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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOregon GOP hide to ignore climate change bill: IMHO: Fire them if they're hiding.
Who says you can run for office, win a seat, and then hide when you don't like the job???
IMHO: If they're missing, replace them. Period!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/oregon-republicans-remain-in-undisclosed-locations-as-senate-leader-suggests-climate-bill-wont-pass/2019/06/25/f26bcd82-96f2-11e9-916d-9c61607d8190_story.html?utm_term=.1467d780a2c1
By Joel Achenbach and
Maureen O'Hagan June 25 at 8:49 PM
SALEM, Ore. His weary voice emerging from a speakerphone as he spoke from an undisclosed location, state Sen. Herman Baertschiger told reporters gathered in his office Tuesday afternoon that he and his fellow Republicans werent ready to return to Oregon.
The hastily organized news conference followed an announcement from Senate President Peter Courtney, the Democratic leader, that he didnt have enough votes to pass the controversial climate bill that had prompted the Republican senators to flee the state to deny Democrats a quorum.
But Baertschiger said some lawmakers still didnt want to come back to the state before the session ends Sunday. They fear a trick. They worry that the Democrats may pivot again and scrounge together enough votes to pass the bill.
It saddens me that we have to do this. This is not easy; it is not comfortable; it is not a good feeling, Baertschiger said. This session has been horrible. It has been anything but bipartisan.
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Oregon GOP hide to ignore climate change bill: IMHO: Fire them if they're hiding. (Original Post)
lindysalsagal
Jun 2019
OP
Forget pivoting to pass the climate bill... pivot to pass a bill which removes legislators who
RockRaven
Jun 2019
#2
It's not any MORE an illegitimate tactic ... it's just that they're fucked up and wrong ...
mr_lebowski
Jun 2019
#4
defacto7
(13,485 posts)1. Oh.. poor thing. Can't take the heat?
Get out of the damn kitchen.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)2. Forget pivoting to pass the climate bill... pivot to pass a bill which removes legislators who
miss a certain proportion/days/time of legislative sessions. Nip this thing in the bud once and for all.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)3. And what did you say when Democrats did it in Indiana, Wisconsin and Texas?
https://www.npr.org/2011/02/17/133847336/wis-democratic-lawmakers-flee-to-prevent-vote
Wis. Democrats Flee To Prevent Vote On Union Bill
A group of Democratic lawmakers in Wisconsin blocked passage of a sweeping anti-union bill Thursday by ignoring orders to attend a vote. Instead, they left the state to force Republicans to negotiate over the proposal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Eleven
The Texas Eleven were a group of Texas Senate Democrats who fled Texas for Albuquerque, New Mexico for 46 days in 2003 aimed at preventing the passage of controversial redistricting legislation that was intended to benefit Texas Republicans. A group of Texas House representatives, dubbed the Killer Ds, had fled the state for neighboring Oklahoma earlier that same summer for the same reason. However, the quorum-busting tactic was ineffective as the redistricting plan was later passed.
U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, then a powerful figure in Texas politics, advocated arresting the Texas Eleven, telling reporters that he supported using FBI agents or U.S. Marshals to arrest the runaway Democrats and bring them back to Austin, asserting that redistricting is a matter of federal concern.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/report-indiana-democrats-flee-state-to-shut-down-union-busting-proposal
Report: Indiana Democrats Flee State To Shut Down Union-Busting Proposal
Illinois is about to become the state of refuge for another band of legislative Democrats fleeing their home state to shut down a union-busting proposal.
The Indianapolis Star reports that Democratic members of the state House are heading out of state to prevent the Republican majority from moving forward on a bill that would bar unions and companies from negotiating a contract that requires non-union members to kick-in fees for representation.
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I gather you did not support the majority opinion here at DU when those events happened.
Here's one of the DU threads, to refresh your memory:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4743192
Or do you believe this is an illegitimate tactic only when Republicans do it?
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)4. It's not any MORE an illegitimate tactic ... it's just that they're fucked up and wrong ...
Whereas WE ... are on the side of rightness and good.
It's not that complicated.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)5. Well...
Given a choice between ignorance and hypocrisy, I'll go with hypocrisy every time.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)6. Sage choice ;) (nt)