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How much faith do you still have in the American people? (Original Post) EveHammond13 Jul 2019 OP
60%. democratisphere Jul 2019 #1
... maybe even 45% loony! ... lots of crackpots and assholes in America. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #5
yeah EveHammond13 Jul 2019 #40
To act in what they see as their own interests? 100%. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #2
Too bad so many are blind Martin Eden Jul 2019 #22
I'm not sure right now but I will have an answer after November 3, 2020. skylucy Jul 2019 #3
Well, DAMN! MyOwnPeace Jul 2019 #59
As I think it was Winston Churchill once said ... something like ... Americans are known for doing RKP5637 Jul 2019 #4
The real quote is slightly less complimentary genxlib Jul 2019 #9
Yes, thanks, that is the one I heard that was supposedly from him. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #10
Which ones? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #6
Not much. Much less than before Trump was elected. ooky Jul 2019 #7
yes. an education. EveHammond13 Jul 2019 #41
It depends on the day. FM123 Jul 2019 #8
VERY good point, indeed! MyOwnPeace Jul 2019 #60
Forget America for a moment. nycbos Jul 2019 #11
Amazing isn't it. One little ball of spinning dirt and people trying to kill each other off or RKP5637 Jul 2019 #48
collectively? zero. I have faith in some individuals, but the mass Coventina Jul 2019 #12
very very little, sorry to say. Tumbulu Jul 2019 #13
It's not just Americans dwayneb Jul 2019 #14
words of wisdom EveHammond13 Jul 2019 #42
Amen. Boomerproud Jul 2019 #50
The majority of Americans are sane people, but gullible. napi21 Jul 2019 #15
Yep, exceptionally naive and gullible ... falling for all of the hucksters lies. tRump is bad RKP5637 Jul 2019 #49
And to really bring you down.......... MyOwnPeace Jul 2019 #61
Absolutely incredible. Next, they will topple the Statue of Liberty. So many flaming assholes! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #65
I'll let you know after this coming election. spanone Jul 2019 #16
50% customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #17
Yeah, the future is becoming a 50/50 game of chance. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #51
Zero MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #18
10% to none. sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #19
A lot. virgogal Jul 2019 #20
You know that IQ graphic? lunatica Jul 2019 #21
IQ handmade34 Jul 2019 #23
I was joking. lunatica Jul 2019 #24
I have very little faith in Americans about 10% Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #25
Sadly, this is quite true. I seriously don't believe humanity will have a long track record RKP5637 Jul 2019 #52
i don't believe in sin , i don't believe in virtue but only what people do. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #26
Very damn little. Hope events prove me wrong. (nt) Paladin Jul 2019 #27
40 percent are idiots. Polly Hennessey Jul 2019 #28
Look, everyone's...everyone's...Mind is comprised of brain energy and soul energy. That's why Karadeniz Jul 2019 #29
I'll get back at you after November 3rd 2020 aeromanKC Jul 2019 #30
After the shit we've been through with this administration... Initech Jul 2019 #31
A lot, our pols?!? ... It's fainting uponit7771 Jul 2019 #32
About this much: trof Jul 2019 #33
after 2016 none nt doc03 Jul 2019 #34
I don't have any faith in any people. CousinIT Jul 2019 #35
the ascent of mankind is nothing less than remarkable. a handful have fucked it up Kurt V. Jul 2019 #39
The human race is destroying itself. It's destroying the only planet it depends on for life. CousinIT Jul 2019 #44
And so damn many still can't comprehend WTF is going on. It's both frightening and amazing. RKP5637 Jul 2019 #54
Imagine being a climate scientist right now. They're suffering bereavement and depression. . . CousinIT Jul 2019 #68
I'm stunned at the ignorance!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #69
as much as I ever did... stillcool Jul 2019 #36
America is stronger than Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Jul 2019 #37
I think most Americans are decent, kind, and want to help their fellow man... VarryOn Jul 2019 #38
not much.... mike_c Jul 2019 #43
To do what? nt Hotler Jul 2019 #45
Life is good, people not so much, and that goes for the American people as well. elocs Jul 2019 #46
A little over a third are deplorable. hunter Jul 2019 #47
Not much BECAUSE of prevalent propaganda methods; it's shocking what repugs have done; elleng Jul 2019 #53
The GOP should be an experiment contained in a cage. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #56
Too damn late. elleng Jul 2019 #58
Someone forgot the damn cage lock! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #64
Not as much as I used to. I think a great many of them are nuts. redstatebluegirl Jul 2019 #55
A lot of people call themselves Christians. It seems few actually are. LuvLoogie Jul 2019 #57
this much larwdem Jul 2019 #62
trumps base Peace06 Jul 2019 #63
Anyone remember the movie "The Mist"? NickB79 Jul 2019 #66
Not much. mnhtnbb Jul 2019 #67

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
22. Too bad so many are blind
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:18 PM
Jul 2019

Voting for Trump is not in the best interests of the MAGA morons. Even rich assholes who experience short term profits are likely cutting their long term throats.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
4. As I think it was Winston Churchill once said ... something like ... Americans are known for doing
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:30 PM
Jul 2019

everything the wrong way until they finally get it right.

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
9. The real quote is slightly less complimentary
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jul 2019

Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities.

Although there is little evidence that he actually said it.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
8. It depends on the day.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jul 2019

That being said, I was moved so deeply and my faith restored by the folks in MN when they welcomed home their Congresswoman Ilhan Omar....

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
11. Forget America for a moment.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:01 PM
Jul 2019

Given what's going on in the world I have little faith in humanity as a whole.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
48. Amazing isn't it. One little ball of spinning dirt and people trying to kill each other off or
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:31 PM
Jul 2019

at minimal making other peoples lives miserable. It's always been a total WTF to me ever since a little kid

Coventina

(27,118 posts)
12. collectively? zero. I have faith in some individuals, but the mass
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:09 PM
Jul 2019

stupidity, even of well-meaning people, will doom us.

dwayneb

(768 posts)
14. It's not just Americans
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jul 2019

Just look at what the world did to itself in the 20th Century. Nearly, 100,000,000 people died in the world wars; in fact nearly 3% of the world population died in WWII. A mere 75 years ago.

Remember that Lou Reed song?

"You can depend on the worst always happening
you need a busload of faith to get by..."



Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
50. Amen.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:34 PM
Jul 2019

Nationalism is rearing its ugly and destructive head all over but especially in the western world .
.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
15. The majority of Americans are sane people, but gullible.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:04 PM
Jul 2019

DT hit on a lot of sore spots during his campaign like bringing jobs back , new health care that will be better & cheaper, sealing the boarders, etc. They decided to give him a try.

After the election, lots of 'em realized those were all LIES!

There are still some supporters, (his base), but he's lost a lot of voters who now realize now it was BS.

I believe he's got about 35% who won't leave him for any reason, but there was enough losses that he won't get reelected. It's hard to believe that, but his 35% are VERY LOUD and make us feel there's more of them.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
49. Yep, exceptionally naive and gullible ... falling for all of the hucksters lies. tRump is bad
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:34 PM
Jul 2019

enough, but what is really disturbing is how so many can be persuaded to vote and taken in by such a cheap con artist.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
61. And to really bring you down..........
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:46 PM
Jul 2019

read some of the responses to the Repug congressmen who have not shown any negative response to IQ45's latest rants about 4 Americans:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=235996

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
65. Absolutely incredible. Next, they will topple the Statue of Liberty. So many flaming assholes! n/t
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:25 AM
Jul 2019

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
17. 50%
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jul 2019

Which is why I believe that we have a severe chance of splitting in two once Trump leaves office by any means other than natural death.

MaryMagdaline

(6,854 posts)
18. Zero
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:57 PM
Jul 2019

Whatever power we have is diluted by EC, gerrymandering, lobbying, dark money and filibuster

1/3 power means nothing

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
23. IQ
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jul 2019

is not indicative of a good heart and moral compass... intelligent people can be conniving and manipulative

 

Everyman Jackal

(271 posts)
25. I have very little faith in Americans about 10%
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:45 PM
Jul 2019

It really doesn't matter because I believe humans will almost reach extinction in less than 100 years. There will be some humans left since I believe humans have a will to survive and the brains to do it in small numbers.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
52. Sadly, this is quite true. I seriously don't believe humanity will have a long track record
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:38 PM
Jul 2019

for existence unless a lot of people wake the F up and get their act together for survival of the species and the planet.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
26. i don't believe in sin , i don't believe in virtue but only what people do.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:52 PM
Jul 2019

this line from the grapes of wrath has shaped my world view.

Polly Hennessey

(6,796 posts)
28. 40 percent are idiots.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:58 PM
Jul 2019

20 percent verge on idiocy. Good grief, it sounds hopeless. Still I remain optimistic. We did have Obama. That gives me some hope.

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
29. Look, everyone's...everyone's...Mind is comprised of brain energy and soul energy. That's why
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:59 PM
Jul 2019

Psychics can deliver precise, arcane information by speaking to a deceased's, still-alive-after-death Mind. Anyway, while the brain will do whatever it takes to survive and satisfy bodily cravings, the soul will direct the Mind towards spiritual values like generosity, compassion, kindness, brotherhood.

For reasons I won't go into here, on any day our earth population will be composed of people whose souls vary in spirit value from the size of a mustard seed to huge. The mustard seeds don't have enough soul energy to overcome brain desires. They live for money, sex, power, food, status.The only things that exist to them are physical. The great souls are naturally considerate of others...the boy who poses with shelter animals to help them be adopted, the white girl or boy who says their best friend of another race is their twin, the kid who collects coats or backpacks for poor children.

As long as there is soul, there is hope for us. All but the mustard seeds will respond to examples or leadership by great soul. By the way, the utmost heroism...sacrificing oneself for others...is all-soul behavior. One cannot think oneself into that level of action. And, that is beyond religion.

Right now, there are more soul-conscious people than not, according to polls. The GOP has disintegrated to the anti-soul level. Segregationist, racist, homophobic, money loving, intolerant, exclusive, xenophobic. If you look at a poll, see the percentage for democrats. They're the ones nowadays displaying soul values.

NOT proselytizing!!!! Everyone entitled to his own thloughts!

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
30. I'll get back at you after November 3rd 2020
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:05 PM
Jul 2019

Hopefully my answer is 100%

Edit to answer question: Right now its at 60% (based on 2018 election and the send her back backlash)

Initech

(100,070 posts)
31. After the shit we've been through with this administration...
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:10 PM
Jul 2019

And the fucking assholes who still support this monster and everything he's doing, slim to nil.

CousinIT

(9,243 posts)
44. The human race is destroying itself. It's destroying the only planet it depends on for life.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:33 PM
Jul 2019

And with that, itself.

Pretty stupid.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
54. And so damn many still can't comprehend WTF is going on. It's both frightening and amazing.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:40 PM
Jul 2019

A perpetual WTF.

CousinIT

(9,243 posts)
68. Imagine being a climate scientist right now. They're suffering bereavement and depression. . .
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 06:11 PM
Jul 2019
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2019/07/weight-of-the-world-climate-change-scientist-grief/

It’s the End of the World as They Know It
The distinct burden of being a climate scientis
t

On election night 2016, Kim Cobb, a professor at the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Tech, was on Christmas Island, the world’s largest ring-shaped coral reef atoll, about 1,300 miles south of Hawaii. A climate scientist, she was collecting coral skeletons to produce estimates of past ocean temperatures. She had been taking these sorts of research trips for two decades, and over recent years she had witnessed about 85 percent of the island’s reef system perish due to rising ocean temperatures. “I was diving with tears in my eyes,” she recalls.

In a row house made of cinder blocks on the tiny island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, she monitored the American election results, using a satellite uplink that took several minutes to load a page. When she saw Donald Trump’s victory, she felt shock and soon descended into severe depression. “I had the firm belief that Washington would act on climate change and would be acting soon,” the 44-year-old Cobb says. “When Trump was elected, it came crashing down.” . . .


And the Trump Cult and even most Democrats (politicians and voters) just deny it's happening. ALL of them. Even Tom Perez - head of the DNC refuses to allow a debate dedicated to climate change. AS IF IT'S NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH.

Duh.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
36. as much as I ever did...
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:24 PM
Jul 2019

people are people. Since reading the Mueller Report, I question everything I read. It keeps me sane, and allows me to live life.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
38. I think most Americans are decent, kind, and want to help their fellow man...
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:34 PM
Jul 2019

when politics arent involved. I saw a couple examples on a flight this week. An elderly Hispanic lady couldnt get her carry-on lifted high enough to get it in the overhead. Four different men of varying ages and ethnic groups worked to help her. And one man made a point to get it out at the end of the flight.

Then, our fight was about 45 minutes landing in Chicago. The flight attendent asked those who had time to remain seated so those with tight connections could more quickly deboard. I thought to myself, "Yeah, right. That'll happen!" You know what? It did!

To be sure, these were small examples, but still indicative of good people.

I dont think it would have been the case if everyone had bottoms on their shirts labeling their political preferences.

I catch myself intensely observing one-on-one interactions when I know the participants are strangers to one another. The vast majority are cordial and positive. I dont think that would be the case if political affiliations were conspicuous. For example, MAGA hats would be detrimental to interactions.

All that said, I believe I van put my faith in most Americans. I'll say 75%.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
43. not much....
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:14 PM
Jul 2019

Unfortunately, I tend to read the comments addressing online news stories. Nothing will erode confidence in humanity faster.

elocs

(22,573 posts)
46. Life is good, people not so much, and that goes for the American people as well.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:44 PM
Jul 2019

But then I'm a schizoid and not a people person which is why I like online forums where I only need to deal with words on the screen rather than up close and personal with people.
I have faith in the American people to support their tribe and hate the opposite one. We do it here but then we're right, or is that left?

elleng

(130,895 posts)
53. Not much BECAUSE of prevalent propaganda methods; it's shocking what repugs have done;
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:39 PM
Jul 2019

wrecked public education, #1.

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
57. A lot of people call themselves Christians. It seems few actually are.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:50 PM
Jul 2019

I think a similar thing can be said of Americans. Too many of us are too passive, or really do not care enough about the plight of the powerless, or care enough to help ourselves.

Peace06

(248 posts)
63. trumps base
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:52 AM
Jul 2019


I am no therapist, but I believe this group of people have never been interested in politics until trump. I believe they felt left out of the mainstream until they heard trump. They finally feel that they are a part of something important and that they make a difference. This is like a drug to them. Somebody is finally on their side. They will not willingly give up something that makes them feel so important. However misguided they are, if someone could make them feel as included and important as trump does, it could possibly break through. This is why they dont care what he does as long as he makes them feel included. We must find a way to convince them. I dont know what that would be, but surely some expert knows.






mnhtnbb

(31,388 posts)
67. Not much.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:43 AM
Jul 2019

It seems 2 out of 5 people support the traitorous lying racist misogynist sack of $hit occupying the Oval Office. I think about that whenever I'm out walking and passing people on the street. 40% support that narcissistic a$$hole who is dismantling our government. Separating families at the border. Locking children in cages. Denying pediatricians access to treat those kids. Encouraging his supporters to demand duly elected Congressional Representatives be deported because they oppose him and his policies. It's mind blowing. Every 2 out of 5 people support this $hit!

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