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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow DOES Chump win?
https://www.270towin.com/maps/ljwV2The states we have to worry about are pretty clustered and demographically similar WI PA MI pretty much get us there..
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,899 posts)While issues are important and voters should be educated enough about them, the question is...What kind of country do we want for the next generations to live in?
One where Overt racism, lawlessness, concentrated wealth among the few, disregard for the rule of law and the US Constitution, suspension of Constitutional rights, Civil Rights, etc? A country where principles and values no longer mean anything?
I am reminded of the segments on the MSNBC shows that featured Tim Wise, a pundit instrumental in making sure KKK Grand Wizard David Duke never held any political office. Wise says that Democrats have to stop being members of the Debate Team and become the Cheerleading Squad in standing up for Principles and Values that make this country the beacon on the Hill to the rest of the world. Wise says that we should indeed care about the issues, but care even more for the soul of this country and the direction it is currently going in. Make it personal and Democrats win.
Bettie
(16,151 posts)They need to make sure that even the lowest information voter, the most unaware of politics become hyper aware of who and what this guy and his party are.
They need to be hit in the face every day with the simple fact that The Republican Party and it's current leader are, in fact, white supremacists (and that is putting it in the kindest, mildest terms possible).
Mike Nelson
(9,990 posts)
just like GWB.
OnDoutside
(19,987 posts)bombing attempt,
"You have to be lucky every time, we only have to be lucky once"
And that's how I view the whole Trump/Barr/GOP blocking of the truth. Trump has been lucky so far, but he needs to be lucky every time.
shraby
(21,946 posts)They will get him over the top in states that carry enough electoral votes.
His motto is:
One way or another
I'm gonna gitcha gitcha gitcha one way or another.
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)that way and has NO chance to win in 2020 if we all get off our asses and vote and not play the ideological purity games that cost democrats and america bigtime in 2000 and 2016
brooklynite
(95,006 posts)1. Democrats don't focus on issues that voters in WI, MI, PA care about.
2. Democrats DO focus on Trump's behavior, Impeachment, etc.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)and people who should have known better voted third Party.
FL and NC as well as some other States are also suspect.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Too many Democratic voters sat on their hands and did not vote. They voted in 2018 and we won.
Blaming it on Russia or cheating when we did not get our vote out invites the same behavior in the future.
When we turn out our voters we win.
brooklynite
(95,006 posts)Reality is refreshing.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)how nice.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)edhopper
(33,667 posts)how do you think they stole WI and MI and FL and NC and GA last year?
brooklynite
(95,006 posts)...but I don't see it as resulting in "stealing" the election. We've won elections before when Republicans attempted to suppress voting. We lost this election largely because the Clinton campaign made tactical campaign errors based on a flawed strategic assumption that voters who supported Obama could be relied upon to support Clinton. And I based that assessment on talking to battleground State Party Chairs and my own experience on the ground in Ohio.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)to me that is election theft. That seems to be the case in MI and WI. (and other States as well, Ohio is always suspect)
I am tired of accepting that we have to win by 5% or 10% just to break even.
Turin_C3PO
(14,151 posts)disagrees with you. He says the Dems win by making this a referendum on Trumps racism. That we need to paint him as a black-souled white supremacist. He also says we will never win by acting like a debating team, that we need to act more like the cheerleader squad. I wish I had the link, he makes very persuasive arguments.
brooklynite
(95,006 posts)He's entitled to his opinion; my opinion is informed by what actual winning candidates have told me that actual voters in competitive districts care about.
pwb
(11,318 posts)Pass.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)He takes what he wants by lying, cheating and scheming, with a lot of help.
That's not winning.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Our candidates will focus on voters in WI, MI, PA. I doubt he will get them again. Unless he has "help"