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CNN)An Alabama megachurch plans to start its own police force thanks to a new law permitting the church to do just that.
The law, signed by Gov. Kay Ivey, authorizes Briarwood Presbyterian to "appoint and employ one or more suitable persons to act as police officers to protect the property of the school or academy."
A similar bill was proposed four years ago, but it was dropped by the Alabama legislature amid a public outcry over the Presbyterian Church in America's racist history, as well as criticism that the bill was unconstitutional and violated the Establishment Clause's separation of church and state. Briarwood Presbyterian is part of the PCA.
Briarwood Presbyterian's congregation is overwhelmingly white. Nearby Birmingham is two-thirds black.
The PCA is a conservative denomination that originated early 1970s Alabama. In 2016 it apologized for "racial sins" that included "the segregation of worshipers by race" as well as "the participation in and defense of white supremacist organizations," among other things.
Officials at Briarwood Presbyterian Church say that a police force is necessary in order to adequately protect its 4,100 members, including 2,000 students and faculty on its two campusus.
The church hopes its new security force will keep intruders and prevent trespassers from accessing the property, it said in a press release that was posted by CNN affiliate WBRC.
More: https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/21/politics/alabama-megachurch-police-force-trnd/index.html
************ They just can't hire security guards????
safeinOhio
(32,676 posts)and prayers.
rurallib
(62,414 posts)What exactly does the term 'police officer' mean exactly? Does it imply the 'officer; can employ deadly force? Where exactly does the 'officer' have jurisdiction? Maybe this is spelled out in the bill, but if not I suspect there will be problems almost immediately.
And if the Presbyterians can have their own police, I suspect other denominations and churches will want the same.
Just seems to open to abuse.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)rurallib
(62,414 posts)just for that reason. If Muslims and Satanic Temples and {gawd forbid} ATHEISTS could have their own cops why it would be chaos. It's OK as long as it's just the Presbyterians!
Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)The Presbyterian churches around here are very liberal, the exact opposite of white supremacist. I wonder whats the deal with the Alabama church.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)I hate her almost as much as Agent Orange.
Hotler
(11,421 posts)Fla Dem
(23,667 posts)I agree. I'm not sure what the difference is between having their own"police force", and hiring a security firm to patrol their campus. If they're paid by the state or community, then I would see a problem. But if paid by the church I'm not seeing it. I'm no fan of these churches, but don't see the issue.
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https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734591147/new-alabama-law-permits-church-to-hire-its-own-police-force
Ohiogal
(31,998 posts)Wouldnt the state crap their pants if a mosque petitioned to do the exact same thing. And how can they justify favoritism in letting only one specific religion do this and not another.
Overall, it still baffles me that they cant just hire security guards. I think something is missing from what theyre telling us.
Fla Dem
(23,667 posts)But I still don't understand the distinction between a security officer and a police officer. Many security officers are retired police officers. Why would that give the state authority over these "policemen". If that's the case, the church should lose their tax exemption.
I feel sorry for our Alabama DUer's, their state is pretty messed up right now. Florida isn't too far behind, so I feel their pain.
dameatball
(7,397 posts)the taxpayers wouldn't be footing that bill for a tax exempt church/BUSINESS.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Who is paying for this "police force"? How will they be different from having hired security guards? I really hope that public tax dollars aren't footing the bill for this. I am suspicious because this needed to be signed off on by the Governor. If they were just going to hire security and pay for them out of their own funds, why would the governor's signature be necessary for that?