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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 05:51 PM Jul 2019

Pennsylvania school district turns down offer to pay off student lunch debts

Todd Carmichael, the Philadelphia-based CEO of La Colombe coffee, offered to write a check for $22,467.76 to clear the school-lunch debt of a group of children whose school district was threatening to put them in foster care if their parents didn’t pay up.
The Wyoming Valley West school board president Joseph Mazur said no to Carmichael.

Carmichael, a self-described activist against the policies of President Trump and his administration, has been jailed in the past for causes he cares about. He supports a $15 per hour minimum wage and better state funding of Pennsylvania public schools, and has come out against tax breaks for corporations. But the Wyoming Valley West situation really touched a nerve, he said in a phone interview Tuesday.

Carmichael had Aren Platt, a La Colombe consultant, reach out to the Wyoming Valley West School District attorney over the weekend, but got no response. Next, efforts were made to reach the school superintendent. Finally, Platt found a home phone number for school board president Joseph Mazur and reached him on Monday. He made the no-strings attached offer and said Carmichael didn’t necessarily need credit for his actions. Mazur told Platt that he would not accept the offer, Platt said. Mazur said that he believed most of the families who owed money could afford the debt, and that it was their responsibility to pay. “His counter was, these are affluent families who just want to get something for free,” said Platt.

Carmichael said that while “I just don’t like” Mazur, the offer to settle the families’ debt still stands. “Let’s just take care of the problem,” said Carmichael. “Let’s just take care of the kids.”

https://www.inquirer.com/news/school-lunch-debt-foster-care-pennsylvania-todd-carmichael-la-colombe-20190723.html

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Pennsylvania school district turns down offer to pay off student lunch debts (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 OP
"Let's just take care of the problem," said Carmichael. "Let's just take care of the kids." Botany Jul 2019 #1
Likely a Christian republican. Blue_true Jul 2019 #7
64 percent of Wyoming Valley West students live below the poverty line. per the article! riversedge Jul 2019 #10
So it is poor and that school board guy is an asshole. Blue_true Jul 2019 #15
the azz wipe needs to lose his position questionseverything Jul 2019 #23
It isn't about the money; it never was gratuitous Jul 2019 #2
Hey, what good is a title and power if you can't abuse people? Botany Jul 2019 #3
"It's about making poverty a crime" handmade34 Jul 2019 #4
I believe that legally they have to take the money. nt TeamPooka Jul 2019 #5
Fire that administrator now jberryhill Jul 2019 #6
yep, administrator needs to get the boot. I have never heard of a school refusing donations like yaesu Jul 2019 #13
just do it, gauddmmint onethatcares Jul 2019 #8
*person. The word you were looking for was "person". eggplant Jul 2019 #16
you're correct onethatcares Jul 2019 #18
If you edit your post, I'll delete my replies. eggplant Jul 2019 #22
"64 percent of Wyoming Valley West students live below the poverty line. "............ riversedge Jul 2019 #9
I likewise find it hard to believe that they can PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #11
How would you like to be a taxpayer there? jberryhill Jul 2019 #14
This school Penn Voter Jul 2019 #12
"In the first place, God made idiots." Yeehah Jul 2019 #17
Fantastic BunnyMcGee Jul 2019 #19
Boot straps or Foster Care! JDC Jul 2019 #20
It's way past time to quit charging for school lunches ThoughtCriminal Jul 2019 #21
some parents wouldn't want to take the free lunch questionseverything Jul 2019 #24

Botany

(70,524 posts)
1. "Let's just take care of the problem," said Carmichael. "Let's just take care of the kids."
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jul 2019


I betya school board president Joseph Mazur, is a "Christian" too.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Likely a Christian republican.
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 06:18 PM
Jul 2019

I think that he should accepted the offer, zeroed the debt then brought the parent in for a sit-down.

Does anyone from PA know much about that county? Is it "affluent" like the school board prick claimed?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. So it is poor and that school board guy is an asshole.
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 07:32 PM
Jul 2019

One article said that the whole district would qualify for free lunch next year, that does not happen in "affluent" districts. Those good folks are getting a taste of what electing republicans bring about.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
23. the azz wipe needs to lose his position
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:11 PM
Jul 2019

where the heck are the rules about WHO pays the kids lunch bills?

so if grandma or grandpa write a check for the lunches or a helpful stranger, what's the difference?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. It isn't about the money; it never was
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jul 2019

It's about making poverty a crime, and threatening a helpless and vulnerable segment of the population.

Botany

(70,524 posts)
3. Hey, what good is a title and power if you can't abuse people?
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 05:59 PM
Jul 2019

Mr. Carmichael offer could have a ripple effect through out the school district
and the community and Mr. Carmichael might get some future employees out
of the deal too.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. Fire that administrator now
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 06:16 PM
Jul 2019

You have a red number in your book. Someone offers to pay that. Wtf do you care where the money comes from?

It is completely irresponsible not to take that money.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
13. yep, administrator needs to get the boot. I have never heard of a school refusing donations like
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 07:17 PM
Jul 2019

that and it happens quite often.

onethatcares

(16,174 posts)
8. just do it, gauddmmint
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 06:28 PM
Jul 2019

walk into the office, hand the woman/man/trans behind the counter a check or money order. State "this is to be used to pay the owed lunch debts", walk out. go away, don't speak about it, don't have media there.

Just do it.

riversedge

(70,253 posts)
9. "64 percent of Wyoming Valley West students live below the poverty line. "............
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jul 2019

The school board president is a LIAR. Another bad example for kids-just like trump!!




.......

“His counter was, ‘These are affluent families who just want to get something for free,’” said Platt. “This wasn’t ever about repayment of a debt. It was about shaming people.”

Carmichael agreed that the district is less concerned with its $22,000 and more concerned about humiliating people who struggle.

“I don’t know why anyone would want to do that,” said Carmichael, “to shame them because they can’t pay for mac and cheese.”

According to the Pennsylvania Department of Education, 64 percent of Wyoming Valley West students live below the poverty line. Just over 4,500 students are enrolled in the school system.

Messages left for Mazur and other school district officials were not returned.

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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. How would you like to be a taxpayer there?
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 07:20 PM
Jul 2019

Fuck the lunches. This guy is intent on burning taxpayers’ money whether they have kids or not.

Penn Voter

(247 posts)
12. This school
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jul 2019

is located in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. It is not a wealthy county. However, I believe that the majority of the county voters voted for Trump in 2016. I would bet that Mazur was one of them.

JDC

(10,130 posts)
20. Boot straps or Foster Care!
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 08:28 PM
Jul 2019

Clearly this man's judgement of others is more important than the debt itself. He should be fired.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
21. It's way past time to quit charging for school lunches
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 09:12 PM
Jul 2019

Sorry, I don't have any solid numbers, but we waste a HUGE amount of money, staff time, and parent time with a mountain of paperwork determining which students are eligible for free or reduced-price lunches. I'm fairly certain the cost of all this paperwork vastly exceeds the cost of simply feeding all the children. Eliminating lunch fees would also remove the stigma for the kids, improve classroom performance and probably improve classroom behavior.

Quit worrying about some students getting free lunches that their parents might be able to afford. This is public education. Making sure no child goes hungry is way more important than whatever twisted morality says children should be punished because their parent could not afford the lunches or forgot to take care of it. These are the same kind of "Adults" who think it's okay to put children in cages.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
24. some parents wouldn't want to take the free lunch
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jul 2019

that would be easy to fix.....if you sign up for free lunch it is free, if you don't you can still pay

I think the same should go for food stamps

for every dollar the govt spends on fs the gdp is boosted by 1.74...that is a great invest ment

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