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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:00 AM Jun 2019

Why? Who got to him?

I had high hopes for this judge but I guess I must lower my expectations on everything now.


Judge now says US doesn’t have to file Flynn call transcript
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/judge-now-says-us-doesnt-have-to-file-flynn-call-transcript/2019/06/04/10d12d80-8717-11e9-9d73-e2ba6bbf1b9b_story.html?utm_term=.027bb2d3e29f

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On Friday, the deadline set by the judge, prosecutors publicly filed the transcript of the call between the lawyers and said all of the information in the report that Flynn had provided had been unredacted. But they declined to produce a transcript of Flynn’s call with Kislyak, saying they were not relying on that conversation to establish his guilt or to determine his sentence.

In a brief written order Tuesday, Sullivan said that “upon consideration of the government’s submissions in response to those orders, the government is not required to file any additional materials or information on the public docket.” He did not elaborate on why he had changed his mind.

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Why? Who got to him? (Original Post) dajoki Jun 2019 OP
Several of the better legal pundits with DOJ experience believe he was provided it under seal. hlthe2b Jun 2019 #1
I know but its impossible to trust... dajoki Jun 2019 #2
What did Judge Emmet Sullivan just do? dajoki Jun 2019 #3
Palmer report isn't a legitimate source. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2019 #4
I know that... dajoki Jun 2019 #5
A broken clock is right twice a day.... kentuck Jun 2019 #6
That's exactly what I was thinking n/t dajoki Jun 2019 #7

hlthe2b

(102,263 posts)
1. Several of the better legal pundits with DOJ experience believe he was provided it under seal.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:04 AM
Jun 2019

This means it won't go public though.

DOJ did likely have an argument about revealing methods and sources, given this all was from phone surveillance. Even Laurence Tribe questioned whether the order by Sullivan might have gone beyond what would be expected.

Of course, I'm disappointed too and who can NOT be skeptical, but Sullivan has shown he is more than capable of playing hardball with DOJ and especially the Trumpistas.

dajoki

(10,678 posts)
3. What did Judge Emmet Sullivan just do?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:23 AM
Jun 2019

What did Judge Emmet Sullivan just do?
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/judge-emmet-sullivan-just-do-what/18433/

On May 16, 2019, Judge Emmet Sullivan ordered prosecutors to make public a transcript of phone calls between Michael Flynn and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak made late in 2016. The judge also ordered that the Flynn-related parts of the Mueller Report be unredacted.

On June 4, via minute order (one that is entered by the judge and made available in a notice), Sullivan wrote: “On May 16, 2019, the Court issued multiple Minute Orders that ordered the government to file on the public docket certain materials and information. Upon consideration of the government’s submissions in response to those orders, the government is not required to file any additional materials or information on the public docket pursuant to the Court’s Orders of May 16, 2019.”

The nature of the minute order from June 4 is much different from what Sullivan demonstrated in prior minute orders and prior statements from the bench regarding the Flynn case. It is unclear what exactly the government submitted that changed Sullivan’s mind, but this is a major shift in his jurisprudence. What we do know is that the Justice Department attorneys filed a statement on Friday claiming that the recordings were not used in establishing Flynn’s guilt or in the sentencing of Flynn.

There are a few possibilities in all of this. One is that whatever is in that recording would put national security at risk if released, including the methods used to capture the call. The more likely possibility is that the Trump administration knows that the actual words contained in the exchange between Kislyak and Flynn would significantly damage Trump because it would show knowledge and coordination with Russia. It is surprising that Judge Sullivan took the government’s word on things and reversed course. The mission to get this transcript revealed in a court of law must continue unabated.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
6. A broken clock is right twice a day....
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jun 2019

I agree that there was probably something in the recording that implicates Trump. After all, Barr is not concerned about "secrets". He wants to investigate the investigators.

It could be the "smoking gun"?

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