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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:23 AM

Adam Schiff on Impeachment: "I'm Not Prepared To Recommend It"


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Reply Adam Schiff on Impeachment: "I'm Not Prepared To Recommend It" (Original post)
brooklynite Jun 2019 OP
Fullduplexxx Jun 2019 #1
world wide wally Jun 2019 #2
brooklynite Jun 2019 #4
shanny Jun 2019 #10
triron Jun 2019 #13
Princetonian Jun 2019 #3
world wide wally Jun 2019 #5
Princetonian Jun 2019 #7
shanny Jun 2019 #11
Princetonian Jun 2019 #15
shanny Jun 2019 #16
Princetonian Jun 2019 #19
shanny Jun 2019 #20
Princetonian Jun 2019 #21
triron Jun 2019 #17
Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #9
triron Jun 2019 #14
4139 Jun 2019 #6
shanny Jun 2019 #8
treestar Jun 2019 #12
CaptainTruth Jun 2019 #18

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:39 AM

1. Yes cause it isnt clear as to whether or not trump ..... oh never mind

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:15 AM

2. As Trump gets bolder and bolder, the Dems get more and more timid.

Thinking this will somehow get us more votes is like saying billionaire tax cuts generate more revenue

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:50 AM

4. Why can't he simply listen to the emotional demands of the blogosphere?

It's as if he thought he had some political experience or something.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:46 AM

10. what BS

 

76% of the party ain't the "blogosphere"

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Response to shanny (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:14 PM

13. For sure.

Schiff has me very consternated and somewhat depressed. What in the world does he want to see
beyond what we now know? This is just insane.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:24 AM

3. It's a waste of time, the same as it was when Republicans did it to Clinton.

 

Right after they impeached Clinton, voters punished Republicans at the ballot box.

Impeachment won't get rid of Chump. Let's focus on 2020.

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Response to Princetonian (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:09 AM

5. 100% wrong

The Repubes took the house, the senate and the next Presidential election.
Also... they are not even remotely similar is scope. One had to do with getting a blowjob while the other is about the President fucking the Constitution and the public.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:42 AM

7. I refer to the midterm elections not 2000.

 

I did not say they were "similar in scope" by the way. I merely think it is a colossal waste of political capital leading to an election year.

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Response to Princetonian (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:47 AM

11. lol

 

what political capital do you think Democrats will have leading into a election year if they don't do their damn jobs?

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Response to shanny (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:20 PM

15. They are doing quite well under Pelosi's guidance.

 

They were not elected to impeach Chump. I trust the Democratic leadership to navigate the next 1.5 years.

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Response to Princetonian (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:24 PM

16. sez who? you?

 

From where I sit they look scattered, ineffective and weak...oh and WAY too often surprised by the actions of pukes, elected and not.

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Response to shanny (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:15 PM

19. Sez every single poll.

 

From where I look and from the people I interact with everyday they look fine. Then again, I am busy volunteering for my local Democratic party to GOTV in Philly.

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Response to Princetonian (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:18 PM

20. every single poll of what, exactly?

 

because I have a poll that says 76% of Democrats are in favor of impeachment.

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Response to shanny (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:39 PM

21. Voters approving of Democrats over Republicans in almost every category of question

 

I do not agree with impeachment for the reasons I told you.

I am glad that Nancy Pelosi is not guided by polls for her decisions regarding the efficacy of impeachment. If you recall, there were calls to impeach Dubya as well that she resisted.

Polls are fickle and are snapshots in time. Last year, the polls showed only a minority of voters wanted impeachment. Next year, candidates will be busy. The last thing I want is all the media time being used up to cover useless impeachment proceedings and Chump's self-righteous denials. I want the focus to be on the Democratic candidate though Reply #18 sets up a scenario which I can agree is a good approach which will drive public opinion to our side.

Winning in 2020 is everything to me. That's pretty much common sense. I detest Chump but if you and others want to make these kind of decisions based on emotion, have at it but do not expect me to join you. When he is out of office, I expect lots of civil and criminal litigation to begin. He will spend the rest of his life fighting legal battles that all but the worst lawyers will take on though even they know he never pays his lawyers (see Michael Cohen).

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Response to Princetonian (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:25 PM

17. Even if true it is irrelevant.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:43 AM

9. This is so true.

Of course the Media pushed the Blowjob as a Historic Crime of the Century. And during this same era,the Media became a Corporate Function and a Infotainment Business rather than a News and Information Business.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:17 PM

14. And committing treason to win the WH plus being a serial rapist and a crook. This is ridiculous.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:25 AM

6. Mueller is afraid to testify, they need to subpoena Mueller!

Canít move foreword till mueller testifies

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:43 AM

8. wrong question:

 

are you prepared to open a blanket impeachment inquiry?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:50 AM

12. It appears his reasoning is that he wants a court order

that the administration comply with subpoenas and for the administration to still refuse. The interview isn't long enough (or the clip) for him to explain why he requires that standard.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:36 PM

18. They want Trump to defy a court order, that raises the stakes & builds public support.


We all know the Senate won't convict/remove Trump, therefore impeaching him won't change anything. Given that sad fact, the best we can hope for is to do maximum damage to him & all Repubs who support him at the ballot box. The way to do that is with continued hearings (educating more of the public about his crimes) & pushing him to the point of defying a court order, which is where all the lawsuits are going.

Once he defies a court order, the courts enter the picture in an enforcement role, on our side. It becomes 2 against 1 (Congress & the courts against Trump) & the battle that plays out is Trump fighting the courts (a matter of justice & lawbreaking) instead of Trump fighting Democrats, which appears far more partisan & makes it easy for Trump/GOP to spin as just more of the "politically-motivated deep state Democrat coup attempt."

IMHO, setting this up as a battle between Trump & the courts, as Dems are doing, is the smartest approach & yields the best possible outcome for our side in 2020 & beyond.

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