You know what, I've lost my patience.

[kacekwl]

This horror regarding the migrant children has pulled my last nerve. There must be at this time be a mountain of evidence of high crimes, lies, scams, collusion, obstruction and any number of deviant acts on trump his family the Republican party his business dealings to at the very least start impeachment investigations. How long are we going to allow this creaton to continue ?

[watoos]

1. I am 100% in agreement with you

The narrative has swung to Steve Kornacki, and the criminal president goes on destroying our democracy and our environment.

Adam Schiff stated that we should wait to impeach until Trump disobeys a Supreme Court order and that will be after the election.

Speaker Pelosi can bring all Democrats together by calling for impeachment hearings.

[sacto95834]

33. What galls me...

is we the American people will have to suffer and be tainted by it's actions when history is written. All they will remember is that the USA did this to migrants - an atrocity on humanity.

[Evolve Dammit]

34. Schiff actually said that? Please provide link/ source. Thanks

[Maru Kitteh]

39. I heard him too. I was red-in-the-face furious. Wanted to throw things at him

through my TV.

[spanone]

2. K&R...

[2naSalit]

3. We should be doing this by now...

RELENTLESSLY!!!



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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/23/world/europe/czech-republic-protests-andrej-babis.html

[KPN]

15. Right?!

Ah, the irony of a world class grifter promising to fight graft. We know it all too well .

[Evolve Dammit]

35. We did that during the Iraq invasion. MSM barely covered it. 400,000 in D.C.

[2naSalit]

41. Apparently, once is not enough...nt

[Alwaysna]

49. This would happen here if football season were cancelled.

[2naSalit]

53. +1

[dreamland]

5. You've lost you patience just now?!

You're a saint to be able to put up with this much bull crap until now. I lost it the day he took his oath and getting more depressed and angrier by the day. What's your secret?

[DENVERPOPS]

17. I have been screaming

I have been screaming from the rooftops ever since the day Reagan (Actually H.W Bush and Cheney et al) took office and I saw all the things they were doing. Many thought I was just climbing on a soap box........
I really started screaming louder when H.W Bush (and the same Cheney et al) took office. And was going hoarse by the time W Bush was "Appointed" president (with Cheney, et al). I mustered some screaming when the Republicans, by hook or crook, stuffed Trump in the office with the thanks of Putin and several other foreign governments.

I have to believe at this point, impeachment or any other shoot from the hip reaction, is going to be way too little, way too late.
This is the epitome of a true CHARLIE FOXTROT..........................WASF

[kacekwl]

18. I lied. I still can't believe

how we ended up with this asshole. I put my hope in 2018 elections I put my hope in Mueller I put my hope in Pelosi and Schiff and here we are. There is absolutely no excuse for any Republican or Democratic not to demand trump and his administration be held responsible for putting children in these conditions.

[FiveGoodMen]

32. We ended up with this asshole because we have 100,000,000 Nazis among us.

And their leaders hold rallies all across the country every Sunday.

[Evolve Dammit]

36. and saturate the airwaves (including Armed Services Radio) with it

How many channels does Sinclair and Clear Channel control? A LOT

[orangecrush]

6. We are playing Chamberlain

to a monster.

[Duppers]

10. Truth! ☝

And he is a monster.

[Enoki33]

7. In addition to the monstrous crimes, somewhere somehow it is a safe

bet that tRump and his crime syndicate are making money from it.

[Scarsdale]

8. I just read that he will make millions this 4th.

The tRump hotel in D.C. is fully booked, at outrageous prices. We will be paying for a flyover, plus more security than usual. It will be like a campaign stop on steroids. How is this legal? Then Maleria Ho is bragging about helping children. Does she even KNOW about the camps on the border? Oh, right, "I really don't care. Do U?"

[Grasswire2]

44. If he uses words that are campaigning, Hatch act will be invoked and he will be billed for the event

........but he likely will stiff the Park Service and other agencies for it anyway.

[cwydro]

9. Ask Pelosi.

Amazing, ain’t it?

[RiverStone]

11. 76 Dems in Congress (so far) have the right stuff!

To begin an impeachment inquire ASAP. The numbers are growing daily.

Nancy stalling this until the conditions are perfect is a terrible choice. When a criminal is destroying your house, you take action.

[world wide wally]

19. I'm beginning to think she is his #1 enabler

[cwydro]

20. I used to be a huge Pelosi fan.

I’m beyond disappointed.

Sickened.

[Turin_C3PO]

27. I'm more angry at the 150+ House Dems

who aren’t supporting impeachment. I think Pelosi could whip a few of them over to the pro-impeachment side but not all of them.

In any case, he needs to be held accountable for his crimes!

[cwydro]

29. I completely agree.

We’ve seem to have some spineless fucks serving in Congress.

We know the Repubs are, but what is wrong with our side? Are they not as upset about children living in utter squalor?

[Grasswire2]

45. I thought that tonight, but was afraid to type it here. nt

[yaesu]

12. Dems could shut everything down, the only biz in the House they should be doing is defunding

all of tRumps hopes and dreams, they hold the purse strings.

[Perseus]

13. I am also 100% with you

If Democrats do not do what is right, then by default they become accomplices of these atrocities.

The creature, and Barr, must be impeached.

[treestar]

21. She knows there are only 76 votes

To have a vote fail in the House would have you screaming louder.

[Turin_C3PO]

28. Yes.

I posted in another thread that worst case scenario would be an impeachment vote fail in the House.

[Celerity]

51. this is very true

I am not shocked that Pelosi is nowhere near getting the votes.

The US political system has been slammed to the right over the past several decades at multiple levels. Systemic voter suppression and gerrymandering by the Rethugs have made so many red and purple seats. To win those districts (like we did in 2018) we have to run moderates. The size of the New Democrat Coalition (centrist and blue dog types) has exploded.

Many of those moderates will never support even an impeachment enquiry unless the US population tilts massively more in favour of impeachment (or starting an enquiry). They think they would be committing electoral suicide.

Also, even if we take back the Senate and keep around 230 to 240 in the House, I see almost zero chance of even the public option getting passed. Same for even free community college nationally. Same for student loan debt forgiveness. Hell, good luck on even capping student loan interest at a very low number. Many of the moderates will never vote for those things, partly in fear of losing their districts. Failure to do those and other things may further induce voter apathy as well. It can become a viscous circle, and the Rethugs will NEVER give in, ever.

That all is the price we pay for playing within a vastly (and artificially) tilted-to-the-right federal electoral framework. State assemblies too (who then gerrymander and suppress voting further to create a self re-enforcing RW feedback loop).

I am already really cynical at 23 years of age.

[bdamomma]

16. I think this is it.

lets start calling and badgering our Senators and Reps.

THIS IS NOT NORMAL. I'm getting tired of sick twisted liar. He has done much damage to us and the world.

Get him out now.

[DENVERPOPS]

24. The Repubs

Are you kidding? All the Repubs in the House and Senate have all asked Melanoma where she got her cool jacket "I don't care".

The Repubs have turned this into a Third World, Banana Republic Dictatorship with the Repubs and Corporations in complete and utter control.............The Repubs are euphoric, and fulfilling all their wet dreams they have had for decades.

I have to be honest, I 100% believe that if somehow the Dems won the 2020 Presidential Election, Trump and his Entire Administration, the DOJ, Supreme Court, Republican Senate, etc etc etc would dig up some BS that they have proof of fraud and Freeze the election and allow Trump to stay in "until the Republican Administration, Republican Senate, Republican DOJ, etc can get to the bottom of this" which could take them years or even decades for that matter.

Even if, in our wildest dreams, we took the Senate and the Presidency, as well as every State Governor in the U.S. can you fathom how long it would take to reverse all this Ton of crap that has already been done? Think about it. And that is just the stuff we know about, also think about all that they have done in the shadows and behind everyone's backs for years..........

WASF

[Ferrets are Cool]

22. As long as the possibility of it hurting "someone's" chances of

being re-elected. That is how long this stain on our country will be allowed to exist.

[wryter2000]

23. Impeachment won't stop it

There may still be good reasons to impeach him, but it's not going to change his behavior.

[kacekwl]

25. It might just

keep him out in 2020.

[ehrnst]

31. Or get his base to rally - especially in swing states. (tn)

[GulfCoast66]

26. Another 'it's all the democrats fault' OP.

Impeachment will not change one fucking thing. Not one.

Except give Trump a victory to crow about.

Face it, the House does not have any power to stop or mitigate his behavior. No power whatsoever.

Doing something out of frustration most often does not produce good results.

[Laelth]

38. Impeachment will put our party on the right side of history.

I see it as a moral imperative. I know that the Senate will never convict Trump. So what? I want to be able to say that we did what we could, and did the right thing, in the face of a direct challenge to the Constitution and a direct threat to the rule of law in our republic.

-Laelth

[GulfCoast66]

42. I respect your opinion.

Suffice to say I disagree.

The higher the emotions, the more important it is to think calmly and strategically.

The Democratic Party is already on the right side of history. All that matters now is 2020.

Nothing else matters.

I agree the son of a bitch deserves it, but I don’t think impeachment helps our cause. Because I don’t think impeachment changes a single vote. And if you think the Mueller report produced depression among Democratic voters, imagine what a failed impeachment would do.

But honorable people can disagree on issues like this.

[Laelth]

43. Fair enough. I respect your opinion as well.

If it matters to you, it appears that Speaker Pelosi agrees with you. It certainly matters to me that she agrees with you, and I say that with complete respect for her and her office.

-Laelth

[ehrnst]

30. Speak for yourself. I'm doing everything I can to fight it.

What do you think isn't being done that could be?

Impeachment won't shorten his time in office, as we know.

[Maru Kitteh]

40. What cowards we are, if we fail to stand up and mark him with that stain

for all of history. He must be IMPEACHED.

[ehrnst]

47. When the time is right, but not before. (nt)

[Laelth]

37. Hear! Hear! Impeach NOW! n/t

-Laelth

[Grasswire2]

46. If 67 percent of Democratic voters now favor opening an impeachment inquiry.....

.........then they are represented by 67 percent of the Democrats in the House, and loyalty to Pelosi is keeping significant number of Representatives tamped down out of loyalty to her.

She wanted a groundswell of Democratic support for the opening of an inquiry.

Sixty seven percent is a groundswell, and growing daily.

She's running out the clock, deliberately, according to many observers.

[ehrnst]

48. "Running out the clock, deliberately"

That implies that she is simply delaying for no real reason.

Why do you think that?

[Nitram]

50. It's time to march en masse on the White House.

[stillcool]

52. Who created the creation?

Removing Trump...if you could....does nothing. Republicans have the majority in the Senate, the Presidency, the control of many State Governments, and the Court System. I think when Mueller testifies and people get a glimpse of how the GOP handles hearings, they may think again about the strategy of having the 5 Committee's doing their investigative work with little fan-fare. Preparing a fail-safe case of prosecutable crimes, and un-covering more than they would be able to in any impeachment hearing. But no one really cares about any of that, do they? Blame anyone, but don't blame the GOP, and don't blame the citizens of this country...unless they are non-white.