Thu Jul 11, 2019, 09:36 PM
Amaryllis (9,463 posts)
"...he was protected by a vision of the good life in which girls and women are objects of pleasure."
Insightful opinion piece on the broader culture that supports "how heterosexual pedophilia is both normalized and often cast as aspirational: the reward for male success."
Opinion US news The Guardian Too many men think teenage girls are fair game. That gave Jeffrey Epstein cover Moira Donegan Epstein is an extreme example of how heterosexual pedophilia is both normalized and often cast as aspirational: the reward for male success Wed 10 Jul 2019 17.02 BST Snip It seems clear that Epstein was protected by his many powerful connections, as many abusers are, and because they were wealthy, powerful and famous, their protection was extremely effective at shielding him from consequence. And like other rich people, Epstein used his wealth to evade the criminal justice system, purchasing the services of skilled defense attorneys and leveraging his status in order to procure the favor of prosecutors. But Epstein, with his opulent life of multiple homes, private jets and lavish parties for the elite that were populated heavily by girls and very young women, also benefited from a culture that interprets male heterosexual pedophilia of his type as benign or even aspirational, a facet of the good life and a privilege of the ruling class. There is a vision of the life of a very rich man that Epstein pursued for himself and that those around him approved of him having, and this vision is grounded heavily in a kind of indulgent sensualism, one in which the very rich man is privileged to enjoy lavish trips, rich wine, fine food and beautiful views. The sexual abuse of teenage girls and young women is part of this vision; the pleasure that they afford the rich man is considered largely interchangeable with that that he gets from a rare steak or a nice cigar. But Epstein’s victims were not mere party props; they were not cocktails or expensive clothes. They were little girls. “I had braces on,” Epstein victim Courtney Wild told ABC news after his arrest. When she says that he abused her, she was 14. Epstein was protected by his money, and by his well-positioned friends, and by the corruption of those tasked with stopping him. He was protected by the broad cultural antipathy toward treating sexual abuse as real harm, the often hostile reaction to the premise that teenage girls should matter as much as adult men. But he was also protected by an idea of teenage girls as fair game for adult men to pursue and abuse, by a chuckling acceptance of May-December “romances” that begin mid-March. But he was also protected by a vision of the good life in which girls and women are objects of pleasure more than they are subjects with their own free will and their own demands on justice, dignity and freedom. It is a life that many men still covet for themselves. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/10/teenage-girls-jeffrey-epstein-fair-game?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVUy0xOTA3MTE%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUS&CMP=GTUS_email
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Amaryllis | Jul 2019 | OP |
liberalmuse | Jul 2019 | #1 | |
mr_lebowski | Jul 2019 | #2 | |
MarcA | Jul 2019 | #3 | |
liberalmuse | Jul 2019 | #4 | |
MarcA | Jul 2019 | #5 |
Response to Amaryllis (Original post)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:03 PM
liberalmuse (18,616 posts)
1. Fuck all these men.
They should all be slowly lowered in a live volcano. "Aspirational" to rape and seriously harm children who will suffer for the rest of their lives about what was done to them? We live in such a sick society.
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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #1)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:21 PM
mr_lebowski (32,071 posts)
2. It's not 'this' society ... all this has been true throughout history
and is still socially accepted in many countries (not literal rape, but of the general idea of older men and quite young women ... umm ... having 'consensual' relations) much more so than in the US. In fact, I'd venture to say that us US liberals are probably THE most rejecting group wrt this being 'okay' in the world even now.
Probably fairer to say we're a sick SPECIES ... well, the male in particular. Actually hell, chimps and apes do this kind of thing too. |
Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #2)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:45 PM
MarcA (2,195 posts)
3. Humans and our societies will either evolve to something better
or eventually destroy ourselves. Other lifeforms, well, maybe we can
evolve some more and help them. |
Response to MarcA (Reply #3)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:02 PM
liberalmuse (18,616 posts)
4. I hope so.
And it's nice you ended with a positive thought. I sound so dour. I guess all this garbage is really getting to me and it's time to force myself to be a bit more positive. Cutting out the 24x7 craziness of the news might help some.
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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #4)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:11 PM
MarcA (2,195 posts)
5. Thanks and here you go
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