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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:53 PM

NBC "HOT TAKE" on Trump's "Concentration Camps"

AOC was right to compare Trump's border internment camps to concentration camps
By Andi Zeisler
We're debating the description of forced extrajudicial detainment of a rhetorically demonized racial minority in harsh, punitive conditions.

Oregon became the 11th state in the nation to mandate that public schools teach students about the Holocaust and other genocides, just last month. As an American Jew, who attended public school in the late 1970s and 1980s, I was surprised to hear that learning about a defining piece of world history apparently requires specific legislation...

Before you could ask “war profiteer’s daughter says what?” Twitter had become a pedantic Hydra of arguments that were less about the actual existence of such camps than about what we should be calling them. (For the record, concentration-camp historians agree that using the general term “concentration camp” to describe conditions at the border is accurate.)

Since Cheney mentioned it, though, there’s a reason that people — mostly, but not exclusively, Jewish people — say “Never again” when referring to the Holocaust...

But it’s also a shibboleth against complacency, a reminder that what happened in those camps didn’t happen overnight, but were the yield of an ideological campaign involving the active persecution of groups deemed inferior...
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/aoc-was-right-compare-trump-s-border-internment-camps-concentration-ncna1019381


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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:45 PM

1. The most researched term on merriam Webster Dictionary on June 18th was concentration camps

Concentration camp was our top lookup on June 18th, 2019, following the use of the word by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and subsequent contretemps over whether such was appropriate or not.

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the liberal freshman Democrat from New York who has made fighting for immigrants’ rights a signature issue, on Tuesday described the Trump administration’s border detention facilities as “concentration camps,” provoking backlash from Republicans who said she was minimizing the Holocaust.
— Sheryl Gay Stolberg, The New York Times, 18 Jun. 2019

What does concentration camp mean?
A short definition of concentration camp is “a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard —used especially in reference to camps created by the Nazis in World War II for the internment and persecution of Jews and other prisoners.”

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/news-trend-watch/lookups-spike-for-concentration-camp-20190618

Reading this description was so scary as this is what these migrants are being held in and SOC is 100% correct in calling these camps concentration camps. Fat Donnie and his thugs need to be arrested for international crimes against humanity.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:46 PM

2. I agree. The term is generic, but because of the horrendousness of the

Nazi concentration camps, it became almost exclusively connected to the Holocaust. But we could also call them "internment camps". The US's other dark episode in rounding up non-white people was the internment of Japanese Americans for 4 years during WWII. Internment camps, concentration camps, pig-stys; they are an abominable, wretched way to treat human beings.

Trump and anyone in his disgusting administration involved in this should be charged with child abuse, child endangerment and man (child) slaughter.

If any parents treated their children like this, they would be hauled off to jail and their children taken away from them.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:50 PM

3. hey media.............

i don't care if you call them concentration camps or summer camps or amusement parks.......... instead of debating the name.... GET REPORTERS ON THE GROUND and demand entry to these camps!

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Response to Takket (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:01 PM

5. Private "for profit" corporations will not allow reporters into these camps.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:09 PM

7. If they're private, they're certainly subject to state law

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:51 PM

4. "They're not concentration camps b/c they're not killing anyone!"

Neither did Hitler at first.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:04 PM

6. Is trump going to come up with a final solution for those kids?

Maybe Stephen Miller and John Bolton can advise.

The furnaces will be coal-fired. His base will say “promises made, promises kept.”

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:30 AM

8. Republicans fight about terminology b/c they know how important messaging and framing are

We'll stop calling them concentration camps when they stop saying "Democrat politician".

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