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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:13 PM Jun 2019

Boo hoo hoo. I'm being mistreated.

I've rerun this a bunch of times. Here we go again.

Jefferson was fortunate enough to live in a time of complete civility in politics, so unlike today.

Well, maybe not.

Let me know when it gets to this level.

Here's a message for everyone who feel politics used to be more civil in the good old days. No, it wasn't. I post this picture every time someone at DU says that politics has hit a new low.

Jefferson was one of the most detested presidents ever. People just loathed him.

He was fortunate enough to live in a time of complete civility in politics, so unlike today.

Thomas Jefferson - The West

The prairie dog sickened at the sting of the hornet or a diplomatic puppet exhibiting his deceptions

James Akin's earliest-known signed cartoon, "The Prairie Dog" is an anti-Jefferson satire, relating to Jefferson's covert negotiations for the purchase of West Florida from Spain in 1804. Jefferson, as a scrawny dog, is stung by a hornet with Napoleon's head into coughing up "Two Millions" in gold coins, (the secret appropriation Jefferson sought from Congress for the purchase). On the right dances a man (possibly a French diplomat) with orders from French minister Talleyrand in his pocket and maps of East Florida and West Florida in his hand. He says, "A gull for the People."


It's No Laughing Matter - Analyzing Political Cartoons
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Boo hoo hoo. I'm being mistreated. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2019 OP
What little I have read on the kind of thing... Thomas Hurt Jun 2019 #1
Good post. I bemoan our lack of knowledge of history, interest in researching the past, and hlthe2b Jun 2019 #2
American History, saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #4
He must have gone apoplectic over the Louisiana Purchase Cartoonist Jun 2019 #3
Good reminder. Also, for anyone who thinks we live in an unprecedented era of election cheating... TygrBright Jun 2019 #5
The election of 1800 Adsos Letter Jun 2019 #6

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. What little I have read on the kind of thing...
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jun 2019

No President has been spared being accused of all sorts of immoral and criminals acts, with the possible exception of Washington.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
2. Good post. I bemoan our lack of knowledge of history, interest in researching the past, and
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jun 2019

thus the inability to provide context nor fail to learn from past mistakes.

(as my sigline makes clear, this is very important to me)

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
4. American History,
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jun 2019

in books and documents written by our Revolutionary leaders, is diluted beyond recognition in some public and private school text books. My comment states my agreement that history is very important.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
3. He must have gone apoplectic over the Louisiana Purchase
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:32 PM
Jun 2019

I had to shake my head then put it in my palm after hearing some wingnut, living in Alaska, complain about government spending.

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
5. Good reminder. Also, for anyone who thinks we live in an unprecedented era of election cheating...
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jun 2019

...I recommend you study some of the history of electoral fraud, corruption and violence.

Google:

Bleeding Kansas election
Pineapple Primary
Pendergast Bloody Tuesday
Wasco County election poisoning
Bloody Monday Louisville
Broderick's vigilantes
Organized crime and the 1960 Election (Hoffa vs Giancana)
"The Vote That Failed"

...and of course "Tammany Hall", "Chicago Machine", "Huey P. Long" and so many, many more.

Technology is just providing new ways for American would-be power brokers to pursue a long tradition of electoral chicanery.

wearily,
Bright

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
6. The election of 1800
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jun 2019

One of the nastier elections in our history. Jefferson was openly accused of being the Antichrist, among other things.
Great book on the subject:

A Magnificent Catastrophe: The Tumultuous Election of 1800, America’s First Presidential Campaign.

(Sorry, can’t post the link from my phone)

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