum?? pangaia Jun 2019 #105
Its a double jeroboam or its nothing. marble falls Jun 2019 #106
So this is what was served at the 'head' table. The other tables got Ripple. YOHABLO Jun 2019 #98
Megs and Harry Olafjoy Jun 2019 #102
Eat, drink and be merry. Aussie105 Jun 2019 #108

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
83. No.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:56 AM
Jun 2019

The Royal Family isn't as sophisticated as the white-trash-with-cash Trump family. I hope they made Trump eat vegetables.

TheBlackAdder

(28,194 posts)
3. But Trump does drink, was caught drinking multiple times, and probably helped his older brother out.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:13 PM
Jun 2019

.

I'm almost certain that fucker helped Freddie drink himself to death so Trump could replace the #1 son.

Trump wanted daddy's attention and more importantly--daddy's inheritance.

.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
11. "Helped his brother drink himself to death?"
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jun 2019

Sounds highly unlikely. An alcoholic doesn't really need "help" in that department. Trump is clearly guilty of multiple crimes. No need to start inventing them.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
110. very possible if brother was trying to reduce, quit. trump shows up with a bottle.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 12:48 AM
Jun 2019

"hey, i got you a present. what? oh, come on... just a shot. you insult me........ you're not my brother.

sounds like him, no?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. I'll buy Meghan a shot for being in the same room with the creep
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jun 2019

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been more than patient with this chimp.

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
21. Ask
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:34 PM
Jun 2019

About drugs.
People are asking.
The best people are asking.
PS. And no, I have no personal knowledge about Trump and drugs.
Just some people are asking.

calimary

(81,265 posts)
99. Wait a minute... are you talking about trump's good friend, Lotta People?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:46 PM
Jun 2019

My husband is still trying to figure out who Lotta People might be. We've never seen her yet. But she always seems to be saying stuff of great significance to The Asset.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
41. Funny you should mention Red wine..
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 08:36 PM
Jun 2019

The tRumps had a dinner with Phil and Camilla at the US embassy... Meat, potatoes and vanilla ice cream. Two scoops?
Anyhoo. Guess what they served at dinner...
California Red!! Maybe a $30 bottle?
m

onenote

(42,702 posts)
10. I read it was a 1990 Chateau Lafite Rothschild
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jun 2019

I doubt it was a 1900.

Some cites list the price of the 1990 as around $900, others say its as high as $1700. But its nowhere near $15K.

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
15. 1900 is very unlikely to be drinkable.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jun 2019

Even cellared in conditions of maximum longevity a claret isn't likely to retain its character for nearly 120 years. There are wines that will last that long- mostly fortified ones like port and dessert wines like Chateau d'Yquem, but I'd look askance at a claret- even Lafite. It will be over the hill.

regretfully,
Bright

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
46. Ewww, you're right
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 09:53 PM
Jun 2019

I just popped the cork on my bottle of 1900 Chateau Lafite Rothschild and it was very vinegary. I'm glad I didn't serve it to any of my fancy guests.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
18. It was a 1990 Lafite Rothschild
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:23 PM
Jun 2019



To accompany last night’s menu, The Donald was served a senior selection of fine wines, including white Burgundy and some big-deal Claret, one of which was a Lafite Rosthchilde 1990 which, according to Wine Searcher, has an average retail price of £9,360, per bottle. This is England, though, so the Royal sommelier threw in a couple of English bins, a Windsor Great Park sparkling white to kick things off and non-vintage sparkling rosé from Hambledon in Hampshire to pair with the sable.

https://london.eater.com/2019/6/4/18650711/donald-trump-uk-state-banquet-queen-menu

yonder

(9,666 posts)
35. Coffee and petit fours
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jun 2019

Can't say I know what petit fours might be, BUT I'd like to think it was another way to get a dig in at the guest of honor's reputation for lacking size in various appendages.

If so, what a hoot. petit fours. har, har.

3catwoman3

(23,985 posts)
54. I so hope you are right about your interpretation...
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 10:52 PM
Jun 2019

...of the petit fours. A salad with button mushrooms would have been good, too.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
56. And the Pauillac doesn't even rate a mention...
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:13 AM
Jun 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauillac_AOC

Pauillac includes 3 of the 5 premier cru châteaux of Bordeaux: Latour, Lafite Rothschild and Mouton Rothschild. The wines of Pauillac are often considered the quintessence of Bordeaux wines.

I've had one glass of Chateau Latour 30+ years ago. I can still taste it.

Celerity

(43,357 posts)
64. Chateau Latour is wickedly good, I like it better that CLR
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:59 AM
Jun 2019

1982 is heaven in a bottle, and 2000 has the same potential. same for 2009, and 2010.

All four are 100 pt. wines. 2000 is the best value atm and will start to peak in the next 5 years or so and go on for another 30, 40 years.

cheers



The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
65. Yes, the glass I had was an 82
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:10 AM
Jun 2019

No wonder I remember it so well. It was in about 1990, my brother in law had just stocked his cellar on a wine trip. I'm pretty sure it was better than sex.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
109. I've been happily with the same woman for 32 years.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 12:14 AM
Jun 2019

And we still really ‘like’ each other and she is still hot as hell.

But the few good wines I have tasted are memories I won’t forget. Cause they are so rare. A great Pauillac is a life’s memory for me. Of course the entire evening plays into the memory.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
87. Really?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jun 2019

I spend at least part of every July 4th contemplating whether or not wed have been better off losing the Revolutionary War. At least we’d all have healthcare...lol

Btw, the monarchy hasn’t had absolute power in Britain for centuries, and the family that rules over the colonies was the house of Hanover, not Windsor. So not really the same family.

dalton99a

(81,486 posts)
25. "under royal protocol guests cannot continue eating after the Queen has finished"
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:55 PM
Jun 2019

Did the asshole follow protocol?

Best_man23

(4,898 posts)
27. What, no Trump Wine???
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 07:05 PM
Jun 2019


"How good can that wine be?"...President Obama

Sadly, every bottle the Queen's sommelier put on the menu would be lost on that bunch.

She should have served them Pruno, send a message that is what they should be drinking right now.

captain queeg

(10,197 posts)
28. Did he eat the same thing as everyone else?
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 07:05 PM
Jun 2019

At best he might of sat there and picked at it before retiring to his room for hamberders or fried chicken.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
39. We need to spread the word.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 08:26 PM
Jun 2019

A 93 year old person was far more alert than the healthiest person alive, Donald Trump, at the state dinner.

Celerity

(43,357 posts)
59. the OP got it wrong (the year), look at multiple posts on the thread
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:21 AM
Jun 2019

My father was a sommelier when he worked his way through grad school, I was raised around fine wine and spirits


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212162256#post18




this tweet got the year right, put still overpriced it a bit (1400 quid is almost 1800 USD, so doubled the cost)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212162256#post20


Celerity

(43,357 posts)
71. I have done all I can do to try and present the correct info
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:02 AM
Jun 2019

On the overall scheme of things it is hardly a burning issue, and I do not want to sound pedantic and snobbish, as it is dealing with some of the most prestigious Bordeaux Grand Cru wines where even a lower end vintage costs 500 to 1000 USD (or more).

cheers

Celerity

(43,357 posts)
61. lol, again, that is the wrong year, even Eater made a mistake, they got the right vintage, but then
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:40 AM
Jun 2019

linked to the 1900

see my post here and the one that I replied too

trust me on this, I am 100% right

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212162256#post47

that was a reply to this


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212162256#post18

the tweet there is wrong

Eater linked to the 1900 VINTAGE PRICE, not the 1990

click on it


here, in the story

https://london.eater.com/2019/6/4/18650711/donald-trump-uk-state-banquet-queen-menu



look at what the link in red goes to



the wrong year

Eater fucked up too (just in another way that made the whole thing twice as confusing)

I knew as soon as I saw it, as I am very familiar with Chateau Lafite Rothschild 1er Cru. My father has taken me to vertical tastings before. 1990 was a fairly good year. 1982 and 1986 (especially '86) are even better. 1996 was a potential vintage of the half century. It will be extraordinary in about 5 to 10 years or so.

You never want to drink CLR young, it is far too tannic. 15 years minimum for most years. Also you will want to decant it for several hours prior to serving, to truly open up the incredible complexity.




Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
51. The Rumps should be served something befitting their refined tastes.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 10:39 PM
Jun 2019

I recommend a few hip flasks of MD 20/20. Thursday's vintage.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
63. It has been a long time since I last quaffed a Rothschild
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:51 AM
Jun 2019

And the price scared the crap outta me, so I didn't overdo it. I wasn't the one who bought it. Still, it was only something like $150 a bottle.

brooklynite

(94,554 posts)
70. A friend (who used to co-own a Napa vineyard) was once gifted an 1899 bottle of CLR...
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:16 AM
Jun 2019

...that had been in the private collection of the former King of Portugal. She drank it alone and said it was the most sublime experience she'd ever had.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
66. Pearls Before Swine
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:59 AM
Jun 2019

The "Pearls" pat is subjective, of course, depending on your tastes.

The "Swine" part, however, is spot on.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
73. You stole the words right out of my mouth.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:13 AM
Jun 2019

Of course, that's defaming swine. They should have just set six-pack of Diet Coke at his place setting. He wouldn't know a CLR from swill. (I will say I've seen more than one photo in which he is clearly hoisting a glass of wine or champagne, so that puts the lie to his claims that he doesn't drink.)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
85. Yes, I corrected the year
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jun 2019

My vintner disagrees about the price, but I'll knock that down in the OP too

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
86. It still shows up on the home page with the original wording.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jun 2019

Considering the lack of newsworthiness of the story, I'd suggest deleting it.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
88. Yeah, no
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jun 2019

Your consideration has been forwarded to the "I'll post whatever TF I want on DU" committee and rejected.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
90. But, also: apologies, and you were right
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jun 2019

I only just saw that I hadn't changed the date in the headline itself. That's fixed, and sorry for the inconvenience!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
95. Looks like a bottle of the stuff can be had for around $700 in the UK.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jun 2019


My first bottle of any 'good stuff' was a 1944 Lafite Rothschild .. in 1967.

Little did I then know.

Olafjoy

(937 posts)
102. Megs and Harry
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:20 PM
Jun 2019

I’ll bet they will both be there with big smiles this weekend for the Trooping of the Color for her Magesty along with Prince Louis making his balcony debut. Baby Archie back in the balcony reception room with nanny provided they get finished with the repainting and general de-cootying after Jerks and Kerplonk staged their creepy photo there. Will be grand and fun to watch.

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