House just authorized Chairman Nadler to go to court to enforce subpoenas and obtain grand jury info

[StarfishSaver]

H.Res 430 passed on a straight party line vote, 229-191.

That the chair of the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives is authorized, on behalf of such Committee, to initiate or intervene in any judicial proceeding before a Federal court—

(1) to seek declaratory judgments and any and all ancillary relief, including injunctive relief, affirming the duty of—

(A) William P. Barr, Attorney General, to comply with the subpoena that is the subject of the resolution accompanying House Report 116-105; and

(B) Donald F. McGahn, II, former White House Counsel, to comply with the subpoena issued to him on April 22, 2019; and

(2) to petition for disclosure of information regarding any matters identified in or relating to the subpoenas referred to in paragraph (1) or any accompanying report, pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e), including Rule 6(e)(3)(E) (providing that the court may authorize disclosure of a grand-jury matter “preliminarily to... a judicial proceeding”).

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/430q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hres+430%22%5D%7D&s=3&r=1

[True Blue American]

1. 229 to 191!:)

Nice to be in the Majority!

Trump phoning old friends to see if Biden will beat him.

[sheshe2]

2. K&R

[StarfishSaver]

3. ...

Link to tweet

[MFGsunny]

4. K & R

[mitch96]

5. Drag this out till a few months before the election...

Let EVERYBODY know what they find. Get it ALL out in the open and then.....
VOTE HIM OUT....
M

[Volaris]

20. And then prosecute the everliving fuck out of him ...

As in, I want there to be warrants issued the day before he leaves office, so the secret service puts him out of the helicopter at the front door of the Manhattan DAs Office.

Out of the white house and into a pair of handcuffs .

[mitch96]

32. AGREE!!!!! ........... nt

[Takket]

6. 191 people voted against

Democrats having access to information the “completely exonerates” their president.

🧐

[spooky3]

7. 191 "morally upstanding", "law and order supporting" Rs voted against

following the law.

[iluvtennis]

8. Yep, that's rich isn't it

[ilmare2000]

9. The proof of the pudding is in the eating

I'm waiting patiently but I also want to see results.

Have they received the full Mueller report, and grand jury materials? No.
Have they received Trump's tax returns? No.
Has Mueller, McGahn, etc. testified? No.

I see the reference to grand jury materials but haven't heard much about executive privilege.

[Mr.Bill]

10. The Grand Jury stuff is the gold mine

because Grand Juries are there to investigate criminal activity.

[StarfishSaver]

14. The evidence and testimony in the grand jury may not be THE gold mine - there's something else

Much of the evidence and testimony, while instructive and helpful, may not be as valuable as some think because, I expect, a lot of it won't be able to be released to the public, even if disclosed to the House Members.

One of the most valuable things they can get from the grand jury testimony is WHO testified and WHAT they testified about. With that information, the committee can call those witnesses to testify in their own hearings and ask them the same or similar questions that they were asked in the grand jury - but do it in public - with the witness knowing that they're already on record under oath and, if they change their testimony, they'll be looking at perjury charges.

In other words, even if they don't get ALL of the grand jury material or can't disclose it all to the public, the materials will give them enough information to virtually replicate the grand jury proceedings. The material provide an excellent roadmap.

[former9thward]

33. Witnesses don't have to testify to Congress.

They can take the Fifth.

[LTG]

19. I dont believe impeachment is considered a "judicial" proceeding"

Even though a "trial" is held by the Senate it is under congressional constitutional powers and not those given the judiciary. The Congress would have to make a referral to DOJ, who would then decide whether to charge and the files could be opened to DOJ/FBI for their investigation/judicial proceeding.

I'm not sure if the court will decide that the cited exception applies. Haven't researched it, hopefully someone else has.

[StarfishSaver]

22. The courts have ruled that impeachment proceeding is a judicial proceeding

[LTG]

25. Good to know. Thank you. NT

[YOHABLO]

11. If just one of the Rs House Reps had said yea, they'd be crucified.

[Mr.Bill]

12. Never forget that every republican serving in the current House

voted for the White House to ignore Congressional subpoenas. Never forget.

[patphil]

13. And so the process takes one big step forward.

[Nitram]

15. And so it begins.

[StarfishSaver]

17. It doesn't need to pass the Senate

The House governs itself on these matters without the involvement of the Senate.

[watoos]

18. This speeds up the process

That’s the game that’s being played by Trump, delay until after the election

[former9thward]

34. Not really.

Eric Holder, Obama AG was found in contempt of Congress under exactly the same circumstances. That was delayed until the Trump DOJ finally settled the case.

[orleans]

21. i feel this has taken waaayyyyy too long

and has been rather unnecessary

can we just enforce the subpoenas already???

[StarfishSaver]

23. This is how subpoenas are enforced

Congress can't just do whatever it wants whenever and however it wants. There's a process that must be followed and that's what they're doing. Today's action makes that process move much fast

[Kurt V.]

24. K&R

[ffr]

26. What the Republis have to hide must be damning!

For the lengths they are willing to go; treason, obstruction, breaking every known law and violating every rule of decency known to mankind. It has to be bad.

[triron]

27. WTF don't they vote to hold McGahn in contempt and arrest him?

During Watergate Sam Irving wouldn't have messed around like this.

[Kurt V.]

29. wow. That's pretty dismissive and condescending. this alert worthy. but i dont do that.

[kentuck]

30. Since this is a House matter, does the Senate have a vote on it?

I thought that was already in the law??

Why vote on it at all?

(on edit)

If they are going to ask for subpoenas to to be adhered to, why not ask that they do it expeditiously, with a definite time?

[BigmanPigman]

31. Good, that should fast track

their ability to get more info for the investigations and testimonies.