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George Taki:.yes, they are concentration camps. I was in 2 of them in WW2. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 OP
K&R murielm99 Jun 2019 #1
Sad when it happened during WWII pazzyanne Jun 2019 #2
The people claiming these are not concentration camps IronLionZion Jun 2019 #3
excellent point. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #4
except this hfojvt Jun 2019 #8
Mike Godwin has stated the comparisons are valid IronLionZion Jun 2019 #9
You may have been taught that, but it is still incorrect. Saviolo Jun 2019 #12
"...You can call them summer camps if you like..." deurbano Jun 2019 #14
Auschwitz was a complex of camps. Red Pest Jun 2019 #20
No they are concentration camps. Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #53
Thank you. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #21
Auschwitz proper and Dachau were not death camps, but rather concentration camp obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #35
You say the purpose is to say "trump is as bad as hitler" as if we all know that's false unblock Jun 2019 #28
the logical flaw in this is... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #31
Cages are cages True Blue American Jun 2019 #41
Why not include the other part? Midnightwalk Jun 2019 #51
You conflate the words 'imply' and 'infer'. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #52
+1,000 malaise Jun 2019 #33
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #39
Manzanar - Inyo County, California DemoTex Jun 2019 #5
Sou desu ne そうですね。 yuiyoshida Jun 2019 #16
I think that is an Ansel Adams photo from a little known book of his on Manzanar. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #17
Thanks Bernardo! DemoTex Jun 2019 #19
That photo is as good as any in that Ansel Adams book. I just checked my copy. Well done! Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #24
Born Free and Equal Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #30
Here is a link to Adams' website regarding this ... with a slideshow UpInArms Jun 2019 #46
Thanks! He made his stand for what he believed. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #47
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #6
People use "concentration camp" to mean "death camp" DavidDvorkin Jun 2019 #7
but most of us are not that old hfojvt Jun 2019 #10
It's time to update people's incorrect beliefs, then. Saviolo Jun 2019 #13
That's why so many of us are correcting erroneous information dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #32
actually, older. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #22
I didn't mean that it originated in the Boer War DavidDvorkin Jun 2019 #23
Interesting dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #36
That is, as you have described it, genocide. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #26
You loaded Google by Googling "German concentration camp" cannabis_flower Jun 2019 #15
My radical pacifist grandfather got beaten bloody by the cops for protesting the internment... hunter Jun 2019 #11
That grandfather sounds like this guy, only in California gratuitous Jun 2019 #25
Takei Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #18
I remember reading It Can't Happen Here, which was published in 1935.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #27
Also, gulag. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #37
Hitler started the same way Trump is trying to do now. True Blue American Jun 2019 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jun 2019 #29
But I met the woman who lobbied True Blue American Jun 2019 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jun 2019 #54
No problem! True Blue American Jun 2019 #55
NPR 2012 lostnfound Jun 2019 #34
Agreed. Rumor is that cremation ovens have probably already been ordered. nt MadDAsHell Jun 2019 #38
That is not funny! True Blue American Jun 2019 #44
I'm not joking. nt MadDAsHell Jun 2019 #45
I know.:) True Blue American Jun 2019 #56
Either way, they flip flopped MasonDreams Jun 2019 #40
Did the gov't deny soap and toothpaste to the Japanese-Americans? keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #48
K & R & Retweeted SunSeeker Jun 2019 #49
The Nazi Concentration Camps were Precursors to Their Death Camps dlk Jun 2019 #50

pazzyanne

(6,552 posts)
2. Sad when it happened during WWII
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jun 2019

and even sadder today. I hate what the tRump administration is doing on our southern border. It is hard to believe there are so many Americans who cannot see the humanitarian crisis that has been created in the "melting pot" of the world! Not my America!!!

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
3. The people claiming these are not concentration camps
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jun 2019

look quite different from the people being detained in them.

Kind of like the folks who claim slavery and segregation weren't so bad.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
8. except this
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jun 2019

to quote wiki

"As a result, the term "concentration camp" today is sometimes conflated with the concept of "extermination camp" and historians debate whether the term "concentration camp" or "internment camp" should be used to describe other examples of civilian internment."

except that "to conflate" implies a deliberate act.

We were straight up TAUGHT to call Auschwitz (and the other Nazi camps) a concentration camp. Well, if Auschwitz is a concentration camp, then something that is UNlike Auschwitz is NOT. That is, if it does not have a large body count, then it should not be compared (or conflated) with something which does.

Pretty clearly, the purpose of calling these concentration camps here is to imply "Trump is as bad as Hitler".

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
9. Mike Godwin has stated the comparisons are valid
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:02 PM
Jun 2019



He's had to call out a lot of people for invoking Godwin's law lately

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
12. You may have been taught that, but it is still incorrect.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:07 PM
Jun 2019

There Auschwitz and Dachau were death camps, and there were people herded into concentration camps for years before they started murdering them in death camps. There were also labour camps, and they all fell under the general definition of a concentration camp.

The nazis were not the first nor the last to use concentration camps, and the internment camps in the USA and Canada were concentration camps, much as the detention camps at the US/Mexico border today are.

Any pearl clutching over the terminology used to describe these camps is at the expense of the humans currently being held there. You can call them summer camps if you like, but that doesn't make them not concentration camps.

The internment camps in the USA and Canada were just rebranded to divorce them from the horror of the camps in Germany, and apparently it has worked.

I cannot recommend enough Robert Evans' podcast episode about the history of concentration camps:
https://www.behindthebastards.com/podcasts/concentration-camps-are-back-so-lets-talk-about-their-history.htm

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
14. "...You can call them summer camps if you like..."
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:20 PM
Jun 2019

Don't forget to give Laura Ingraham "credit" for that lovely euphemism. I particularly appreciate her use of air quotes as she says "separated children":


Red Pest

(288 posts)
20. Auschwitz was a complex of camps.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 03:08 PM
Jun 2019

From Wikipedia:

The Auschwitz concentration camp (Konzentrationslager Auschwitz) was a complex of over 40 concentration and extermination camps built and operated by Nazi Germany in occupied Poland during World War II and the Holocaust. It consisted of Auschwitz I, the main camp (Stammlager) and administrative headquarters in Oświęcim; Auschwitz II–Birkenau, a combined concentration and extermination camp three kilometers away in Brzezinka; Auschwitz III–Monowitz, a labor camp created to staff an IG Farben synthetic-rubber factory; and dozens of other subcamps... Of the estimated 1.3 million people sent to Auschwitz, at least 1.1 million died, around 90 percent of them Jews.


What the Trump gang have set up are not death camps or work camps, but detention camps, but they do concentrate undocumented immigrants in unpleasant settings. They have separated families. They plan to deport as many as they can back to the places that they fled. They fled climate change and violence. They are willing to do the jobs that most Americans will not do (including working at a Trump property) so their children will have a better life - just like our parents or grandparents or great grandparents.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
35. Auschwitz proper and Dachau were not death camps, but rather concentration camp
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 07:38 PM
Jun 2019

The Auschwitz subcamp, Birkenau-Auschwitz, was a death subcamp (and was also the main women's camp).

unblock

(52,223 posts)
28. You say the purpose is to say "trump is as bad as hitler" as if we all know that's false
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:59 PM
Jun 2019

But the very reason for alarm is that *we don't know that yet*.

Hitler's entire story played out. It's all history. All the steps toward genocide, from rhetoric to separation to maltreatment to killing and finally to mass killing on a huge scale.

Trump's story has yet to play out in full. We don't know what his body count will be. What we do know is that some of the steps are alarmingly similar to hitler's and others' that have ended up in genocide.

Just because he's not now just like hitler 1944 doesn't mean comparisons to hitler 1933 aren't valid.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
31. the logical flaw in this is...
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 06:45 PM
Jun 2019

The German camps were called concentration camps, because at first they were. The inmates were used as labor, but expendable labor.
It wasn't until later that they became death camps, either thru shooting ( at first) and then gassing.
Because of that horrific use of the camps, people equated the term concentration camp with death camp.

Which overshadowed the fact that concentration camps before and after than were also places where victims died of disease, starvation , brutality, or could be places where those extremes were not put into place,like the more benign Japanese "internment camps" of WW2, which, btw, were also used in Canada and Britain, in WW2.

The reason people are uncomfortable with the term now, today, is because the immigrants are not being murdered en masse.

"Never forget" doesn't mean "look out for death camps". It means "look out for conditions that led TO the death camps"
Mass overcrowding which can lead to disease is happening now, here at the camps

Last months DHS Inspector General's report says exactly that:

severe overcrowding

A cell with a maximum capacity of 12 held 76 detainees
a cell with a maximum capacity of 8 held 41 detainees
a cell with a maximum capacity of 35 held 155 detainees

Border Patrol agents told us some of the detainees had been held in standing-room-only conditions for days or weeks.

We also observed staff discarding all other detainee property, such as backpacks, suitcases, and handbags, in the nearby dumpster.

We are concerned that overcrowding and prolonged detention represent an immediate risk to the health and safety not just of the detainees, but also DHS agents and officers.

With limited access to showers and clean clothing, detainees were wearing soiled clothing for days or weeks.

We also observed detainees standing on toilets in the cells to make room and gain breathing space, thus limiting access to the toilets.
Although CBP headquarters management has been aware of the situation at PDT for months and detailed staff to assist with custody management, DHS has not identified a process to alleviate issues with overcrowding.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/Mga/2019/oig-19-46-may19-mgmtalert.pdf

the death rate is increasing, as of this week ICE reports 24 deaths.
There are reports from many areas that mumps, measles, and chicken pox has broken out. The conditins are ripe for contagious epidemics that effect not only the camp victims but also the guards and staff, which has resulted in high staff turnover.
We are concerned that overcrowding and prolonged detention represent an immediate risk to the health and safety not just of the detainees, but also DHS agents and officers. Border Patrol management on site said
there is a high incidence of illness among their staff. Border Patrol management at PDT and other sites also raised concerns about employee morale and that conditions were elevating anxiety and affecting employees’ personal lives
They noted that some employees eligible for retirement had accelerated their retirement dates, while others were
considering alternative employment opportunities.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
41. Cages are cages
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 03:41 AM
Jun 2019

Any way you view them. And I can show you pictures taken with a small Brownie camera of those you are teaching about.

These cages are just as much Concentration camps as those. The difference is they have not turned into Extermination Camps yet, although we are seeing children held in horrible conditions and some are starting to die. Do we have to wait to call them what they really are?

Do you think Hitler did not start the same way?

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
51. Why not include the other part?
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:48 AM
Jun 2019
Holocaust scholars draw a distinction between concentration camps (described in this article) and extermination camps, which were established by Nazi Germany for the industrial-scale mass murder of Jews in the ghettos by way of gas chambers.


And of course you know the term dates from 1897, has been used widely prior to the holocaust and the use in Germany started in 1933.

If I wanted to be as one sided I would say that clearly the refusal to call them concentration camps is to downplay the severity of what is happening.

Your argument is not logical. Some rectangles are squares. Some things that aren’t squares are still rectangles.

The policy of separation is to intimidate migrants by brutalizing them. It also dehumanizes them.

The right answer to anyone saying these camps are not as bad as anything the Nazis did is “when that become the criteria for what is acceptable”.

I’m not sure what the best tem is, but I reject the suggested replacements because they don’t have negative enough connotations. The part you excerpted includes the word debate.

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DemoTex

(25,397 posts)
5. Manzanar - Inyo County, California
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jun 2019


Manzanar is most widely known as the site of one of ten American concentration camps where over 120,000 Japanese Americans were incarcerated during World War II from December 1942 to 1945.

DemoTex

(25,397 posts)
19. Thanks Bernardo!
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:51 PM
Jun 2019

I shot the watch-tower photo in October 2013. I should have known that the site was closed during the government shutdown. I showed up to find locked gates. But I did get a few good shots from the road.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
24. That photo is as good as any in that Ansel Adams book. I just checked my copy. Well done!
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jun 2019

For one thing, the verticals are nicely vertical, like Adams. The blue of sky is nicely dark, as Adams strove for. The composition is balanced. The lighting is good. You've made everything work for you in that photo.

It might be a surprise to some that 90 percent of the photos in the book are of people.

The book cover says

Manzanar
Photographs by Ansel Adams
Commentary by John Hersey
By John Armor and Peter Wright

Published by Times Books, 1988.

It says some photographs were used earlier in a book by Ansel Adams called "Born Free and Equal" (1944).

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
30. Born Free and Equal
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jun 2019

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Born Free and Equal:
The Story of Loyal Japanese-Americans Born Free and Equal
Author Ansel Adams
Illustrator Ansel Adams
Country United States
Language English
Subject Internees at the Manzanar War Relocation Center, 1943–4.
Genre Photography books
Publisher U.S. Camera, New York
Publication date 1944
Media type Hardcover
Pages 112 p. illus. (incl. ports.)

Born Free and Equal: The Story of Loyal Japanese-Americans is a book by Ansel Adams containing photographs from his 1943–1944 visit to the internment camp then named Manzanar War Relocation Center[1] in Owens Valley, Inyo County, California. The book was published in 1944 by U.S. Camera in New York.

In the summer of 1943, Adams was invited by his friend, newly appointed camp director Ralph Merritt, to photograph life at the camp. The project and the accompanying book and exhibition at the MoMA created a significant amount of controversy, partly owing to the subject matter. World War II was still being fought and the animosity against Americans of Japanese descent was high, especially on the West Coast.

Adams was not the only photographer to take pictures in Manzanar. Before him, Dorothea Lange had visited all eleven Japanese-American internment camps[citation needed] while a staff photographer for the War Relocation Authority. During Lange's visit in 1942, the camp was a less organized state and Lange was driven to portray the injustice of the relocation project, leading to a harsher and less optimistic portrayal of camp life than Adams's. The third photographer was internee Toyo Miyatake, previously a studio photographer in Los Angeles. Miyatake initially took photos with an improvised camera fashioned from parts he smuggled into the camp. His activity was discovered after nine months, but Merritt supported the endeavor and allowed him to have his stored studio equipment shipped to the camp and continue the project (initially a camp guard had to release the shutter for him after Miyatake had positioned the camera). Miyatake and Adams met and befriended each other at the camp, while Lange's and Adams's visits did not overlap.

Adams's goal in the project was twofold: to stress the good American citizenship of the internees, as conveyed in the subtitle of the book, "The Story of Loyal Japanese-Americans"; and to show their ability to cope with the situation:

The purpose of my work was to show how these people, suffering under a great injustice, and loss of property, businesses and professions, had overcome the sense of defeat and dispair [sic] by building for themselves a vital community in an arid (but magnificent) environment…All in all, I think this Manzanar Collection is an important historical document, and I trust it can be put to good use. (Ansel Adams, 1965.[2])

Adams donated his collection of Manzanar photos to the Library of Congress in 1965.[3] In 2001, Spotted Dog Press published an updated version of Born Free and Equal with a foreword by Archie Miyatake, son of Manzanar photographer Toyo Miyatake.[4] The new version of the book has on the front cover a photo of Joyce Okazaki (née Nakamura), one of the children Adam's photographed.[1]

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DavidDvorkin

(19,477 posts)
7. People use "concentration camp" to mean "death camp"
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jun 2019

But there is an older meaning. The British confined Boer families in concentration camps during the Boer War. It's an old concept and an old term.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
10. but most of us are not that old
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:02 PM
Jun 2019

Not even an old guy like me who learned that "concentration camp" was "what the NAZIs had".

I believe that is how most people understand the term, at least in America.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
13. It's time to update people's incorrect beliefs, then.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:10 PM
Jun 2019

Nazis were neither the first not the last to use concentration camps, and they have been used by Canada and the United States, though rebranded and remarketed. They're being used right now on the US/Mexico border.

If the bar we're looking for is "they're not exterminating millions of people, yet." then I don't even know what to say.

I cannot recommend enough Robert Evans' podcast episode about the history of concentration camps:
https://www.behindthebastards.com/podcasts/concentration-camps-are-back-so-lets-talk-about-their-history.htm

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
32. That's why so many of us are correcting erroneous information
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 06:47 PM
Jun 2019

and providing sources for those who need to update their world view.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. actually, older.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:08 PM
Jun 2019


US gov. did same for American Indians in early 1800's.....and again when they took over the Philippines 1898.

except their modus operandi was to kill as many adult males as they could, round up and confine the woman and young cihildren, then remove children under age 10 to gov't owned "boarding schools" and brainwash them to act like americans.
No speaking their native tongue, no long hair, etc. to erase the Indian/Philippine culture.

Isolating a group based on race/ethnicity, "concentrating" them in a certain area by force, without charges or trial, keeping them from leaving by force/threats/barriers
is an act of genocide.

Once the Stephen Millers of the gov.have created the means, who will be next?
trump has told us who...
.Journalists.
Gays.
Dissenting lawmakers.( altho they have usually been killed, history tells us.)
other anti-authoritarian writers ( Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, anyone?)
college and other school teachers who protest.
and, no doubt, those "nasty" women.






DavidDvorkin

(19,477 posts)
23. I didn't mean that it originated in the Boer War
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jun 2019

I was just referring to that as an older usage, one that I'm familiar with because I grew up in S. Africa.

Interestingly, according to the following source, the term itself did originate with the Boer War:
https://www.historyonthenet.com/what-is-a-concentration-camp

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. Interesting
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 08:01 PM
Jun 2019

Wonder what they called the ones they used in the Philippines.
and, did I mention, they used waterboarding in the Philippines, but I don't know if they called it that. The picture I saw was very much like the ones we know of in Iraq.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
15. You loaded Google by Googling "German concentration camp"
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:23 PM
Jun 2019

Try Googling just "concentration camp"

Of course, you get all the news about AOC but you also get the definition.

con·cen·tra·tion camp
/ˌkänsənˈtrāSHən ˈˌkamp/
noun
a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz.


All this talk about devaluing the holocaust is really just peddling right wing talking points. Give me a break. If the shoe fits wear it.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
11. My radical pacifist grandfather got beaten bloody by the cops for protesting the internment...
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jun 2019

... of his Japanese friends and neighbors.

One of my mom's friends escaped internment because her family had fled to work for deeply religious ranchers in Utah. This same white religious family had taken over management of the Japanese family's California farms during the war.

Unlike so many Japanese families who had everything they'd worked for stolen during the war by false utterly evil "Good Christian" friends, my mom's friend's family was able to return to their farm after the war in good financial shape, just as they'd left it.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. That grandfather sounds like this guy, only in California
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:38 PM
Jun 2019
http://encyclopedia.densho.org/Floyd_Schmoe/

I saw a dramatization of Gordon Hirabayashi's story in a play called "Hold These Truths." Well worth seeing if a production is put on anywhere near you.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
27. I remember reading It Can't Happen Here, which was published in 1935....
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jun 2019

...and was inspired by the rise of Hitler and Nazi Germany.

Towards the end of the book, they describe a concentration camp for political prisoners being set up in the newly fascist United States.

I remember being a little surprised because before then, I always lumped Nazi concentration camps in with specifically the Holocaust and the murdering of Jewish and other minorities. And in 1935, that had not even yet taken place as it pertained to the Holocaust.

It wasn't until I had done further reading--for example, Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands--where I learned that the Nazis used concentration camps--although not the notorious death camps--for the purposes of detaining political prisoners long before they started using them for Jews and others. And that even after the Holocaust began, not all concentration camps were designed as death camps per se.

So without proper historical context, people get thrown off by the term "concentration camp" but it really is an apt term for what is going on with immigrants in 2019. As well as what happened with Japanese Americans during World War II.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
37. Also, gulag.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 08:09 PM
Jun 2019

The inmates being un-wanted nationalities when Russia took over countries, including Jews, and for political prisoners.
Same idea.
A group of political prisoners, or a minority group, etc...all the same.

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True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
43. But I met the woman who lobbied
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 04:45 AM
Jun 2019

to get them $20,000 each. She was Japanese, married to an American paratrooper.

I met them while attending Paratrooper Conventions. She only came twice because frankly there was still a great deal of feelings from those who fought the Japanese.

She succeeded in getting the bill passed. That was a pretty good amount of money at that time when you could buy a nice house for $10,000.

So your memory is wrong. Sorry.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/09/210138278/japanese-internment-redress

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True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
55. No problem!
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 05:56 PM
Jun 2019

Just so happened I met her at the Dinners. Her husband Jack was a buddy of my best friends husband. Came to know him very well when my Friends husband had a massive heart attack while we were in San Antonio. He stayed right with us.

It would be easy to pass over. She was not popular with the former paratroopers.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
34. NPR 2012
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 07:37 PM
Jun 2019

“To compare the Japanese internment camps to the Nazi or communist concentration camps is beyond offensive to the Jewish community and any reasonably intelligent American. ... But a concentration camp, such as those operated by the British during the Boer War, does not in and of itself suggest atrocity.Feb 10, 2012“

https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2012/02/10/146691773/euphemisms-concentration-camps-and-the-japanese-internment

It notes that internment camp is not even in the dictionary they use.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
40. Either way, they flip flopped
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:58 AM
Jun 2019

They were holocaust deniers. Also it is summer in the seriously hot desert, being caged and disrespected. Hell can't be much worse and it is imaginary.

keithbvadu2

(36,800 posts)
48. Did the gov't deny soap and toothpaste to the Japanese-Americans?
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:39 AM
Jun 2019

Did the gov't deny soap and toothpaste to the Japanese-Americans?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212204741

Trump Admin argues in court-they are not required to give soap or toothbrushes to detained children

dlk

(11,566 posts)
50. The Nazi Concentration Camps were Precursors to Their Death Camps
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:25 AM
Jun 2019

More Republicans should pick up and actually read a history book.

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