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Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:23 PM

How much faith do you still have in the American people?

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Reply How much faith do you still have in the American people? (Original post)
EveHammond13 Jul 20 OP
democratisphere Jul 20 #1
RKP5637 Jul 20 #5
EveHammond13 Jul 20 #40
WhiskeyGrinder Jul 20 #2
Martin Eden Jul 20 #22
skylucy Jul 20 #3
MyOwnPeace Jul 20 #59
RKP5637 Jul 20 #4
genxlib Jul 20 #9
RKP5637 Jul 20 #10
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 20 #6
ooky Jul 20 #7
EveHammond13 Jul 20 #41
FM123 Jul 20 #8
MyOwnPeace Jul 20 #60
nycbos Jul 20 #11
RKP5637 Jul 20 #48
Coventina Jul 20 #12
Tumbulu Jul 20 #13
dwayneb Jul 20 #14
EveHammond13 Jul 20 #42
Boomerproud Jul 20 #50
napi21 Jul 20 #15
RKP5637 Jul 20 #49
MyOwnPeace Jul 20 #61
RKP5637 Jul 21 #65
spanone Jul 20 #16
customerserviceguy Jul 20 #17
RKP5637 Jul 20 #51
MaryMagdaline Jul 20 #18
sinkingfeeling Jul 20 #19
virgogal Jul 20 #20
lunatica Jul 20 #21
handmade34 Jul 20 #23
lunatica Jul 20 #24
Everyman Jackal Jul 20 #25
RKP5637 Jul 20 #52
Kurt V. Jul 20 #26
Paladin Jul 20 #27
Polly Hennessey Jul 20 #28
Karadeniz Jul 20 #29
aeromanKC Jul 20 #30
Initech Jul 20 #31
uponit7771 Jul 20 #32
trof Jul 20 #33
doc03 Jul 20 #34
CousinIT Jul 20 #35
Kurt V. Jul 20 #39
CousinIT Jul 20 #44
RKP5637 Jul 20 #54
CousinIT Jul 21 #68
RKP5637 Jul 21 #69
stillcool Jul 20 #36
Skittles Jul 20 #37
VarryOn Jul 20 #38
mike_c Jul 20 #43
Hotler Jul 20 #45
elocs Jul 20 #46
hunter Jul 20 #47
elleng Jul 20 #53
RKP5637 Jul 20 #56
elleng Jul 20 #58
RKP5637 Jul 21 #64
redstatebluegirl Jul 20 #55
LuvLoogie Jul 20 #57
larwdem Jul 20 #62
Peace06 Jul 21 #63
NickB79 Jul 21 #66
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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:28 PM

1. 60%.

40% belong in a looney bin.

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:31 PM

5. ... maybe even 45% loony! ... lots of crackpots and assholes in America. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:39 PM

40. yeah

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:29 PM

2. To act in what they see as their own interests? 100%.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:18 PM

22. Too bad so many are blind

Voting for Trump is not in the best interests of the MAGA morons. Even rich assholes who experience short term profits are likely cutting their long term throats.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:29 PM

3. I'm not sure right now but I will have an answer after November 3, 2020.

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Response to skylucy (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:39 PM

59. Well, DAMN!

Ain't THAT the scary truth!

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:30 PM

4. As I think it was Winston Churchill once said ... something like ... Americans are known for doing

everything the wrong way until they finally get it right.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:49 PM

9. The real quote is slightly less complimentary

Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities.

Although there is little evidence that he actually said it.

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Response to genxlib (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:50 PM

10. Yes, thanks, that is the one I heard that was supposedly from him. n/t

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:33 PM

6. Which ones?

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:37 PM

7. Not much. Much less than before Trump was elected.

It has been a real eye opener.

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Response to ooky (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:40 PM

41. yes. an education.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:43 PM

8. It depends on the day.

That being said, I was moved so deeply and my faith restored by the folks in MN when they welcomed home their Congresswoman Ilhan Omar....

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Response to FM123 (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:41 PM

60. VERY good point, indeed!

Way to go, Minnesota!

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:01 PM

11. Forget America for a moment.

Given what's going on in the world I have little faith in humanity as a whole.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:31 PM

48. Amazing isn't it. One little ball of spinning dirt and people trying to kill each other off or

at minimal making other peoples lives miserable. It's always been a total WTF to me ever since a little kid

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:09 PM

12. collectively? zero. I have faith in some individuals, but the mass

stupidity, even of well-meaning people, will doom us.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:28 PM

13. very very little, sorry to say.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:00 PM

14. It's not just Americans

Just look at what the world did to itself in the 20th Century. Nearly, 100,000,000 people died in the world wars; in fact nearly 3% of the world population died in WWII. A mere 75 years ago.

Remember that Lou Reed song?

"You can depend on the worst always happening
you need a busload of faith to get by..."



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Response to dwayneb (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:40 PM

42. words of wisdom

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Response to dwayneb (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:34 PM

50. Amen.

Nationalism is rearing its ugly and destructive head all over but especially in the western world .
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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:04 PM

15. The majority of Americans are sane people, but gullible.

DT hit on a lot of sore spots during his campaign like bringing jobs back , new health care that will be better & cheaper, sealing the boarders, etc. They decided to give him a try.

After the election, lots of 'em realized those were all LIES!

There are still some supporters, (his base), but he's lost a lot of voters who now realize now it was BS.

I believe he's got about 35% who won't leave him for any reason, but there was enough losses that he won't get reelected. It's hard to believe that, but his 35% are VERY LOUD and make us feel there's more of them.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:34 PM

49. Yep, exceptionally naive and gullible ... falling for all of the hucksters lies. tRump is bad

enough, but what is really disturbing is how so many can be persuaded to vote and taken in by such a cheap con artist.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #49)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:46 PM

61. And to really bring you down..........

read some of the responses to the Repug congressmen who have not shown any negative response to IQ45's latest rants about 4 Americans:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=235996

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #61)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:25 AM

65. Absolutely incredible. Next, they will topple the Statue of Liberty. So many flaming assholes! n/t

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:09 PM

16. I'll let you know after this coming election.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:25 PM

17. 50%

Which is why I believe that we have a severe chance of splitting in two once Trump leaves office by any means other than natural death.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:35 PM

51. Yeah, the future is becoming a 50/50 game of chance. n/t

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:57 PM

18. Zero

Whatever power we have is diluted by EC, gerrymandering, lobbying, dark money and filibuster

1/3 power means nothing

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:58 PM

19. 10% to none.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:00 PM

20. A lot.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:06 PM

21. You know that IQ graphic?

Trump’s base makes up most of the left side.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:25 PM

23. IQ

is not indicative of a good heart and moral compass... intelligent people can be conniving and manipulative

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:29 PM

24. I was joking.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:45 PM

25. I have very little faith in Americans about 10%

 

It really doesn't matter because I believe humans will almost reach extinction in less than 100 years. There will be some humans left since I believe humans have a will to survive and the brains to do it in small numbers.

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Response to Everyman Jackal (Reply #25)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:38 PM

52. Sadly, this is quite true. I seriously don't believe humanity will have a long track record

for existence unless a lot of people wake the F up and get their act together for survival of the species and the planet.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:52 PM

26. i don't believe in sin , i don't believe in virtue but only what people do.

this line from the grapes of wrath has shaped my world view.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:57 PM

27. Very damn little. Hope events prove me wrong. (nt)

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:58 PM

28. 40 percent are idiots.

20 percent verge on idiocy. Good grief, it sounds hopeless. Still I remain optimistic. We did have Obama. That gives me some hope.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:59 PM

29. Look, everyone's...everyone's...Mind is comprised of brain energy and soul energy. That's why

Psychics can deliver precise, arcane information by speaking to a deceased's, still-alive-after-death Mind. Anyway, while the brain will do whatever it takes to survive and satisfy bodily cravings, the soul will direct the Mind towards spiritual values like generosity, compassion, kindness, brotherhood.

For reasons I won't go into here, on any day our earth population will be composed of people whose souls vary in spirit value from the size of a mustard seed to huge. The mustard seeds don't have enough soul energy to overcome brain desires. They live for money, sex, power, food, status.The only things that exist to them are physical. The great souls are naturally considerate of others...the boy who poses with shelter animals to help them be adopted, the white girl or boy who says their best friend of another race is their twin, the kid who collects coats or backpacks for poor children.

As long as there is soul, there is hope for us. All but the mustard seeds will respond to examples or leadership by great soul. By the way, the utmost heroism...sacrificing oneself for others...is all-soul behavior. One cannot think oneself into that level of action. And, that is beyond religion.

Right now, there are more soul-conscious people than not, according to polls. The GOP has disintegrated to the anti-soul level. Segregationist, racist, homophobic, money loving, intolerant, exclusive, xenophobic. If you look at a poll, see the percentage for democrats. They're the ones nowadays displaying soul values.

NOT proselytizing!!!! Everyone entitled to his own thloughts!

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:05 PM

30. I'll get back at you after November 3rd 2020

Hopefully my answer is 100%

Edit to answer question: Right now its at 60% (based on 2018 election and the send her back backlash)

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:10 PM

31. After the shit we've been through with this administration...

And the fucking assholes who still support this monster and everything he's doing, slim to nil.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:17 PM

32. A lot, our pols?!? ... It's fainting

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:21 PM

33. About this much:

|..|

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:23 PM

34. after 2016 none nt

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:24 PM

35. I don't have any faith in any people.

Humans are idiots.

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #35)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:38 PM

39. the ascent of mankind is nothing less than remarkable. a handful have fucked it up

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #39)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:33 PM

44. The human race is destroying itself. It's destroying the only planet it depends on for life.

And with that, itself.

Pretty stupid.

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #44)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:40 PM

54. And so damn many still can't comprehend WTF is going on. It's both frightening and amazing.

A perpetual WTF.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #54)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 06:11 PM

68. Imagine being a climate scientist right now. They're suffering bereavement and depression. . .

https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2019/07/weight-of-the-world-climate-change-scientist-grief/

It’s the End of the World as They Know It
The distinct burden of being a climate scientis
t

On election night 2016, Kim Cobb, a professor at the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Tech, was on Christmas Island, the world’s largest ring-shaped coral reef atoll, about 1,300 miles south of Hawaii. A climate scientist, she was collecting coral skeletons to produce estimates of past ocean temperatures. She had been taking these sorts of research trips for two decades, and over recent years she had witnessed about 85 percent of the island’s reef system perish due to rising ocean temperatures. “I was diving with tears in my eyes,” she recalls.

In a row house made of cinder blocks on the tiny island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, she monitored the American election results, using a satellite uplink that took several minutes to load a page. When she saw Donald Trump’s victory, she felt shock and soon descended into severe depression. “I had the firm belief that Washington would act on climate change and would be acting soon,” the 44-year-old Cobb says. “When Trump was elected, it came crashing down.” . . .


And the Trump Cult and even most Democrats (politicians and voters) just deny it's happening. ALL of them. Even Tom Perez - head of the DNC refuses to allow a debate dedicated to climate change. AS IF IT'S NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH.

Duh.

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #68)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 06:17 PM

69. I'm stunned at the ignorance!!! n/t

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:24 PM

36. as much as I ever did...

people are people. Since reading the Mueller Report, I question everything I read. It keeps me sane, and allows me to live life.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:26 PM

37. America is stronger than Donald Fucking Trump

this I know

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:34 PM

38. I think most Americans are decent, kind, and want to help their fellow man...

when politics arent involved. I saw a couple examples on a flight this week. An elderly Hispanic lady couldnt get her carry-on lifted high enough to get it in the overhead. Four different men of varying ages and ethnic groups worked to help her. And one man made a point to get it out at the end of the flight.

Then, our fight was about 45 minutes landing in Chicago. The flight attendent asked those who had time to remain seated so those with tight connections could more quickly deboard. I thought to myself, "Yeah, right. That'll happen!" You know what? It did!

To be sure, these were small examples, but still indicative of good people.

I dont think it would have been the case if everyone had bottoms on their shirts labeling their political preferences.

I catch myself intensely observing one-on-one interactions when I know the participants are strangers to one another. The vast majority are cordial and positive. I dont think that would be the case if political affiliations were conspicuous. For example, MAGA hats would be detrimental to interactions.

All that said, I believe I van put my faith in most Americans. I'll say 75%.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:14 PM

43. not much....

Unfortunately, I tend to read the comments addressing online news stories. Nothing will erode confidence in humanity faster.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:36 PM

45. To do what? nt

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:44 PM

46. Life is good, people not so much, and that goes for the American people as well.

But then I'm a schizoid and not a people person which is why I like online forums where I only need to deal with words on the screen rather than up close and personal with people.
I have faith in the American people to support their tribe and hate the opposite one. We do it here but then we're right, or is that left?

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:01 PM

47. A little over a third are deplorable.

We should finish the Civil War and crush them.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:39 PM

53. Not much BECAUSE of prevalent propaganda methods; it's shocking what repugs have done;

wrecked public education, #1.

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Response to elleng (Reply #53)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:44 PM

56. The GOP should be an experiment contained in a cage. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #56)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:00 PM

58. Too damn late.

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Response to elleng (Reply #58)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:21 AM

64. Someone forgot the damn cage lock! n/t

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:43 PM

55. Not as much as I used to. I think a great many of them are nuts.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:50 PM

57. A lot of people call themselves Christians. It seems few actually are.

I think a similar thing can be said of Americans. Too many of us are too passive, or really do not care enough about the plight of the powerless, or care enough to help ourselves.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:56 PM

62. this much

not 2 shits

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:52 AM

63. trumps base



I am no therapist, but I believe this group of people have never been interested in politics until trump. I believe they felt left out of the mainstream until they heard trump. They finally feel that they are a part of something important and that they make a difference. This is like a drug to them. Somebody is finally on their side. They will not willingly give up something that makes them feel so important. However misguided they are, if someone could make them feel as included and important as trump does, it could possibly break through. This is why they dont care what he does as long as he makes them feel included. We must find a way to convince them. I dont know what that would be, but surely some expert knows.






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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:37 AM

66. Anyone remember the movie "The Mist"?

They nailed it, IMO.



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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:43 AM

67. Not much.

It seems 2 out of 5 people support the traitorous lying racist misogynist sack of $hit occupying the Oval Office. I think about that whenever I'm out walking and passing people on the street. 40% support that narcissistic a$$hole who is dismantling our government. Separating families at the border. Locking children in cages. Denying pediatricians access to treat those kids. Encouraging his supporters to demand duly elected Congressional Representatives be deported because they oppose him and his policies. It's mind blowing. Every 2 out of 5 people support this $hit!

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