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PA Governor vetoes public school theft of funds (Original Post) MyOwnPeace Jun 2019 OP
What do you call a private school... BKDem Jun 2019 #1
Thank you Governor Wolf appleannie1943 Jun 2019 #2
All governors should be on board with vetoes for transferring public funds pazzyanne Jun 2019 #3
Well, alright! DFW Jun 2019 #4
My goodness BigOleDummy Jun 2019 #5
glad they have a good gov, maybe they will keep the streak going and vote for a Dem pres. nt yaesu Jun 2019 #6
But for the Russians........ MyOwnPeace Jun 2019 #12
KellyAnne said when she saw Hillary embrace JZ at that rally that Trump just won PA. Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #23
This is great news malaise Jun 2019 #7
Hallelujah!!!!!!!! SergeStorms Jun 2019 #8
This was a bill to expand the existing "Educational Tax Credit" DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #9
Good info, thanks! FakeNoose Jun 2019 #24
The original law was passed during DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #25
Thank you, thank you! mountain grammy Jun 2019 #10
Millions (of PUBLIC Tax Dollars) for religion, zero for women's rights moonseller66 Jun 2019 #11
I like the way you think! MyOwnPeace Jun 2019 #13
How about... moonseller66 Jun 2019 #14
I appreciate and understand......... MyOwnPeace Jun 2019 #18
By the way moonseller66 Jun 2019 #15
Headline reads as if Public zentrum Jun 2019 #16
The headline COULD read Public Schools are thieves... moonseller66 Jun 2019 #17
That's a broad brush stroke MyOwnPeace Jun 2019 #19
Ugh. That's zentrum Jun 2019 #22
Thank you, Governor Wolf. Freedomofspeech Jun 2019 #20
He is also my Governor and I agree. Marie Marie Jun 2019 #21
Gov. Wolf is an absolute treasure Freddie Jun 2019 #26

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
1. What do you call a private school...
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jun 2019

that takes money from the public, and a church school that takes money from the state?

Bullshit

pazzyanne

(6,555 posts)
3. All governors should be on board with vetoes for transferring public funds
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 05:10 PM
Jun 2019

to private and religious schools. If this becomes law, we need to start taxing private and religious schools. Some US taxpayers are upset about their tax money being used to support public education. I can't imagine they would be okay with funding private and religious schools.

DFW

(54,379 posts)
4. Well, alright!
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jun 2019

Pubic funds for religious schools is the equivalent of constitutional blasphemy..

Or, as the OP said, theft.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
12. But for the Russians........
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 08:06 PM
Jun 2019

I can't believe we didn't the last time!
Remember, Hillary's final campaign rally was in Philly.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
9. This was a bill to expand the existing "Educational Tax Credit"
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 07:07 PM
Jun 2019

program that lets companies and individuals donate to private/parochial schools and get a tax credit for it. This bill wanted to double the credit from 100M to 200M. Since Dems picked up 6 seats in the state senate, the Rs no longer hold a supermajority there nor do they have one in the state house. So this bill was for show only.

Here is an interesting tidbit that few Pennsylvanians know. These type tax credit programs are issued on a first come, first serve basis and usually are used up just a few weeks or even days after they become available! Once the money is claimed, that's it, wait 'til next year.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
25. The original law was passed during
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jun 2019

the Ridge/Schweikert administration. Ridge left halfway through his 2nd term to the DHS job in the GW Bush admin. Schweikert finished Ridge's term.

Another interesting factoid, many of the dorms at Penn State main campus are named after PA governors.

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
10. Thank you, thank you!
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jun 2019

The bill he vetoed gave a huge tax shelter to corps for giving to private/public schools..

It would nearly double the Educational Improvement Tax Credit to $210 million annually. The program lets corporations direct tens of millions in tax dollars to favored private and religious schools.


The comments included much whining about school "choice" and union teachers, but most of the comments were favorable and get the concept of public schools.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
11. Millions (of PUBLIC Tax Dollars) for religion, zero for women's rights
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jun 2019

Nail that to the church door next time a Republican screams about public funding for Planned Parenthood or abortions.

While we're at it, how about no public tax dollars for billionaires?

moonseller66

(430 posts)
14. How about...
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 08:15 PM
Jun 2019

No tax dollars for religion UNTIL AND UNLESS we give tax dollars for Women's Rights!

Dollar for dollar.

I can see Republican and Religious heads exploding.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
18. I appreciate and understand.........
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 09:42 PM
Jun 2019

where you're coming from and what point you are making, but - NO!
The constitution is clear (except to some on the Supreme Court and among Republicans):
there is and must always be a clear and concise separation of CHURCH and STATE!
We cannot bargain it away.
We cannot compromise.
We cannot let any of it begin.

But, (and that's no reference to your avatar!), the fight for women's rights could be/should be a way to assure the clear understanding and support of the constitution.

We can settle for no less........



zentrum

(9,865 posts)
16. Headline reads as if Public
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 08:47 PM
Jun 2019

...Schools are the thieves.

Needs to say "Governor vetoes theft of funds from public schools".

At least, I think so.

Great news though!

moonseller66

(430 posts)
17. The headline COULD read Public Schools are thieves...
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 09:00 PM
Jun 2019

Maybe Public Schools aren't "The Thief" but they are definitely "a" thief (and most times need not be).
Having served on a school board and seen the BS, cronyism, backroom deals and capitulation to certain groups at the local tax payer's expense, I can emphatically say Public Schools definitely are as close to thievery as you can get.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
19. That's a broad brush stroke
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 09:49 PM
Jun 2019

you are applying to school boards.
You are correct - for some.
Sadly, perhaps, too many.
But, here again, it is up to the public to be active and involved in what is happening in their government - both locally, regionally, and nationally.
As an educator, both in the classroom and as an administrator, I've indeed seen the things you've mentioned. But, I've also see active, quality school boards consistently step up and do the "right thing" - politics be damned.
Not much different from what we're seeing in DC these days, is it?

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
26. Gov. Wolf is an absolute treasure
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jun 2019

Singlehandedly keeping PA from going full Alabama. If the eventual Dem nominee does not choose one of the other candidates as a running mate, Tom Wolf would be awesome. And we’d win PA for sure.

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