PELOSI: "I don't want to see him impeached, I want to see him in prison"

[kpete]

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[BeyondGeography]

1. Nadler is right

Start the inquiry yesterday. The legal basis is clear. If it’s politics you’re worried about, we’ve lost our enthusiasm edge and most people now think Trump will be re-elected. Slow-walking is a political bust.

[Chin music]

3. +1z

We can't even get consistent court enforcement of oversight angles, but, she thinks he'll go to prison? Come on Sister Nancy.
If tht's the hold up, then I'm PRitty sure there's at least TWO crimes there. Impeach him, AND send him to prison. Not mutually exclusive. The guy shits misdemeanors in the morning, and willingly commits felonies the rest of the day.

[procon]

2. LOCK HIM UP!

[enough]

4. He will never be in prison, no more than Kissinger or Cheney or any bankster ever would be.

This is the first time I’ve heard Pelosi say something that rings so false. I’ve been strongly supporting her, but this is insulting.

[OliverQ]

5. She's under the mistaken impression he's going to lose next year.

If he's not impeached, it will send the signal that Trump wasn't bad enough to waste time impeaching.


I'm really losing patience with Pelosi.

[RockRaven]

8. She may be under the impression that impeaching him will DECREASE his odds of losing

Or impeaching him at time X instead of later at time Y will do so. Whether or not that determination is correct, it is hardly a fringe one.

Being in the right and yet out of power is worthless and self-defeating when the other side of the binary choice is Republicans/Trump. So winning matters more than being righteous or morally/idealistically pure.

I do not know for certain that Pelosi has a coherent strategy (though I suspect she does), nor that it is correct (on that question I'm undecided). But I have yet to see persuasive evidence that her behaving differently improves/optimizes the likelihood of getting rid of Trump.

[marylandblue]

10. Exactly, and I agree with her. Because that's how you deal with a narcissist.

To the extent possible, act like he doesn't exist. That's the worst thing you can do to a narcissist. Worse than impeachment. Impeachment gives him the attention he craves, and he will thrive on it. Ignore him and he will hang himself.

Totally counterintuitive and hard to do, but that's only because a narcissistic doesn't think or act like a normal person. That's why Pelosi is the toughest, smartest person in Washington.

[pangaia]

24. " Ignore him and he will hang himself. "

But it is not just him.

He is the front man....

[uponit7771]

29. ... and the US along with him

[ancianita]

20. There can be an impeachment inquiry without a vote all the way up to the 2020 vote.

It can be done. As it reveals corruption and crimes to the general public, the election will go accordingly.

We'll see. But as soon as the next president is sworn in, Trump can be charged and arrested no matter how many Secret Service are nearby.

[Rollo]

31. Yup. Timing is crucial for this to work.

[shanti]

39. Exactly!

Start the impeachment inquiry now and string it along until after the election. That way, Chump can't claim victory from a non vote by the Senate. The American people need to hear everything from now until then, and a lot can come out!

[Pachamama]

6. Does Pelosi have a long game? If so, what exactly is it?

I ask that seriously because I really respect and admire her and I am trying to understand her game plan....

[marylandblue]

12. The plan is to avoid making everything about Trump.

Impeachment is all about Trump. Which is what he wants and his chosen playing field. What Trump doesn't want is discussions of real policy, national values or his lack of accomplishments.

Impeachment makes the conversation about "Donald's a criminal," and "Nancy is a meany." Reduces serious issue to schoolyard taunts and nothing else. You'd think this wouldn't work, but many narcissists achieve great success this way. Chalk it up to our stupid chattering monkey brains.

The House has passed something like 100 bills that languish in the Senate while Trump insults British princesses. Let Trump continue his childish games while Democrats talk to America like adults. That's her plan.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. My guess is that since we missed the optimum time

to begin to impeach (at Mueller report release) when everyone in the world was watching and wondering what the nonpartisan guy who spent two years investigating said ..that we are now in a dry spell.

All that aside, we are now in the "get more crimes" stage. Get docs, get witnesses, etc. Yet not easy since trump stonewalling and not allowing people to talk nor docs released. Maybe courts will rule with us and we can get this show started !!

[ancianita]

21. See my reply above your post.

[Bradical79]

7. Impeach, win, AND imprison

She's not making a lot of sense to me. Do your constitutional duty and start the impeachment inquiry soon. It will certainly fail in the Senate, but that isn't any kind of criminal exoneration. All of Trump's known corruption will be laid out together in the most public way possible. Senate Republicans will be seen showing complete disregard for our Constitution and rule of law. Win the election, then prosecute Trump for his crimes.

Right now the party is looking weak, people are thinking Trump will win, and the GOP is gearing up for another public witch hunt led by AG Barr.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Perfectly stated

[Duppers]

36. +1000

Thank you, Bradical79.

[Skittles]

9. while seeing neither

[Xolodno]

11. I don't think many see the gravity of this situation...

...we've had VP's do time. But never a sitting president.

She's out for blood...and blood to make any one else think twice about running for office if they are corrupt. I think she is right, impeachment is a political theatrics....and something Trump benefits from. Being thrown out of office with no pardon on the other hand... and given his age, could result in his last years inside walls.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Trump benefits from Impeachment? So don't help

him by impeaching him. Makes total sense!

[pangaia]

25. The GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION is that we are losing American democracy,

infrastructure, economy, rights and everything else..

And HE is just the figurehead...

Pence is REALLY dangerous!!!

It is REPUBLICANS that are the traitors. !!!
ALL OF THEM !!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. Agree. Yet tread lightly and don't rock the boat. Just trust !

[pangaia]

40. I don't trust anybody in this situation.

[ALBliberal]

15. Their oath to uphold the constitution requires them to impeach.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. Evidently not

[ALBliberal]

23. I'm hoping they are waiting for public opinion to sway in our favor

Not lots of time for that. History and I believe the voters of next presidential election will not look favorably on the House (that they voted into power) shirking their constitutional duty.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. That would be wonderful, but don't see what the impetus

would be to cause a groundswell. Unless we could actually prove more crimes over and above the clear obstruction that Mueller outlined. It will eventually happen but probably a long way down the road? With all the stonewalling.

[myohmy2]

16. and I...

...want more hair...

...face it folks, trump's looking more and more unstoppable...

...wait until trump does something horribly dangerous and stupid...

...I feel like I'm living in the Weimar Republic...

...have a good day...

[JoeOtterbein]

17. I want to see Nancy, Chick and our other Dem leaders in Congress to Impeach...

...Trump first.

Dang it!

[YOHABLO]

22. What about the other investigations that are on going? There's much to be unraveled.

Regardless whether he is impeached, which will humiliate, more so than have any impact on removal, doesn't the SDNY have reason to indict him as well? I agree, I want him and all of his cabal in prison. Some are already there. The pressure on Pelosi must be tremendous. However, people are angry and they want justice.

[pangaia]

26. "There's much to be unraveled." ?

The USA is being unraveled...!!!

[SunSeeker]

27. Impeach and then imprison. It is not an "either or" proposition. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Still like censure, impeach, imprison

[SunSeeker]

34. We could be censuring every time he tweets. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Yes! Good opinion piece on censure from LA Times

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-ackerman-mueller-impeachment-censure-20190529-story.html

[Ani Yun Wiya]

28. Wow

It's 2006 all over again...

[Midnightwalk]

30. When

The perfect opportune time for action arrives throw the dems a bone like “let’s talk about health care reform but you have to play first”

Don’t worry it’s unlikely that bone will grow into a spine.

[UniteFightBack]

35. And another thing...she knows how to take back a news cycle. nt