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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:48 PM

Adam Schiff Warns Trump If He Defies Court Order Impeachment Is Next

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/06/23/adam-schiff-trump-impeachment-3.html

Posted on Sun, Jun 23rd, 2019 by Jason Easley
Adam Schiff Warns Trump If He Defies Court Order Impeachment Is Next

Adam Schiff lays out what it would take for him to support Trump impeachment


Transcript:

TAPPER: Let’s turn to the growing calls for the impeachment of President Trump. At least 75 House Democrats now, nearly a third of your caucus, support launching an impeachment inquiry. Now, the third ranking House Democrat, Jim Clyburn, told me on the show earlier this month he believed President Trump will eventually face impeachment proceedings. Do you agree?


SCHIFF: I don’t know the answer, Jake. Certainly, the administration and the president seem to be doing everything they can, everything they can to push us into an impeachment. And we may get there. We may get there. At this point, as you say, a third of our caucus is there, and two-thirds is not there. What would get me to that point is, if we get to a final court decision compelling administration to provide testimony and documents, and they still refuse, then I think we’re in a full-blown constitutional crisis that would compel that kind of remedy. I may get there before that point, Jake. So I continue to listen to people that I respect greatly within our caucus, constitutional lawyers like Larry Tribe and others, and weigh this, I think, every day, and have continued discussions with the speaker about it. But, at this point, I’m not prepared to recommend it.


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Trump will have to comply with the court order or be impeached

Rep. Schiff is playing it smart. He knows that Trump doesn’t want to be impeached, so he is giving the administration a choice. After the court rules in favor of the House, which it will, Trump can either turn over witnesses and documents or face impeachment. Chairman Schiff is not alone. If Democrats go through the judicial process, and Trump defies a court order, look for a majority if not all Democrats to support opening an impeachment investigation.

The endgame is unfolding faster than Trump wanted. The president isn’t going to be able to run out the clock on the investigations, and impeachment could be here by the end of summer.

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Reply Adam Schiff Warns Trump If He Defies Court Order Impeachment Is Next (Original post)
babylonsister Jun 2019 OP
TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #1
George II Jun 2019 #16
Backseat Driver Jun 2019 #31
Beartracks Jun 2019 #33
Stuart G Jun 2019 #2
leftieNanner Jun 2019 #21
captain queeg Jun 2019 #3
Callmecrazy Jun 2019 #30
airplaneman Jun 2019 #36
VOX Jun 2019 #39
ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2019 #4
Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #6
ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2019 #8
Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #10
Laurian Jun 2019 #9
leftieNanner Jun 2019 #22
panfluteman Jun 2019 #25
not fooled Jun 2019 #17
triron Jun 2019 #5
kentuck Jun 2019 #7
4139 Jun 2019 #11
Chin music Jun 2019 #12
LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #27
Chin music Jun 2019 #34
triron Jun 2019 #37
Turbineguy Jun 2019 #13
Nasruddin Jun 2019 #15
leftieNanner Jun 2019 #23
malaise Jun 2019 #14
greblach Jun 2019 #18
triron Jun 2019 #19
Chin music Jun 2019 #35
warmfeet Jun 2019 #20
msongs Jun 2019 #28
DeeDeeNY Jun 2019 #24
Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2019 #29
sandensea Jun 2019 #26
AllyCat Jun 2019 #32
Chin music Jun 2019 #41
Hulk Jun 2019 #38
jberryhill Jun 2019 #40

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:54 PM

1. Works for me, except then we have to campaign against Pence, which may actually be tougher.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:33 PM

16. The effects of the impending impeachment but ultimate resignation of Nixon ruined any chance...

...that Gerald Ford had.

Of course that was a different day and age.

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Response to George II (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:35 PM

31. Well, I'm still carrying a grudge that Ford just sort of fell into the mud, receiving not one

single vote to be POTUS from any of We the People.

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Response to George II (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:55 PM

33. And there's no guarantee he'd resign. Anyhow, the spineless Republicans...

... won't convict him in the Senate.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:57 PM

2. So, it is really simple: If Trump defies a court order, that's all folks..

So Trump has a choice: turn over the info, all of it or get quickly to the first phase of impeachment. Perhaps we are already at that phase, setting the grounds ahead of time, for what will get the show on the road. If Trump follows all court orders, and does not do anything illegal, he can avoid that show. Which will it be: curtain number 1, curtain number 2, or curtain number 3.?..(resign from office now, not later)

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:07 PM

21. He will not resign

EVER! He can see those indictments piling up on several prosecutors' desks and that scares the hell out of him. This is why he won't concede when he loses in 2020. He knows he's a crook and Rikers is haunting his dreams.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:01 PM

3. How long did it take the repugs to commence impeachment of president Clinton?

I don’t remember it being a very drawn out affair.

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:34 PM

30. at least a year, if I recall nt

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:55 PM

36. And didn't McConnell and Republicans promise to impeach Clinton on day one if she won? n/t.

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:55 PM

39. R's started investigating Bill Clinton in January 1994...

Over Whitewater and various alleged sexual dalliances. FOUR YEARS LATER, Linda Tripp suddenly materializes on the scene with recordings, etc.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theweek.com/articles-amp/762398/what-starr-investigations-tells-about-muellers-probe
Why was Clinton investigated?
It began over the Whitewater scandal, a long-running controversy concerning a failed 1978 land deal in Arkansas. The Clintons' business partner in that project defrauded a small savings association and an investment firm, and some of the parties involved charged that the president and his wife had benefited from the fraud. In January 1994, Attorney General Janet Reno appointed Robert Fiske as a special prosecutor to investigate the Clintons' involvement. Seven months later, however, a Republican-leaning panel of judges dismissed Fiske — on the basis that his appointment by Clinton's attorney general represented a conflict of interest — and appointed Ken Starr as an independent counsel, reporting to Congress, not to the Justice Department. Starr, who had served as solicitor general under President George H.W. Bush, was a staunch Republican. Clinton loyalists immediately cried foul, denouncing the probe as "tainted" and a partisan "witch hunt." "This will last as long as [Clinton is] president and beyond," warned White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum. "They'll be investigating things years from now that we haven't even dreamed about today."

Were those fears realized?
Yes. While Starr ultimately found no criminal wrongdoing by the Clintons regarding Whitewater, he broadened his investigation to include many other controversies swirling around the White House. In January 1998, a civil servant named Linda Tripp told Starr's team she had recordings of Monica Lewinsky, a former White House intern, discussing an 18-month affair she'd had with the president. With Reno's approval, Starr expanded his investigation to include Lewinsky.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:02 PM

4. Pence can be beaten. He has a Congressional record....

and his dismal term as Governor of Indiana to dissect. His anti-Gay, Anti-woman, Anti-Abortion, Anti-Immigrant positions will not win him votes from these groups. Nor will he be able to expand the current base. Mike Pence is not that well-liked either.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:03 PM

6. Plus he has the charisma of a turnip.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:08 PM

8. Being lack luster does not draw crowds.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:09 PM

10. Exactly. It would be fairly easy to beat him, I think.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:09 PM

9. Or less.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:08 PM

22. Wrong

I like turnips!

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:17 PM

25. Funny that you should mention turnip...

A Japanese expression for an actor with absolutely no appeal or charisma or acting ability is "Daikon Yakusha", which means a Daikon Actor". Daikons are big, white, fat Japanese radishes - absolutely without any color or interesting features at all.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:39 PM

17. Yes

Even billions poured into his campaign by the 666kook brothers666 and their ilk wouldn't be enough to whitewash (pun intended) his lousy record and crackpot evilangelical beliefs.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:02 PM

5. But how long until the court order??

Then Trump will stall. No, Schiff needs to move to impeachment before then or it may be too late.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:03 PM

7. If he defied a court order, it would be hard to not vote to impeach....

That would be the final straw in this lawless crusade.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:12 PM

11. Court order, then appeal, then appeal slowly to Supreme Court ... maybe by 2021, but first there

Has to be a court order

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Response to Chin music (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:24 PM

27. There's the rub

"if we get to a final court decision compelling administration to provide testimony and documents"

And when is that going to happen?

I think we are long past the time to impeach based on the evidence already in plain sight. But we are living in a scary time, where almost half the country is under some crazy spell, with a third full blown cult members who are on a trigger finger.

The internal debate going on in the Democratic party is whether to start impeachment now, and thus expose enough other damaging information to get out the anti-Trump vote to win in 2020. And those that think we could have a better chance at winning in 2020 if they drag it out as long as possible, maybe never impeach. But only impeach if they can build momentum from whatever they can glean from inquiries despite no cooperation from Rs. And from whatever asinine things Trump does in the meantime. And if enough Democrats, and even Republicans are polling high enough for impeachment. And if that number is still too uncomfortably low for those in the leadership, or rather not high enough, they'd rather run against him based on his other scandals he has on his record since being in office.

I want impeachment now. But I can see the strategy of waiting until they can claim they really had no choice.

What I think Democrats lack though is the ability to use events that favor them, in an instant, as catalysts to make big leaps. This slow as you go plodding along waiting, one straw at a time, for the pile to build, is just not engaging to the public, or the network news. And example is that they had that perfect moment to act on impeachment when Mueller came out with that shocker that he gave Barr a letter a month before Barr said Trump was exonerated, where Mueller stated that he had not cleared him of obstruction. They could have gone on the air in a rage (even if they had to pretend to act passionate). Republicans know how to do that. BENGHAZI! EMAILS! TAN SUITS! SLEEVELESS ARMS!. And used that event as a catapult to impeachment. A way to deflect some of the decision onto Mueller and Barr. That Mueller, in effect, made the decision for them. But that moment passed. Like a lot of them. Any of which, if the tables were turned the GOP would have been bouncing off the walls barely able to contain themselves and already on the warpath.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:31 PM

37. Schiff is stalling, bottom line. Why?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:45 PM

13. Impeachment and removal from office

will get trump to the Land of Pence Pardons. It might be a safer place for him. Too bad about those who were "only following orders".

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:31 PM

15. Why would Pence pardon him?

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:11 PM

23. But not for New York state crimes!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:47 PM

14. Good

ITTMF!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:45 PM

18. Pelosi Comment

I am paraphrasing here, but I am starting to understand Pelosi's strategy...As she mentioned, if Impeached and not convicted in the Senate by the Repubs, then the chances of legal pursuit of wrongdoing by Trump when he is out of office is way less... I was in the Impeach yesterday caucus, but I can also understand this...I would be satisfied if Trump were brought to justice when he was out of office...assuming we can get to that end...hoping for the best...

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Response to greblach (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:00 PM

19. I would like to hear Laurence Tribe's expert opinion about that. Bet he would beg to differ.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:05 PM

20. Gee,

I was hoping for a strongly worded letter. I think I have the vapors now. Whatever shall I do?



Stand up to bullies. Fight them face to face. Call them out, LOUDLY, regarding their crimes. Fight them tooth and nail. That is how you win!

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Response to warmfeet (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:30 PM

28. will you settle for a "sternly" worded letter instead lol nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:12 PM

24. Exactly how long will a final court decision take??

Just wondering.

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Response to DeeDeeNY (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:34 PM

29. spring of 2024, unless appealed

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:19 PM

26. Then it's a foregone conclusion

Defying court orders, is Cheeto's middle name.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:50 PM

32. I'll believe it when I see it.

So many reasons to impeach and yet we “wait for the next election” and “we don’t have the Seeennnaaatttee!” Bull shit. Do your job Congress.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:36 PM

38. WooooHooooo....my thoughts exactly.

I want this fat, ugly stooge to be impeached as much as anybody; but I also understand that the Democrats are being clever in how they approach this. Go at it like you are out to hang the coward con artist, and you send support and sympathy to his cause. Run that lousy son of a bitch through all the checklists, and let him block and obstruct at every turn, then it becomes a case of him not complying and obstructing justice...which he is and has been doing since day one (when he withheld his tax returns, etc, etc.)

I can wait until the end of summer, but mark my word, this pudgy fat fook is going to be cooked in a shit soup before long, and he's NOT going to like it at all.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 05:22 AM

40. Lol, so... some time in 2022 or thereabouts

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